Jack River

When this☝️is holistically understood, so is..?

Conflict cannot modify itself out of itself. Freedom first. Understand conflict first. Until there is a holistic understanding of conflict, conflict will continue to fix/project it’s own limitation in time. Effort=conflict..and conflict is thought transcending it’s own limit perpetually. This is food for self/ego.

Effort is an ingrained pattern/process of self. Any movement to be other than what is the case implies effort/resistance. Does effort end effort? Does moving in the groove of resistance put an end to resistance?

Who am I/what are you, falls away. That question/answer is all part of the veil of reality.

Seeking questions/answers is itself a preventing/distorter of what-is. It is in fact distraction/resistance. Direct perception/insight, which is undivided action into this will bring about the fundamental freedom/silence to observe what-is.

Seems to come from a place of isolation/alienation. Thought entering into the psychological field trying to create an opposite out of that state of isolation/alienation.

Can we use thought when and where is it necessary? To act on behalf of ones knowledge/experience for technological/functional/practical purposes.. But psychologically does knowledge/experience have a place? To me ego is the reactionary/resistant and compulsive movement of thought habitually/mechanically transcending it’s own limit. Acting out of confusion/conflict/duality.

Spiritual evolution...quit it, I just woke up. To early here for monkey business.

The real question is can one live without psychological effort.

Sounds like control/concentration.

@SoonHei is a cool dude?

‘the obvious’ I spoke of was referring to the what is of reality. The what is that we perpetually resist/escape. When that what-is is not escaped it dissolves and a whole other WHAT IS is revealed. The ending of time

What process?

@SoonHei as long as we move within the field of reality we continue to be limited by that very field. I would bring awareness to that field with all its subtle distortions.

@SoonHeistepping out of the river will be obvious fosho. Energy is tremendous.

It may be seen that the ‘I am’ state is be-ing and seems to be an ending to conflict(subject-object divison) seen with holistic insight.. As awareness(action of truth) seens to shine light on that of reality and no longer reacts positively/negatively to that field. The ground of be-ing or non-be-ing is the “ending”. This to me is a very sacred non-state/literal ending of experience. In that ‘no-thing-ness’ seems to be dependent upon awareness (undivided action that brings about a cessation to positive/negative reaction(thought-reality). It will be quite obvious though... ‘your’ head literally falls off. The realm of pure mystery

To start any inquiry/investigation attached to ones knowledge/experience-memory is indeed to block oneself from that exploration. Especially with regards to relationship.

Freedom first. Stillness/ no-thing-ness is not dependent upon all the things of reality. Every step taken in the field of reality is conditioned(dependent upon things). From here we continue to feed the loop of time. We employ time to gradually/progressively by process try and end that movement implicitly and unconsciously moving towards other conditions. Every step we take within the field of reality is a perpetuation of very subtle additions to the content of conciousness. Even so much as to turn no-thing-ness into a “thing”. There is no in and out. No now you see it now you don’t. No acclimating. There is seeing/action/no-thing-ness, or there is not. There will be No questions remaining in that silence. Questions are born out of the field of reality (things) themselves. Freedom first dude. Which means order to see what-is. And does cultivation/effort/time/becoming(a reality full of the ‘thingifying’ built and sustained by conditions) end that same movement and structure of that reality? When we see that there is no thing we can do actually/literally, there is a literal stepping out of the field of time(things-reality). To put that reality in its right place.

I am a beginner myself. But there was no progression. The timeless perception was instantaneous. There were no stages. No method. And when identification ceased that meant/means that the being of something/nothing/everything was out..All of that is of time/the past. Ground of being or Headlessness doesn’t identify.

I would just attend more to Self Knowledge. This is all revealed by understanding the self/thought and its relationship to reality. This is right there in yourself. Book of you.

If something is worth while or not is entirely dependent upon “your” or the past(thought-time). Your depending on a tool that operates as measure. When we depend on measure to maintain a sense of psychological security/certainty/permanence, thought is then transcending it’s own inherent limits and therefore perpetuating its own conflict. Said simply..you may still see yourself as an independent entity that stands outside its own construction of reality.

Isn’t it obvious...What-is

@SoonHei what is the initiator of monkey business(thought chatter-time bound movement)? That would be a good think to consider fosho.

I mean thought transcends its own limit by looking to thought (concepts and listening to satsangs on YouTube rupert, adyashanti, fred davis, mooji, leo etc.) to bring about silence to its own movement. Because that movement of authority which involves your own as well, is what brings about reaction/response of thought/time itself. Good that you caught it. But the reaction/response is itself a happening. Yeah it’s the main issue with stepping out of that field.

Fosho Concentration and that particular movement are one and the same..(of time).