Jack River

@Faceless thanks man. I have really Given all my attention to this. My friends say they really see a difference in me. I’m am really appreciating life now man. Conflict is so low now dude.

Having a reward in mind like enlightenment and using a technique called do noting to get there seems pretty crazy to me. And I am a kinda crazy and a dummy. I have friends who meditate before a surf comp. but they meditate to concentrate or focus. Visualize and conquer a goal.

Your not seeing the big picture dude. Until all you are psychologically secure you will keep searching. This will prevent because you are looking in time for your arriving. Thought is pursing a reward in the future. That is the problem.

Also the way I see it if your are trying to get somewhere like your idea of enlightenment, you are escaping what is and trying to attain a goal that you made. The motive to reach enlightenment is what prevents it. If we pursue we strengthen the illusion. Thregthen a doing.

That’s not true brah. That is just what traditional authority says to do. Thought likes to conform to ways or strategies to end itself. It is not actually needed at all.

There he is again. Nice dude

That’s awesome!

@Privet I have been on a daily basis observing inward movement of myself. It seems to be a reaction of choosing. It happens to you because you choose. Only you are not sure that you choose. We choose without noticing it seems like.

Yeah chimpanzee really seem to have somewhat of a psyche.

@Feel Good ?he is gone?

I asked faceless that myself. He said because we think abstractly. We are not willing to take responsibility for ourselves. We say we are going to bring god to man but we don’t have an actual relationship ourselves. And in that we divide everything up. We don’t see that we are society and society is us. The inward and the outward are the same. And then we refused to have a relationship with the fact. We see through the eye of division. This causes fragmentation. So we cannot solve such large relationship problems. I think thats right dudes.

@InfinitePotential NICE!!!. I will try it out.

I think facing fear solves all these problems. Lately I have been trying to keep notice of all the subtle fear that arises during my day. There is so many types of fear and it’s good to be able to notice certain thoughts as being fear and not thinking they are somthing different. Anyway I’m doing my best. Good luck dudes

Droppin bombs

Thats Awesome. You’re RAD brah!!

Fosho. I do that after a long day out on the water. Listen to the water segals. Of course a one hitter quiter right before

I feel ya there. Fantasy and imagination screws me all the time. It has got better being aware of that. But sometimes I forget. Good luck brah.

Yeah me too

@Faceless went into this a little with me couple days ago. Has to do with the image we formed from the past.

@MrDmitriiV i feel ya mannice post. I like this parts

@Feel Good got a couple friends who do that kind of thing as well. They are also scared lil doggy’s. Even more than me.

I’m not looking to know BEing. You keep saying that. Lol we are not saying that

Nah brah that’s your assumption. Im just looking to understand fear.

What I experienced in the water about a month ago was similar to one of those psychedelic experiences in the sense that time seemed to stop minus the weird visuals and crazy intense fear. At least when I try to look back. There was no fear at the time of all this. There is a slight remembering of the most energetic free feeling I have never had before. That’s all I can say about it. This I think this is what faceless means by somehow not recollecting-recording in a span of time. I also slightly remember this feeling as if I was gone for the picture and I was part of the water sorrojndings. This is why I have really takin to this pointer he is talking about. Also @Nahm has mentioned this veil of experience stuff as well. I see somthing here myself.