Jack River

Nice man! Yeah, and fear reacting to fear because it thinks it is separate from fear. Its really all coming together dude????

Fosho! clinging to our ideas or bias because it makes us feel better or more safe psychologically. And that causes more and more illusions. And we get caught in them. Cling to the illusion. Then we create more.

I know what you mean. That why I watch that movement carefully. But I dont know about soul or whatever. And I am aware that thought gets a sense of security from that idea. An illusion at work.

I just look at the fact that is actually observable in myself. Soul talk or true self is to escape the fact. You see what I mean dude? I dknt know what vipasna is?

I feel ya there I think for me it’s better to stick with what we can see directly in ourselves. Then when that is clear we can maybe go further. Soul or higher self sets up the trap of making abstraction and the chasing that. But I know what you mean dude. This has recently hit me like a sack of potatoes

I don't know what you mean by soul. What does it take for this intuition to happen?

Right on brah!!????

I use to think intuition was not based on emotion or reaction . I don’t think that anymore. It still seems to be the me acting and choosing. Psychological action.

@Ingit Do we act on the intuition?

Isnt intuition basically desire ? Me and my buddy went into this other day. I brought it up to him and he said desire and identifacation go together.

Self perpetuation ? I see it dudes

@MiracleMan understanding all these as being one movement has really allowed for awasome awareness man. Seriously a miracle dude.

Nice. BECOMING is big dudes. Its probably the root of all conflict. Once you see it so clear there is no going back.

See the endless game trying to maintain psychological security dudes. I smoked a lot before and after surfing. Since I have been watching fear and not reacting to it I have been able to totally stop smoking. It’s been 2weeks now. Actually even other habits seem to have lost there strength.

I know man i started watching K and then moved to tolle because I am kinda dumb lol. I think Tolle does not go as deep as K. Then went back to K, now I learn better from faceless and robdl. I bookmark there posts. Crazy thing is I have been doing this way longer than faceless. It was difficult for me, but now I am getting it.

I have been doing this for a long time man. Going on 8 years now with Krishnamurti, and tolle. But nothing really made sense until I read yours and robdl’s posts-messages. You guys rock

This is what I spend my day being aware of. It seems to mask itself though. That’s why it’s good to know when fear is moving.

This is what I have been putting my energy into lately. Drastic change in my life. Thanks brah.

Both seem like mind tricks to me. When it comes down to it a chasing a goal and increasing focus seem to be the same thing. At least I see that dudes.

Nah, just crazy expensive for the parents

There can be love when i am caught in my own fears. I don’t see it

When I was young my parents sent me to a few psychologist. I didn’t like rules structure and all that. I was always nice to people. Never really angry or anything. Just never have been into college and career stuff. Anyway the psychologists were always in a hurry to diagnose me as somthing. Even as a youngster I was aware that they didn’t actually know what they were taking about. Instead of looking for some diagnosis they should have seen the simple fact that I just didn’t like to play by the rules

You got that right dude

For sure man. It’s constantly doing this. Even when we least expect it.

@Feel Good I agree man. I am very grateful for these guys. I went into this to live without all the drama. So far it’s been quick and effective. Just watching fear in movement and knowing when I am adding to it really has helped.