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Hehe ? I love to sleep when I’m tired and be tired when I sleep...

They say tiredness is an excellent avoidance technique

Why do we worry? What are we so concerned about? What are we attached to? What are we seeking? Why do we believe anyone else can give us what we ourselves must realize? What do we think we are protecting?

@zeroISinfinity Sounds like you don’t like your “job” very much being human...

More self love and understanding will equate to more authentic love toward others. Self judgement and shame are huge obstacles for us Also letting go of any ideal behaviors of how love is supposed to look. We have to be present even when we react, we have to be accepting of our own flaws, imperfections and bad tendencies. We can be aware and let go of our expectations and judgments. The only place authentic love is possible is NOW and so I think you may like @Faceless thread on “no way, as way to headlessness” as well as Ivankiss threads on love, for they serve as a good reminder of the non dual expressions of love through us

@themovement Sorry i don't typically watch much of elliot hulse anymore, but he was what drew me into personal development some 5-7 years ago. He's still clinging to belief systems to stay grounded, so be aware that just because i say he's a good guy with a lot of book smarts, doesn't mean his opinions or anyone else's for that matter, should be taken as the bible. He's simply exploring new territory for himself, looking into things he once overlooked but still unable to break through his own identity. IMO of course

Elliot is a great guy and has a lot of wisdom even though he’s not quite as developed in a lot of areas as others regarding personal development, he is a respectable fella practicing radical open mindedness. I think his back ground and personality type just makes it tough

damn haha @jbram2002 you think you know it all before you even watch the video! Things must be going well man. Perhaps carry your daughter to her room after she falls...no worries if she wakes up just tel her your objective. Watch the video before we discuss more as I think it may expand the discussion...sometimes this stuff just doesn’t resonate with us so don’t feel bad if there’s no more but I can share stuff too if you’re ending up interested

@Hansu i didn’t make it clear, awareness and sitting in that zombie mode where you no longer act on the urges but let them surface fizzle and resurface (sometimes) what’s most important is figuring out what void they are filling in your life...having addictions is very common and most have some just to cope with certain thought patterns involving needs they cannot fulfill

I he’s probably referring to is the fact that you mentioned the Wim Hof method in your post, awesome job btw heres a short breathing exercise for anyone who might like to try, I followed the video, did one round and it felt pretty good

@mandyjw quick hold my “belief” I’ll do a quick check to look for impurities... no belief, no self, no impurities. There’s simply no “I” that can live this way... edit: also the trouble is figuring out the subconscious beliefs

Can he ever really know? Teal said it’s a never ending process of self love @Truth AddictI appreciate your friendship, I don’t have many. If I were to be banned, If I was to die, this would be a gift from the gods ?

@Truth Addict sorry man hope I didn’t trigger you, only teasing, as well as posting an example of a “low quality” post, that may do more harm than good. I do seem to remember Leo saying how hesitant he was in making a forum to begin with...maybe it was in the cults vid

Enough of this tomfoolery here Truth...one more outburst and I’ll have you held in contempt! i like what you’re saying, that this sort of moderating is born out of fear (from Leo) as he doesn’t wish to be overthrown or derailed and seeks to control the masses to eliminate suffering, which might have the opposite effect so by now I may possibly be talking out of my ass and so Id like to say thanks for reading! ?

@Truth Addict that’s a belief my friend but this is real life where all beliefs are relative. We all come from somewhere but most of us can’t see things from nowhere

@Truth Addict there isn’t always enough information to make any sort of judgement but if someone’s serious about feeling suicidal and seeking the help of the forum then they would post in the appropriate section and ‘ask for help’ always much much more happening underneath the surface, simply taking our first reaction isn’t always a good idea especially if we are not in the best state to begin with And you are totally right in that we can call out anyone, mods and even Leo if we feel like they are behaving untrustworthy

I remember the first thread I posted and it got locked immediately, and I was given 3 points of ⚠️ I was baffled at the time but let it go relatively easily. The thread was for discussion on the topic of a YouTube video about male genital mutilation or circumcision the mod saw it to be pornographic material ?

You can’t know what someone is actually experiencing, the mods are humans like us and they do their best like Leo. We also can’t know what’s going through their heads either ? The real question is why do you feel overly concerned? Maybe you haven’t taken into account, enough perspectives, or maybe hold bias

@zeroISinfinity well this guy did it for 5 years and shares his experience as he shares, you cannot run away from ego, it will be there as a monk or not. Always a lot good to come with any movement

step 1: admit to addiction step 2: understand the pupose your addiction serves, having self love, understanding your shame and curiosity as to why you have developed the addictions step 3: awareness and shadow work, Awareness is curative on its own but without shadow work and action toward self love, addictions will return step 4: take action to work on accountability and steps to creating a life you desire

"stay hungry, stay foolish" steve jobs just now took the time to watch his stanford commencement speech, good stuff! haha

? this is too funny! So why show it love? Could you really even knowingly trick yourself? Maybe the point is to understand it and not try to kill it, for if it is (what is) then it surely must serve a purpose.

I mean the mind wraps around the conceptual ideas and bypasses the experiences needed to full understand someone's interpretations of insight or wisdom. People begin to operate out of assumptions and presupposed truths which may create even more deconstruction needed to find Truth

the question is why do you wish not to live an amazing life? Just because you aren't attached to things doesn't mean they arent actually happening. your devil has created an escape out of the absolute "perspective". All the devils are you...don't let your devil fool you into thinking otherwise. Find unity with others and also unity with yourself. You can be simultaneously dependent and independent on other people and things in your life and shine the light on your weaknesses to create love for yourself. It will not be easy but it IS choiceless

but such a key might in fact discourage people from doing the work...hahaha