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You can’t see a truth without first adopting the foundation it was built upon, this often requires a lot of research to identify, so yeah perhaps there are ulterior motives for a self image. Many sides/conclusions to coins, no objective truth, how many sides do you wish to see? There’s always something (premise) to every theory, whether it’s what’s actual or not.

@Consept ehh thanks I guess for the video. I find it hard to listen to a brainwashed doctor, trained in a closed-system focusing primarily on labeling, efforts, profits, quick fix solutions (treating symptoms), superiority and keeping the public dependent. I was intrigued by his thought on immune boosting, how food allergy is avoided by early exposure yet claiming dirt exposure actually lowers immunity to germs/bacteria. Now I don’t subscribe to the theory of germ causing disease but the focus on fear/separation between us and environment is a recipe for disaster/deception (just what I’ve found to be the case in my experience). The issues lie in the terrain

@Consept speculation is basically like dreams or desires I don’t consider teachers as seekers but as connectors, like maps for our experience My apologies if I projected your attachment, but this stuff requires ‘parts work’, dropping your “I” to take up a new reality where claims could be possible, then building upon it until it’s seen clearly. Faulty logic exists only with a pre-existing belief. There’s nothing wrong with beliefs, just have to be aware of their limitations so there’s no self deception. From one reality (mainstream narrative), theres loads of faulty logic and valueless naysaying, but from another POV there’s a completely new narrative with different perceptions, values, beliefs etc. offering new grounds for consideration It’s not about what makes facts true or false, but how and why they appear to be. That’s what this work is about, to find the system that works best, and remain open to other systems to allow connection

@Consept of course it’s all speculation. I pointed out other potentials because it seems like you are still lookin for some sort of validation or reason to reject conspiracy. For some, like Leo, it’s a waste of time, because that’s how he sees it, but that doesn’t mean he’s right in telling others they would be wasting their time in going down that road, especially in these circumstances. At the end of the day we preach who we are, our expression/purpose/focus, and choose how to communicate/point at Truth. Empowerment/freedom/expansion in however fashion we see fit We are given exactly what we need at all times ??

Does seeing = believing or is seeing = seeing To accept or deny, is the illusion/appearance of Reality, so what fits your personal agenda? Are you satisfied with the Your limitations? @Conseptit’s not so simple to me, the teachers have their audience, image, intention/focus. Maturity and dogma are your limited beliefs. There is no true perfection outside of the Now and understanding resonance is very enlightening Do we have control over our purpose? Or does purpose have control over us?

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All right then you better stay out of what does not concern you. Or I’ll send you more waves ? It’s not the facts that are concerning, but the different perceptions. I’d have thought that would be of interest but I suppose not everyone enjoys to surf

I’d you hadn’t read any concerning facts lately then I’d have to ask where you’re getting them. Who’s facts? Fox and cnn tend to paint completely different pictures for what’s happening, then you look at the mortality rates, false positives, cash incentive diagnoses, doctors crying out/questioning the fear-stained protocols killing people, and finally the scrutiny of the current accepted science of viruses Edit: like honestly why shouldn’t we be questioning the pharma-based modern medicine science used to diagnose and treat illness?

You’re writing people off, lecturing them as if you know better when in fact you are assuming you do (know where they are coming from), so naturally, I’m asking you to consider there is a shadow to the narrative around the beliefs you hold shedding light on another reality. Of course you can’t take my word for it but would you be willing to rethink what you have been led to believe?

@Preety_India even this epidemic offers an abundance of shadow work, personally and collectively. Best to cast beliefs aside for the time being to focus on understanding if you were so inclined. (Just saying )

@Preety_Indiaperhaps it is you that could use a change in thinking

@Vipassana trying to get people to see this truth proves to be an even bigger stressor than simply coping with the mainstream narrative. It’s really a shame and hard to accept when this info seems like it would help others but, really, they’d have to have nothing to lose, and something substantial to gain. Ideally they could see it as an opportunity for taking greater responsibility for their own health but at what stake, the lives of many? Valiant effort anyhow. It’s funny, a fb group I’m in called ‘fruit and sleep’ was literally kicking the people who weren’t willing to dive deep and look at the facts/evidence being shared, contradicting this “great panic” narrative. Like they had no time for people who weren’t open to learning “true health”

sorry off topic. @Natasha Would you be able to assist or explain how I can access messenger on the forum again after it was turned off?

@Zigzag Idiot Hey man I’m staying in Memphis tonight. Let me know if tomorrow works to visit at some point. Can’t seem to figure out how to bring up the Forum messenger on my phone after I deleted it lol

This one cracks me up, much love and respect for him

wow, haven’t gotten through this talk but it is packed with wisdom! enjoy!

Hmm ? honestly I’m just relieved we have someone else to rely on cuz God forbid we might actually have to think for ourselves! This might seem funny but don’t you ever think twice about what has been said on national tv, don’t! Just don’t fuck this up for all humanity! We need to band together and shut up any naysayer conspiracy theorists out there trying to debunk our survival agenda! Thank you ? #trumpisclueless #letsgetthroughthisterm #bill4presidency??

Video really does speak for itself, powerful reflection tool and I can definitely relate when it comes to inner turmoil and conflicts this pandemic has stirred up, even as someone who feels as though I’ve had an intuitive knowing

Hehehe hey don’t forget who creates the requirements for holding specific perspectives/realities

@Consept you have a big heart, I can see it. Love you man ?

@Jacobsrw fear/judgment is trusting people cannot or are not communicating authentically, it seems you may be unwilling to look at certain aspects of yourself here, no? The goal is to see through them, not identify @Consept like I said before I am merely giving you a hard time. You’re here looking at the shit instead exploring the facts that make the shit perspective possible in the first place. If all the facts seem probable or likely but point to an undesirable view then do facts need to be disregarded, or ignored? (Perhaps written off?) We can enjoy our privilege all we want but that doesn’t mean there isn’t ignorance in not asking questions, trying on various lenses and painting a larger view acknowledging the multiple realities which is, IMO, the highest position relatively speaking, even though many may not be capable of this type of expanded attention assume all you want about me but realize they are what they are, yours, and there’s no obligation to change your own view, at least the potential and limitations are apparent

@Jacobsrw great, personally I like to say fuck agreeableness as it entertains separateness Do you feel it’s wrong to assume conspiracists do theIr best to communicate their truth? Can’t please everyone, so it’s their agenda, knowledge, opinions and level of development. To expect anything more or less seems silly really but I suppose agendas aren’t always clear or honest, but that’s just how it is, encouraging personal responsibility of the listener as well

@Jacobsrw the whole point is informed decision making based on the “news” that’s most reliable/relevant right? If someone holds info deeming the media narrative as being inaccurate and potentially dangerous then don’t they have the right to voice their truth despite how it may appear to others? I didn’t ask for your views, only asking if you did the research questioning germ theory, contagion and viruses. The external good/bad focus is a distraction imo, like the virus, so best to accept what is and notice the media’s impact on everything/one and seek accountability and for those who can, to speak out and voice their truth. It’s been unbelievable the behaviors I’ve witnessed going from city to city, state to state, so the resistance offers hope for reuniting the people, at least those who wish to question authority and step out of fear it’s literally expanded conscious politics

@Consept the only reason I’m giving you guys a hard time, especially Jacob is you seem to like to point out the negatives of these theories rather than the positives, it’s like pretending to entertain them while realistically just proving how they are wrong or dangerous, as if the media shouldn’t have the same level of scrutiny. Have you researched viruses and disease/germ theory? @Jacobsrw @Vipassana Never say never, persistence is king (of course im having a little fun right now but it can’t hurt) feels good to be part of the design