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No. Or rather let's put it another way: You can't create an adult without creating childhood. Humanity is like a child right now that's entering puberty. It only seems like hell because we didn't know any better until now. It's possible that we mature and create literal heaven on earth.

Because I posted anyway in here now, I may as well continue Despite all amazing trips, experiencing madness, heaven and insights into Gods nature, one of the greatest lessons for me so far was on the day after a candyflip (LSD+MDMA). I felt God's LOVE and understood how I am - and everyone and everything else is - absolutely perfect and it is absolutely impossible to do anything wrong. That LOVE was so amazing that it brought me to tears over the course of many hours every time I thought about it. Tears just flowed all over my face. The beauty made me completely speechless. Here are the insights and thoughts I noted on that day (translated from German): I'm LOVED to an unimaginable extent I'm LOVED not despite what I am, but precisely because of what I am That which I try to hide from the world out of fear of not being loved and being judged, is exactly what the world needs the most! EVERYONE and EVERYTHING is LOVED to an unimaginable extent – NO EXCEPTIONS I can do absolutely nothing wrong. I'm ALWAYS and ENTIRELY LOVED to an extent that surpasses even my wildest imagination The LOVE of God is of a magnitude that will make you completely speechless. It is full of humour, joy, forgiveness, laughter & warmth My psycho-emotional system can't even grasp the complete extent of that LOVE, because it would be completely obliterated Those tiny peeks into LOVE lead to instant and uncontrollable tears and sobbing LOVE is beyond good and evil and surpasses ANY imagination

What are your kundalini symptoms? You're regularly blissed out but can't really enjoy it? Seems like something of a predicament. I'd really love to learn more.

The way I perceive it it was because of the personal attack against another member. anyway.. let’s get back to topic please.

Where’s the difference?

Infinity will never be exhausted, simple as that. It can’t be. It’s actually pretty obvious.

@Francis777 have you tried ketamine?

Completely wrong. That would be a pretty terrible infinity.

No, Infinity itself.

God is being you.

There’s infinitely more.

Well, are you? The experiental exploration is precisely infinite because that which God is can't ever be exhausted. It is so much NOTHING that it becomes absolutely EVERYTHING. But that doesn't mean that the exploration stops – in the contrary! As soon as you sort of wake up to yourself – that's when it begins to get really interesting. For we are now lucid. And God's creativity is infinite.

@UnbornTao The Absolute is that which you can't be not.

Crazy. I knew we had potential for something

@Hojo Wow thanks for sharing. Beautiful experience, kinda reminds me of a NDE

It's incredibly difficult to talk about stuff like that, because everybody seems to use a term for completely different - sometimes contrary - things. Terms like realize, recognize, enlightenment, awakening, knowing, etc. God can recognize itself for what he is (call it knowing), but experientally grasping itself is an infinite process (call it understanding) For God to recognize itself he has to literally do absolute nothing - not even trying to do nothing - because he already IS itself. Trying to get there is what doesn't let you see it, but even then he IS what he is Experientally understanding God is why we're here

You can recognize that what you are is unknowable and prior to experience. That's it. You can also experience everything you're capable of – which would be using the hand to its full potential. But it has no end.

That's what God does

Yup and as soon as you recognized that you're the hand you can finally start to use it to its full potential and climb some mountains

That's up to you to decide Can't do it for you Well I could, but that wouldn't be helpful

Realizing Love means realizing that only absolute Beauty exists. It's impossible to do anything wrong.

You're already perfect. Ahh.. this is so tricky. I don't mean that you shouldn't aspire to anything. But you're perfect anyway

He means that you are imagining him like everything else.

You're still splitting reality in half: in mind bad, out of mind good. That only leads to suffering long-term

You're just addicted to no-mind. Next step is to realize that even in the mind you are that