Etherial Cat

Thank you. You're welcome, @soos_mite_ah. There are several degrees of commitment. We're not talking about planning a LTR which must imperatively succeed before sex . It's more about having the intention to pursue something beside sex with this person and put the mean and effort to it in a reasonable way. Because, you're there for more than just the sex. You actually like each other and seek something intimate and special together. And there is still room for calling it quit any time if the circumstances makes it right and incompatibility is revealed. In Europe (especially in France), if you get out with someone once on a romantic date, it's assumed that you don't get to see anyone else on the side. If you do, you'll be considered a cheater or a player. I got confused the first time I understood that Americans were waiting to have a conversation to call themselves exclusives and stop seeing other people on the side. The real commitment is showing sincere interest for someone. It doesn't need to be framed as anything. Usually, if you're truly interested by someone, you just keep seeing each other and the thing unfolds naturally, without any need for label.

@Flowerfaeiry It depends. I find that there aren't any general rules that apply to all cases. I mean, if we are talking about a tinder date with someone you've never spoken to before or if you're finally getting on a romantic night out with someone you've known for years, you're not exactly in the same situation. My opinion is that most of the time there is no rush, and things can mature until you get to know someone a bit and learn how to value him/her and vice versa. To me, the right moment is when both have a feeling of trust and ease about it.

I think your comment is taking excessively a masculine vantage point here, Leo, You are venting out possibly some frustration about how females are "sexually stingy", but the reality is that the female experience is energetically at the opposite side of the spectrum you are familiar with. What she wants is a guy who is there because he's interested, not because he's looking to empty his balls. If you had a daughter, ask yourself if you would give her the same advice? Knowing to what extend many men will outlook a female's agenda for their desire for sex, you'd probably understand why it's important that she feels like this guy has also her best interest in mind. Women are the like the egg. We chose who gets in meticulously and this is done by sorting out who is compatible ahead. It's not a house party for everyone to get it. Just like the female reproductive system has safeguard to select the best sperm, the female body and psyche is the same when it comes to chose who is compatible for sex ahead. The thing is, there is no timeline to when you desire to have sex with a man. It depends on what you are looking for. You've got the right for a one night stand as much as you've got the right for looking something more serious. You've got also the right to no sex at all if that's what you chose. What I get from your post is that you are currently wondering if this guy is interested in you in the same way as you are in him. And that is totally legit. So I wouldn't listen to anyone telling you you should suppress or overrun this feeling and have sex. To me, the ideal situation is to feel like you're dealing with a man who values you and for whom having sex is part of how the relationship is naturally unfolding. It's quite intuitive, and your ability to screen this is is always a question of intimacy and ability to read someone's energy. If you suspect this man is not on the same page as you, just dive into his psyche by asking him general questions about the whole topic as part of a conversation in many other subjects and make up your mind discreetly. What's important is not so much the spoken commitment but the presence or the premises of this unspoken mutual respect and genuine care for one another.

Jacob, 12 year old, trader and a Thatcher Fan. The video is in english with french subtitles.

But that was a secret Alyssa... The secret of Brokebake Mountain. ?

Yeah, my experience is that a lot of the women I know have been in LTR during their 20s. Others just had a few relationships that failed, but none because they were jumping from Chads to Chads. https://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2018/11/13/why-the-cock-carousel-is-bullshit-according-to-science/ ^ Here is a good read on the level of delusion coming from incels, regarding that matter.

That was a cool docu to watch. Is this possible that we've been witnessing stage purple/red women rejecting masculine red values to make an alliance with Green?

Cowboys...? Bwhahaha.

Women definitely do have plenty of shady sides. But I think the red pill doesn't make a good job at understanding why we/they do that. The perspective is not deep enough. Women aren't meant to be put on a pedestal but to be seen as fellow humans. I think no humans belong to a pedestal to be fair. I'm surely guilty of forgetting this from time to time.

Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, red pilers are the ones consuming the poison and it's them who are first and foremost suffering the consequences. Of course, it's not agreeable to read such things on the forum as a woman, but it's nothing next to believing and living with this stuff in the back of your mind. What I see is hurt, a total lack of hope and a raging anger and disgust against everything feminine. And they are kinda stuck in devilish loop, because they crave what they hate and demonize their antidote. Behind the difficult discussions, I almost picture some sort of attempt to extract from them the cancerous ideas like we are some sort of shamanic-surgeons-philosophers in here, trying to help them by bringing on new perspectives. But not all sort of mind cancer are possible to deal with. Unfortunately, the current zeitgeist make it possible to easily get sucked into these holes. Incelosophy is a bit of a disease of our time. I hope the systemic elements that makes it spread will decrease in the future instead of proliferating.

Sure! Because having the blessing of a red piller I've briefly met on an online forum is that important to me. Maybe if I find one old enough I could entertain a virtual relationship with him in here for your non sense to be complete? Red pilers also be like: "How dare women be as shallow as I am?!". Of course, the red pill is just the fruit of their own projection and distorted worldview. They are the selfish, materialistic, status obsessed and loveless users they abhorre. That's also the thing that make it so disturbing and sad.

At 31, I'm surely an old hag, please. Coca is not interested in being my beta cuck provider...

Yes. I've found that a lot of men are trying to beat us up into their projections/mental models. They really insist on what must be our experience and resort to plenty of mental gymnastic to make it work. My experience of life so far: I've been spending all my week-ends in the clubs from age 17 to 21 without having sex with anyone met there. Though, to be fair, I got sexually abused after being intoxicated with drugs and alcohol. But I'm sure we agree this doesn't count... I have been in a relationship with the same person for most of my 20s. Actually, to be precise since I've turned 22. So that whole cock carrousel bullshit is totally foreign to me.

This topic has been discussed over and over on this forum. If you want to understand why, you're free to look at older threads and try to understand the points which have been made, instead of insisting on being explained through numerous thread in details what makes red pill talking points wrong. And this especially if in the process you've been showing hostility and close mindedness towards forum members. And it's not about women being triggered "because the truth hurts ", it is about women being triggered because of being gaslit, falsely depicted and having to over and over refute the same points on top of them being misogynistic. I'm sure you're able to notice by yourself that red pill is not exactly a cordial perspective on females and you'll probably end up wanting to move on to something more constructive, conscious and humanizing than reading stuff like "wOmEn aRe bEinG rAn TrOUGH dUrIng tHEir teEns AnD EaRly 20s By AlpHas" on a forum which is dedicated to self-help, philosophy and consciousness.

Many good points have been made here . And it's wonderful that Leo is looking into making this subsection more woman friendly. I must say that I've already got the feeling this dating section has been improving in the last months or so. Of course, there are still threads, posts and users which are triggering but I feel like this is all going in the right direction. I get often implied that 30 years old women are old hags who should run for the "first beta simp" around now that my cock carrousel days are gone and I "can't lock anymore alphas". You just can't win.

If I were you, I'd consider finding some sources of feminine energy both within myself and in the outside world. At least, until you manage to finally get a girlfriend. I think it's quite possible that you are literally starving for it and this is what creates a lot of your suffering. The obsession you've got with girls is actually a deep inner need for the reintegration of your own feminine side. So adding some ressources on the Divine Feminine to your spirituality list and looking into its principles could be of great use for you. And you could make 2 shots with 1 stone because I already told you that your main problem is that you are projecting your inner relationship to women outside.

Users complaining about your behavior and mods siding with them does not really make a situation where you should allow yourself to dismiss the issue unilaterally simply as per your wish. From outside, it makes it look even worse, tbh. Why don't you try introspecting and considering there might be a part of truth in this?

@Preety_India I've been quietly reading threads in the last days and it is correct that you've been over boundaries attacking forum users. I'm not sure if you're into a phase where you're trying to assert yourself or something, but you are being hugely biased about your own behavior. What is said is true.

Being married, engaged or having kids has nothing to do with happiness or being further in life as you are. It's just a life situation. When you are in your early 20s there is still a lot of room self-discovery and growth, which in my opinion make it not the idea moment to get married. There is a lot of chance that you'll outgrow your relationship at some point and figure out your partner and yourself aren't that compatible.

These morons are everywhere. They strike anytime, whoever you are with. I had a disturbed pervert who grabbed my arm as I was walking around with my boyfriend and his buddies a couple months ago. He had his hand on his junk, under his jeans right before. What I do each time there are enough people around is to scream, describe their behaviour in front of everyone and let them cope with the humiliation. This is also an advice which I got from a feminist newspaper. I like it because it seems that a lot of them are horrified by the experience, and might reconsider doing this again ?. I also did this to a degenerate who flashed me in a park last year and started masturbating in front of me. His dick got all small, his face turned all white and he ran away. If I am alone, there is a need for evaluating what are the option. Usually, I chose to prevent the odds of such things occuring by not finding myself alone at night. I take an Uber home or chose a trajectory where there is a lot of artifical light and potentially still a lot of people passing by. I also observe people's behaviour, walk away from anyone who's looking dodgy and get closer to people who are looking normal and walk around them.

Hehe.

Be honest with yourself and question whether you've spent enough time listening to trans people. The points you are bringing are typical of those who haven't integrated the reality behind being LGBTQ but are certain they are criticizing it from above, dismissing it as mere Green delusional bullshit. Contrapoints also has great videos on the subject https://www.youtube.com/c/ContraPoints/videos

This is not correct. Transgender are not expecting that transitioning will solve any of their existential issues. What they are looking for is to circumvent thick social biases and gender norms going at odd with what they subjectively experiment. This way of thinking is a form of spiritual bypassing. Knowing your essence doesn't free you from tangible social limitations, degrading your life's quality on a daily basis. Suffering from gender dysphoria and being stigmatized hardly make people "happy and healthy" in general. The transition is coming from a place of discomfort in one's birth gender. It just causes a lot of emotional distress and confusion.

Because they want to live their life as the other gender, and for that they need to pass. What do you mean here? Knowing their truth of who they are, as such as being infinite consciousness itself?

It is a difficult choice, but I think parents are right to leave space for children with a clear and consistant gender dysphoria to transition. The social stigma issue by itself is not enough of a reason to go against your child's authenticity. Denying someone who feels bad in their gender to be trans can be of far greater damage than just worrying about the social ridicule and oppression they will face. Transitioning early, especially for male born transgender, can help them pass tremendously better by inhibiting the development of masculine features. So it is a very though balance of interest. Also, the social ridicule stem from society's problem with transphobia and the general lack of understanding behind the phenomenon. The trans person has nothing to do with it. I'm more thinking that if I can avoid the whole situation, I'm happy. Being trans in nowadays society is a heavy experience to have.