Galyna

@WaveInTheOcean actually I can for a while. Yesterday I had a negative emotion, started to observe it. I let go the desire to control but was stuck on feeling, this “after taste” after being upset. So I asked myself “can I let go of the desire to remedy my inner sensation?” And then magic happened. As soon as I allowed myself to let go of the situation when I was stuck on negative feeling, that unpleasant feeling disappeared within couple of minutes. All you had to do is to let go. Hope by letting go will lead me to the realization of my true nature. But I have to let go a lot, even my dreams. ? This is so hard, I don’t know if I am ready.

Some guy has already asked this question on forum, here is what Leo said: “...because there is no other game in town...” that made me ? laugh. but really what else is there to do, we need to entertain ourselves somehow while in this infinity ???. Set up some goals and play this game, it is fun. It gets even funnier when you do not identify yourself with the game, therefore you are not attached and don’t really care about the results. This is the most productive state. But the trick is it is very hard to not attach and let go.

"FEAR = False Evidence Appearing Real" (Dwoskin, 2018) I guess it is just a thought projected into the future if we break it down. Yes, every problem we have stems from the desire to be separate, to survive, control and be loved. The shortcut to the awakening is to rest as awareness in the present moment. This is so healing, because present moment does not have any issues. Our mind is always lost in the thoughts about past and future, that creates fear. Thank you for the post.

@peachboy great point. Thanks.

@justfortoday Mind over matter,ha? Treat is as a game and let the desire go, it is a sine quo non if you want your wish to come true. You’ll be surprised how fast you’ll get what you want. as soon as I take my attention from the desire it fulfills , this is a magic for sure.

@justfortoday oh that is nice, can you tell me my future with a coffee or tea leaves? How about tarot or palm readings? I have done all of that in my life. Very popular in my culture too. I remember one woman read my coffee cup and said everything with 100% accuracy, i was 23 at that time.

Okay, since I am a visual learner, that works better for me. I appreciate your help and I am sorry for my drama earlier. We discuss this topic here every day, so I am totally lost in concepts.

@justfortoday so here is what makes me confused, why has this omnipresent omnipotent consciousness has put a limit that it can only experience one POV at a time? If i am infinite and powerful, why I can’t experience all POV simultaneously? is it because time is an illusion and everything has already happened? I am very sorry about my confusion.

@justfortoday yep-yep, great explanation, it creates as I go. ? kinda like in my favorite game ”need for speed”, it creates city, roads, trees as I drive my car!

@justfortoday little clarification: when it watches you, I am not real, when it watches me, you are not real. by “real” I mean an “entity” with a separate POV

Thanks for your help. So basically that awareness that watches “me”, people around me, this environment, experiences various emotions , that is the only one in the whole universe. I got it. Okay!That feels great again, hahahah?. when I say awareness I mean that background of a silent witness that rests peacefully as all this happens now!!!! The one who is ever present and observes “me”.

@justfortoday I think the reason behind my anger is that I want to be real and want others just to be agents of my reality. This is silly, but solipsism feels great and I don’t want to give it up. I am completely honest. I wish that my experience is the only real one in the whole universe.

No dear, it has nothing to do with you. I am emotional because I am confused and tired of this topic, all is wonderful. I think I am going to forget about it for a while as I feel irritated when talking/thinking about it. So I am letting this curiosity go from my life. Later on should resolve on its own. Have to wait. Sorry, I think I was just angry when reading because it hurts my ego.

As I read this, I notice that I start to have emotional reaction about this topic. I am so tired: real/unreal...I am giving up. No more, I won’t even read this anymore. One day we are real, another day we are not. Enough, I am letting this thing go!

Oh, I would love this, I need to order from Amazon ?. Have never heard about Victor. why Psychology is not my major? Lol

Guys, I really need some help here. If you can answer my question I would appreciate it a lot. So, I am reading this book by Michael A. Singer "Untethered Soul." (Thank you, @cetus I fell in love with the book from the first page. That was a very good advice. Absolutely love it, love it, love it! ) In this book the author states that all of us have this constant annoying voice that takes multiple sides during the day and never shuts up. Nothing new, we all know it, right?. However, I wanted to ask people here who is "on topic". Do you guys have the gaps between the voice talking? I was surprised when reading the book that my voice is not acting the way he describes, please read below how the author gives an example of the "voice": "What am I doing? I cant go to sleep yet. I forgot to call Fred. I remembered in the car but did not call. If I do not call now…oh waits, it is too late. I shouldn’t call him now. I don’t even know why I thought about it. I need to fall asleep. Oh shoot, now I cant fall asleep. I am not tired anymore. But I have a big day tomorrow, and I have to get up early.” (Singer, 2007) Wait what? If my voice talks to me like this I would go insane. Glad I do not have this "verbal diarrhea" all the time in my head. I really want to know since people are doing some progress here with meditations, etc. How do your "voices" talk? Do you guys see more images or a movie like visions in your head? Do you use the "voice" when really need to remember something, for a technical reason? I am aware of this "voice" pretty much all the time. I know I am the one who observes it, however it does not make it any easier to get what I'm chasing for.... How to understand the level of my awareness if I can not compare it with others? Does it mean that I am more aware and do not notice it since I am in this mode for a long time. I do not understand then how to "catch" this special state you all talking about...How to be even more aware. Thank you very much, Hugs.

Oh dear... I read most of them including: Ramesh S. Balsekar, Chopra, Watts, McKena, Tolle, you name it, lol.... That is what fascinates me the most, I wish I could have this experience to jump into someone head to compare. Have you come across Irvin D. Yalom?

Thanks for the feedback ? I feel amazing, this is not an issue. I am pretty calm inside. I want to be more centered in “my” being. I am working on letting go whether a thought or a pleasant experience. The more you let go the more selfless you become. I was just wondering how my inner mind differs from other people. Here is what I wanted to know, for instance are you aware of your body, body movements, bodily sensations throughout the day or you fall asleep when you forget about it because you are busy thinking about something else. Are you present all the time or you allow your thoughts to carry you away. When it happens are you aware of being aware or only “wake up” when the experience is over and you realize that you were asleep and remember about your center later on during the day.

@Jacobsrw hey, thanks for the answer. ? The book has finished. I would say that it became bestseller because he went only that far to explain enlightenment. He still operates within the frame of time and space. I would say for the mediocre it is a cool guide to start with. I read far advanced books than this one. However, what I love about Singer is that he is very simple in putting you back in the present moment. The whole experience was a meditation for me. now... about the thoughts. All I want to know how my inner dialogue differs from others and have I advanced just a little bit on my path. I have this inner space call it “awareness “ if you like for a long time. I acknowledge my thoughts and when I am conscious I never identify with my thoughts. The thought arises, I laugh at it and let it go. To be honest it is super hard to stay “awake” when involved in conversation where I need to tell my opinion. I fall asleep when need to use my brain for the technical tasks. I am still learning how to let go. My challenge is to let go of what I really love: people and experiences. I am clinging to experience. If I like it, I want to repeat it again. I still have desires. I am working on dropping my dearest dreams and wishes. It is way harder than to drop or let go of negative experiences. When you have a wonderful experience it is hard to let it go and not cling to it. However, you should train your psyche like a dog, willpower needed.

I don’t narrate mine, only if I am about to talk to someone I will rehearse it in my mind, otherwise no. I try to stay as conscious as possible to keep that inner peace. I love to observe: a tree, a person, nature. So when I am observing someone my awareness drowns in that person, but thank God my mind doesn’t talk, I just try to be as attentive to that person as possible, without judging them with my inner voice. ?

No thoughts , no images, nothing at all when looking at the object? asking because I am hyper focused myself, to that point that I don’t see and hear others talking to me, but my mind is still not blank.

It is not what I think at all.

@Someone here how many cigarettes in the last 24 hours?

Ignorance, okay...whatever... what can be further from the Truth? If it would be the case nobody ever talked about it, we would not even have this in our knowledge frame. I agree that probably there is no one to get enlightened, but there are states of Consciousness, for sure.

@Beginner Mind Good luck!