Galyna

There is a lot of confusion and yes, people don’t fully understand what they mean by juggling these two words. I disagree because they don’t mean the same. Good luck with your contemplation. P.S. “I” will never be able to grasp it.

Also, explain what you mean under this term “awakening “. let’s not talk about enlightenment, I am asking about awakening. Because these two are different things.

By just asking these question won’t lead into enlightenment. I wish it would be that easy. It’s rather a gradual process. It is a hardcore work with your attention and awareness. I am not saying that you won’t have samadhi or satori, but all these states are just states that have nothing to do with the Realization.

Whatever lies in”your”direct experience, no more, no less. If you are not conscious of something, it literally doesn’t exist. Also, I would suggest to avoid using “we” and talk primarily about yourself. It would benefit the readers better.

Please read my earlier posts on forum, because you’ve just invalidated my whole entire experience by saying I was lying etc….

Very interesting suggestion, thank you. Can you please elaborate on what do you mean when you say “absolute”. Just for clarification since everyone puts his own abstract definition behind words and meaning.

You can not throw away your feelings. They are valid and have all the rights to be. Your identity is in fact a bunch of tangled concepts that always contradict with each other, but feelings are valid.

I never intended to lie. I just wanted my readers to get in touch with that feeling when major shift happens in your perception. I don’t claim anything. Please call me out, be my guest. I was writing about awakening, not enlightenment.

@Carl-Richard 🥰 awwww, thank you …..

Read below, first you start with a simple practice of concentration, you need to train your mind to not identify with this chaotic thinking process. Ideally, to achieve a mind of one thought, so your attention would not jump from task to task. You can do breathing meditation and concentrate on the breath, or count from 1 to 10 and back for 1 h. Or go outside and count your steps, the thing here is to be fully present and only think about counting, if forgot, return back and start from zero. Start first with 30 min daily, then increase the time. Once you will train your mind to concentrate on one object, you can put stickers on your desk or mirror to remind yourself to become aware during the day. You must do it every day. You can start with alarm, every three hours surface from your thinking, stop everything and just be, observe. After all these steps, when your mind is relatively calm, you can do atma vichara. But you will need around three month to do the first step. Then atma vichara.

Attention to your thoughts, reactions, feelings, sensations, habits, mind tendencies etc. The goal is to see that everything perceived exists independently. Call it self-exploration. I need to open a new thread about and share my experience, step by step.... I love the way you put it. I can not say much about psychedelics, they are probably not for me, sorry....

You do not need psychedelics to see it. Awakening is a work with attention. What if you do not have access to psychedelics, then what? You are doomed to die in ignorance. I believe psychedelic just morph and play with mind's states. Maybe they help some people, but imho, you do not need psychedelics for realization.

Are you reading " The end of your world"? This is so funny, yesterday, I saw this book in the box in my closet, I took it out and reading it as well.... I agree with Purple Tree, this process of surrendering is very gradual, it wont happen over night, you will have to spend some time to be there. There is no "I" that allows things to be as they are, things just happen. Try not to allow and see what will happen.

Foundation will be setting "me", the needed actions will be taken, the needed words will be said ...

@Merkabah Star Thank you.

Yeah….some of them are, some of them are not.

I am so glad I could help 😊. Maybe I need to write more. Thanks for stopping by. There is no path, really? I love this saying: “As you start to walk on the way, the way appears.”- Rumi.

I didn’t have a traditional family, my dad left my mom when I was infant, my mom passed me to my grandparents (she was 22) and went to seek another relationship. I don’t even remember my parents in the childhood. Mom and dad reappeared in my life when I was a teen. I have a normal relationships with them now. Why?

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@Bandman Since I remember myself, I had this craving to understand the nature of Being. Hard to say in a few words but I remember that day when I found that information, it was in January 2010. I remember the website name: “Game of Consciousness“, it was my first time when I learned about advaita. Ofc, prior to that I had different beliefs and read different things. Concentration, self-inquiry, meditation….atma vichara, even tried mushrooms twice, just a little bit. But in all honesty, once your mind is trained to dive out from the thinking process and not associating yourself with the train of thoughts; that is where the major shift happens. You see your body as it lives on its own, you see your thoughts, as they also live on their own. Realization is all about your attention and commitment. You need to know what to do, how to do it and when to do it. Also you must understand why you are doing and what you are trying to achieve. I have not reached anything. I have just discovered and put my attention to notice how mind constructs this “I” which I call “myself”. It is a collection of things/phenomenons.

I agree 100%, but we need the labels to name things and construct them, bind them together to create illusion and enjoy it.

In all honestly, when I wrote this post I just wanted my reader to feel how I feel inside. At that particular time I felt a shift, I described it as an iceberg breaking apart, personality is crushing because it is a collection of the phenomenon. But we had this conversation last fall, I remember your words. I understand what you mean now. Thanks.

Hey Vincent, I hope your life is great, have not heard from you for so long time. Can you please elaborate on masculine thinking? Thanks,

I was referring to something different under suffering, but you want to go extreme, as usual . All right, I will address this question. It is very interesting question, I appreciate it. “Would you be happy if you tested positive cancer? Or if your children die in a car accident? Or if you become blind? And I mean the list can go on and on.” – actually, you would. You would be surprised how much a human being can take, survive, and adapt to the change. I do not want to sound cynical but a lot of people who went through these situations at some points of their lives have accepted and surrendered to these horrible incidents. I know such people. Some of them are members of my family who had cancers, not even one. My own grandmother lost her son when he was little. It is scary how human being can rebound and move on in life. Let’s put it this way: there are two different types of situations in life. In one situation we can not do anything and must accept the outcome and change/adapt, we do not have a choice: death, illness, disability. You go through all the stage of grief and coping mechanisms. (Denial and isolation, anger, bargaining, depression and finally acceptance.) A lot of people who have terminal illness come in peace right before their death. A lot of people escape death and recover. Notice, there is no suffering in it at the end. It is just a gradual process that begins and continues with suffering and morphs into something else. In another situation we can do something but choosing not to, and staying in the victim mode, pleasuring from suffering, even though might not realize it. It is not in your nature to suffer, fundamentally. That is exactly what I meant when I wrote that you even love your suffering. Everyday suffering, long-term. One that can be escaped or transcended but for some reasons is there and tiring you. Do you see now how different suffering can be? Why do you think you have this insatiable desire to know “yourself”? Because deep down you know that you’ve tricked yourself into thinking you are a limited human being, and now you want to break free from it. Because you also know that suffering is alien to your nature. Let’s be honest. If you get blind one day, what would you do after the 5th stage of grief? You would probably go inward and develop in that direction, listening to audiobooks, meditating a lot on nature. You would use this as an opportunity to realize that you are not just your solid body. You would adapt. You would develop other senses better, might start composing your own music or play on the handpan. Unless you have a mental disorder, then you could kill yourself, but if you are pretty healthy, you would find a coping mechanisms. when you do not want to find coping mechanism nor transcend suffering, you might start enjoying it as well. I would be careful and avoid such negative statements, you realize that you will be shown exactly what you believe in? there is no compromise in it. When one realizes "he" is infinite in all aspects, man....these all mundane things become irrelevant. That is exactly what we are doing here. Still not convinced?

Thank you!!! Nah .... Psychology is not my path.