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@bammy32 Why you assume I am talking about traditional non duality? I never denied Love. I´m saying True You (or Truth) is beyond it. Love is still mind-entanglement-dreaming. God is a belief. I´m not reducing it. I´m telling you you are even Bigger than Love. Something more unlimited than that. However, I am not denying the Love aspect. 💙🙏

Nothing wrong as long as you do it in a conscious way. Which... 99% of people do not. The trick is if you are conscious enough you won´t use sexuality in a compulsive manner. So it will be difficult to find someone that has sex with lots of different people all the time and still do it in a conscious way.

This is not a joke hahaha. Stop a moment and look at your body and see how you are breathing. Notice that breathing is a function of the body to maintain itself. Now stop breathing for 6 seconds. Did you 'dissappeared' during those 6 seconds when there was no breathing? So if you Exist while there was no breathing, CLEARLY you do not need BREATHING TO EXIST. Breathing is something the BODY DOES. How fucking simple but for some reason people think they have something to do with the body. No! You are holding the body as you could be holding a horse inside Mario´s world. This present experience Is all imaginary.

Hahahah...you dont know what liberation is. Is ABSOLUTE consciousness.

@enchanted You are completely right. I got that from Leo LOL i swear Hahaha... good luck thinking you are going somewhere just by tripping and more tripping. You do not understand what a Guru is.

Im not denying god. Im saying God is another creation of ego. @James123 exactly,

you is something that is not even consciousness. Consciousness is part of the dream. (identification). Haha... @bambi Wrong. You are entangled in your own dream but you can become free. That is literally what you are, pure empty energy with no self. Existence depends on YOU, but you do not depend on existence. Im sick of this damn depressing forum, nobody is doing the real work.

The Truth is Never bad. Thoughts about the truth can be though.

Is like this: @Osaid The reason I have a certain body and you have another, is simply because of Consciousness accumulating tendencies of certain memory over and over. If I just drop the memory, I lose the body and I don´t come back as anything in this creation. To get to such a place, a lot more than just normal enlightment is needed. Dissolving into this present experience is more radical and requires more intensity of consciousness than even going through a brick wall. That´s why I don't see Leo claim weird at all. If they think that is weird wait until they discover what is needed for the supreme dissolution.

That does not make sense. You don´t gain that ability. You get to a place of such consciousness you know you are alone as God in the creation therefore you Consciously modify the rules of the "dream" for some moments. That does not make sense either. There is a big difference between dreaming a monster is pursuing you vs actually a monster pursuing you in "real life". In summary, I would say with the definition of Enlightment you have, that is not liberation at all. Most people who think they are enlightened, will reincarnate. Because enlightment is not just about what awakening, is about separating/untangling yourself with all the memory you have gathered from the process of Creation. You guys do not even imagine how deep the entanglement of Consciousness with memory goes. It goes from the Big Bang. You have been accumulating memory over and over. And now you expect to end the work with just an enlightment experience. No, it goes way way beyond that. A lot more dissolution of your Rules need to happen if you want to finish this game.

@Leo Gura I do believe you could walk through a brick wall. But the level of consciousness to be able to do that would be very close to total dissolution. None of us are playing on those levels right now. I don't think any human could still retain physical body after doing that. So we probably won´t meet any human alive that has done that. By the way, the other day you told me I don´t control Dreaming when I told you all the rules are your rules, so I am surprised now you are raising the bar a bit . Good to see you are back on track

Every damn thing you identify Yourself with is bondage and limitation, never You. This Being Will not Settle for any conclusion as an identity, because that which is Unlimited in nature, can not feel satisfied with a limitation. This Being...does not like chains. Does not Matter if they are Gold chains. At one point they Will feel limited. When we Talk about You, we Talk about a dimension that goes beyond any kind of identification. Is my Desire that you touch a way of Being That is so free is trascends everything. The Game does not end until this Being is truly Free. How long you want to prolong It is Up to you.

1- Liberation is being what you are at all times because there is 100% clarity on what you are (not anymore 'assumptions' or 'guessings'). 2- If you identify as the body that is a limited identity obviously. @Someone here A couple of quotes:

Well... I know you think im full of shit, but i Will say It to you regardless: You still havent really grasped what this present moment is. Is not God, a dream, or whatever you become conscious of. Once you grasp what you are, youll get It and it will be over for real. No more Dreaming or fantasies. So far you Only have known identifications And as long as It stays like that, you Will never know what this present moment is. And so the Dreaming Will continue... You dont get how DEEP this fantasy goes. You can actually stop Dreaming and Awake for real.

Indeed. But It does not feel lonely here. It feels like a Big party going on 🙂🍸 Join me? 🙂

Is more profound than recreational. Start slow, maybe 20-25mg. Plugging It has low nausea

On point. Love is a quality of the mind. It is a facet of the Absolute, but not truly 'it'. The Absolute is so United there isn´t even a space for 'Love'. There is truly nothing there.

In the sense that the Absolute/God etc... can be identified or "asleep" and therefore think it is a 'thing'.

Ok, I get your point. Let me ask you this: Who you think you are talking to right now? If you think I´m something outside of You, then you are not in non duality. In a similar way, when Leo talks about himself + the dream or himself + God, it makes me suspect like he is not clear what he is. I just suspect because he identifies with stuff. It looks he sometimes thinks there is a such a thing as a Reality or Dream outside of himself.

Yes, I can disagree in lots of things with him lately but one thing I know is he has strong integrity in certain aspects so he will value more people being honest regardless if they agree with him or not.

I just get the sense from him that sometimes he says is conscious he is God, but other times as like God/"The Dream" is something outside of him.

Tell me Leo, if you create a Game and then you act like the rules are imposed on you, how are you going to play that Game joyful and fully? Who can say "All the Rules are my Rules" ? Uh? Only the Creator. Who is the Creator? Tell me. Are you going to take responsability for the Throne, or are you going to keep projecting responsability and the rules to an external God, or an external Dream? Can you be conscious the rule that water boils at 212 degrees Fahrenheit is YOURS? Thats what It means to be AWAKE.

Woah, thats brilliant.

Cause there is no God. Only You. Once you get You, what is there more to trascend? @Leo Gura Either you Keep God and leave yourself out, or you kill God and leave only Yourself. But you keep playing this game of twoness.

Because there was Still an I there. Realizations of terror = Ego Still there. No identity at all: You. Truth is Only what you Are. Everything else identity, Thoughts, Ego. What you really are is impossible It suffers any realization because It is not an I. Thats funny. Dont you see the reaction and the creation of so called loneliness or terror is itself ego? I think there was plenty room for ego right there.