Javfly33

Yes, I guess is possible is a trick of the human psyche, more games, more tricks to feel above the other. @Breakingthewall But what if that surrenders is what makes Realization happens? Since what surrenders really is the person/ego/the psychological force, not the Reality. The Existence is still there whether one surrenders or not, but maybe if one surrenders then the Existence can appear. And it wouldn´t be your will what surrenders, is not like you stop eating or something for him or he put chains around you, more that you dissolve the barrier of him being a person. Surrendering the will would be more like fanatical thinking, like, ok, im going to let this guy just enslave me. That I agree is toxic.

@Keryo Koffa LOL. I guess I was correct When I thought I was going to pick up some big karma by turning to the other side.

no idea, the ones that follow them like a rockstar and fall to his feet are probably still seeking 😂

Yeah...exactly, the mind can not fathom another possibility beyond those two! Hehehehe who could have thought, uh? 😂 Woah!🙏

@Breakingthewall Well, I think that might be trick. Personally I´m not a devotee and I never have fully trusted him. But who knows if maybe that is the fastest route. He also said something like "If you would give yourself totally to me, Enlightment would happen in an instant, but since you want to do it 'your own way' it can take years and years" The last thing an ego wants to do is surrender to a human... But what if that is the price to open the last door? Tell me, if you would be a negro in slavery america and the price for Enlightment is surrendering to your Master that slaved all your family and treated like dogs all your life , would you do it? As long as the reward is greater than the price, who cares if the price feels like 8 billion dollars and half of your sanity?

lol @gettoefl right This other phrase of him in the book is very interesting too: "“A Guru is always a suspect. So, naturally, there are more suspicions about him than anybody else; unfortunately that is the reality. That is why the possibility which is so close is so far away. So I am not asking you to be trustful, I am always asking you to doubt. Doubt is fine with me, but suspicion is a sickness. Doubt means you are looking as to what is the truth; suspicion means you have made a conclusion about it. Doubt means you don't know; you're looking. That is a good state to be in, you're looking constantly.” - Sadhguru, A Guru Always Takes You for a Ride."

Of course nobody can answer this...there is no explanation that can explain why you were born as a man/woman in x country and not other...etc. The only explanation is that you were not born at all. Meaning... the body you identify with is absolutely not you, not even 1%. Is 0% you. Your current perception means absolutely nothing...you are not there AT ALL. If the perception your eyes right now are 'rendering' dissappears, you will lose NOTHING. Because all that you can perceive, think, feel...etc is all identification. Because thats how identification works, that which is literally Nothing creates itself into existence by identifying with things/experience/reality/perception. So is very simple, you created it yourself into Existence by identifying mainly with the body, which the mind has a complete identification story about parents, family, the place you were born, to 'back it up'.

pathetic 😂

I agree but having said that, if there is psychedelic science for producing enlightment why wouldnt exist a human science for producing/aligning to the vastness of existence/freedom? Is an inner engineering of the mechanics of oneself... because everytime i catapult myself into the black hole of nothingess (for example with 5-meo) i always feel i am not prepared for this (or course before being completely annihilated afterwards 😂) Altough all paths have their nuances. Psychedelics definetely have an inpact and maybe the key of It is in the predisposition of surrendeing oneself to that force. Because is true doing yoga in the living room 90% of times the control of the ego is keeping you safe... altough some other times in surrendeing a little bit each day as an habit there is value, probably valid all paths take you to the freedom and everyone has their path of choice

yeap Additionally that message does not really describe Enlightment, since Enlightment is a certain recognition of the nature of oneself... Which derives in "Loving Everyone, serving Everyone" (although with exceptions)... But as one said already doing that without realization becomes a religious mantra! One that will inevitable one use in a biased way due to not being based in the realization of oneself...

wow

Yeah, is difficult to even imagine, I remember having the thought of trying to imagine what was the first moment of reality to exist and i couldn´t fathom, but at the same time, there has to be a starting point, relatively, because time in a relative way exists, before our body was little and now is big, time is a thing, even though is relative. Is not possible because is not intellectual understanding, is a direct perception, a grasp of the mechanic of the reality, you perceive it through the body. The challenge is You can be doing Yoga for 3 years and still not get the symettry of the body completely right, it has dimensions of mastery this shit As an example i have done the shamavhi he taughts about 700-800 times and I have got it correctly maybe 20-25 times, and im being optimistic. The rest 780 times i did not do the practice right 😂, maybe I missed doing the breathing right, i missed sitting in the 100% perfect way, etc... it takes long time investment to get profound results, if not is superficial.

everyone says that but i always had the most practical improvement (for relationships for example) with 5-meo-dmt trips. Whereas LSD or mushrooms provided more relaxation-mindfulness, etc (internal world) afterglow effects.

@Ishanga @Schizophonia @Breakingthewall As a side note, I remember doing Kundalini Yoga some years ago before knowing about sadhguru, and most Kriyas had 84 repetitions (the apparently 'current' creation according to sg) and/or 112 repetitions (the apparent final creation). I´m sure any people that have done some classical guru-transmitted yoga have stumbled upon this things, asanas or kriyas that make you repeat them 84 or 112 times depending on the type of execise. Creepy, uh? 😵‍💫 @Keryo Koffa

'Creation itself is a karma'. (minute 3:00) Sounds pretty coherent to me!

yeap 🙌💪 it definetely seems like that...

5-meo

200ug of LSD is also an egregor, an story of the ego? 😂

It is, trust me. You can verify everything he says if you do enough Yoga. Trust me, yoga is science, mechanically works. Like psychedelics. Even if you believe it on it or not. No one will believe this but Sadhguru has a video where he says people getting into certain states of Being if you put your hand some cm. above their head, you will feel an aurea/sensation of an infinity spiral moving above their head. There was 3 times where i did Angamardana (one the procceses they teach at the ashram) and I felt that. The crazy thing is that i felt that before watching that video.

Words are tricky, even though i said 'knowing' i don´t mean knowing in the way 'I am a man because this happened and that happened' or whatever. I mean mechanically, like mechanically perceiving the configuration of oneself. For example, i recently realized all people i usually criticize and judge is people that have an opposite internal configuration of the one i usually carry. When I understood the mechanics of my configuration i understood too why i judge this people. Is difficult to explain but is not an intellectual understanding, is like a direct perception of why one is carrying what is carrying and once one sees that the next steps should be about evolution, liberation and letting go of the configuration. because it doesnt seem nobody will do that for me. If not why do i have a very similar configuration of that one of certain family members? Why Reality didn´t take care of wiping the disk clean? The structure wants to keep itself alive, repeat itself, forever. I noticed too i usually chose friends with similar configuration. There is a memory or cycle there that unless one hijacks it, one keeps going round and round and round. So I really believe this Life process is about going somewhere and evolving.

This moment is not proof of anything because you are not 0.01% conscious of why you even are in earth. When you are able to respond why you have a human body and you are not a dog, then you will start to know the mechanics of your own encarnation and what you need to do to go forward and not keep rolling in your own wheel. 'this moment' is not Absolute, yet you are. Let´s remember there is no God or external force creating anything here. Creation takes instructions from the Creator.

Of course, It is. Which is precisely why I´m none of what appears: body, thought, emotion, landscape, sensation, sight, hearing, memory, etc. Why Nirvana Shatakam lyrics say... ?

Right, I mean Non existence would still exist because it wouldn´t really be non existence. What I am trying to say is that in my opinion Existence as we experience it is manifestation. Manifestation can not be what I am because manifestation is not absolute. What I´m really I am is pure non existence. Absence of Existence or of a Reality. Since what I am is the opposite of existence, once this awareness comes reality stops existing, literally nothing more happens. The end. Everything stops, because what i am is a void that is more empty than a black hole.

I disagree, the reality might be a projection of what I am. Because Reality can dissappear because reality is physical, or even mental. A thought can dissappear, a sensation can dissappear, etc... That which Exists can dissappear because Existence has an opposite: Non - Existence. So whatever we are it has to be something that does not have an opposite. Only that way what we are is always the same. If at some point what we are changes then that was relative, not absolute, don´t yout think?

Have you noticed your messages are always about 'you are not doing it right...but i have no idea how to explain to you how to do it right' ? Welcome to the club. How much you really want to 'destroy' that core?