Javfly33

Yes, it has benefits in terms of awareness, is true people built up habits, i would say a drug use is an habit of evasion. Of course if you would ask me, if tomorrow drugs dissappears from the planet, would you say yes? I would say yes, because the learned habit of using a substance to escape or numb reality has the price that you lose a lot of time, what in terms of personal development would take 10 years maybe it will take you 30 years. So i think the awareness of it is good, you are using something compulsively, however is the victim mentality of it which i find dangerous. My use never have prevented me from anything in life, is just something i lose time and focus, so if i wouldn´t have it my development would be way faster, but is not something that prevents me from doing anything. However self-called addicts make their whole life around his drug use, which i find completely ridiculous. Is true also that with harder substances like heavy alcohol drinking or coke/meth this is more difficult to do, since health impact is worse, but usually at the end of the day as i said no drug has power on oneself, one is choosing every single day...

Yes, I´ve been using opiates pretty much regularly for 5-6 years (with some breaks here and there) and my father used heroin for pretty much all his adult life, I'd say 19 to 55ish years old (taking some breaks also, but pretty much a regular habit) The issue I have with this addict mentality is that people project the responsability of their life to an inert powder or pill, which has none. Self-defined 'addicts' use the concept of 'addiction illness' to justify all kind of acts and to keep themselves in a wheel for ever, when the problem is the addiction, this is the perfect way to avoid looking at the core issue. It also enhances you and facilitates your drug use with no remorse of consciousnesss. For example, unless you´ve been on a 4 day no-sleep meth binge or something like that (that you basically become psychotic) no drug in the existence will make you rob anyone. If you get withdrawals you should accept that you are going to feel like shit and that´s it, however, a lot of people use this 'Oh but i´m sick! I need to money to get the drugs' to justify robbing or manipulate anyone to get money. In actuality you are just a little liar that wants to get high again. With an addiction identity you have the perfect excuse to justify all kind of behaviour. I´ve seen countless of people using tricks like this. Basically the trick of the whole addiction identity thing is based on avoiding that you have responsability on your life and the drug addiction actually does not exist, you are just choosing to use drugs every single day because you don´t want to change your life. You still don´t want to look within. Btw, I must say I do not have first-hand or second-hand experience with alcohol users. But I´d bet is usually the same behaviour other drug users, just that because of the different drug effects the behaviour is lightly different. The only difference probably is that alcohol or alcohol+coke use will destroy you particularly faster.

Well said, in fact most of this detox centers reinforce the identity of an 'addict', which is precisely what fuels the compulsion of addiction. One thing is to have a learned habit of using drugs drugs to cope with depression, anxiety, pain, etc, another thing is to have a fantasy/identity on your head that the drug is some sort of 'master' over you, and you have an unexplicable addiction to it because 'addiction is genetic'. And this allows people to use the so called 'drug addiction' as a way to avoid the deeper core issue, the deeper problem. Since it is believed the problem is the drug addiction, not the WHY of why you keep using drugs. Is a smart way of the mind to not look at the deeper issue, because addiction will never end. When you quit, now the drug addiction will consist of how much you have abstained from it. And if you relapse, then of course the fantasy will reinforce itself, and you basically will not do anything more in life.

https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxmE8jpECuMGXgIj8UuYM90Bte9cYa1Tsf Watch this and try to realize you are silence itself. You are not even inside a dream or a reality, you are beyond It. Thats why you are seeking Liberation.

Is not my problem you have not yet tasted the deepest and most worth while aspects of Life

You could Say Im done with the limited aspects of Life. You see mahasamadhi as negative because you have not yet become conscious enough of how limited Life is as an embodied being.

Because in the process of striving to Live smoothly one also discovers more "tricks" so to speak. In other words, you can not leave the body if before you have not reached a state of smoothness as you say. So dont worry, when i Talk about mahasamadhi i dont Talk about denying Life

Or of God 😉

https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxmE8jpECuMGXgIj8UuYM90Bte9cYa1Tsf If you are able to walk out of the body gracefully, why wait for its debilitation to be forced out of it?

You guys have a some very sneaky ways of bullshitting yourselves out of doing any actual real path.

Mooji is definetely not awake I just have way higuer standars than you on what I consider Enlightment and Awakening. Which is why I'm still 'seeking'. And that´s why you have stopped. Is like you are playing a videogame there are 1000 levels, I'm trying to tell you there are more levels but you are convinced 400 was the last level. You stopped and now anything that people tell you above the level 400, you think is false.

I´m done with you. You are too involved in your own misery to want to get out of it.

That's good and is important to not ruminate but that is not Awakening. There is way more consciousness to have until the point someone puts a gun to your head and you laugh, you don´t feel anything because you are conscious. This won´t come from just allowing this will come from consciousness and crystal clear clarity on what this experience is.

Your logic is deeply flawed, look: If you have 2 legs and you lose 1 in an accident, yes, you lose the consciousness of one leg. Now you have the consciousness of only 1 leg, would you say consciousness has been reduced to 50%? No, is still the same. In the same way if we give you 5 xanax and 4 vodkas, your brain will be deeply affected, so what? Consciousness is still there, wheter with your mind clear and active or when you are almost close to pass out. As you can see, you are confusing consciousness with brain stuff. Which is precisely why you are so convinced consciousness can only exist in the brain. Watch this two short clips please: https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxB5bm88_LjbrwK-0QkozQXU6Q9Vhj5K1K?si=q-MvsYDeJb3pA1xX https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxpg_qAuf1ZFghZSiE_M0DGv48ETlWl7bu?si=3C7OEaNUvyivauWU

That´s nonsense. Even if you catatonic consciousness still there. You are confusing consciousness with mind activity. You wrote all that thinking you were smart but you are making child-like mistakes with consciousness. @Princess Arabia I think truly thoughts exist in the head but as an imaginary process. For example if you take a drug it will impair your thinking process, this 'proves' that changing some chemistry in your brain will produce different feelings and thoughts. Is not that reality 'needs' a brain to have thoughts and feelings, but that´s how the Dream is designed. It has bulletproof design and rules so thoughts are truly in your brain, but only as an imagination that serves the 'illusion'. Consider this: When you lose your human body (which has a brain), it will be impossible to you to have thoughts. You now could say "But if thoughts ultimately come from Reality/God/Source Energy, i could produce thoughts even without body". No, because the design and rules of the dream are bulletproof. You can not hack your own rules.

Just don´t belief anything. Either way belief is useless in this 'work.'

Good story but if you are walking down the street and someone puts a gun to your head, would you have fear? Be honest. Or just by your Beingness and surrendering of knowing, of just is, you would be calm?

Some things can only be known best by experience

I´m not sure that what I am is a concept. At the end of the day consciousness is a word/concept. The reality is I don´t know what I am. What I am? Am i inside your mind? Are we the same energy? Whatever you reply to me means nothing because those are just words. I´m looking for absolute clarity of what i am and what this moment is.

They are not really seeking, they reach a mental conclusion and think that is awakening. Like this one: Conceptually that makes sense but my experience is not one of a boundless energy, but with borders. I´m not in your experience so I can´t say whereas you are talking from direct experience or not, if you do happy for you. But usually I´m skeptic of people. Most times people talk from the mind, not actual experience.

The seeking energy is what will actually awaken you

And how to 'unglue' myself? Additionally do you guys think is possible to 'exit' the body at will with pure consciousness? I tried to exit the body today, I focused deeply on a good energy place of a city and tried to merge myself with it and abandon the body, but not sure if this is really possible to do. According to Mr SAdhguru you can exit the body while doing sadhana, but you have to know 'how to untie yourself' from the body, you need to know the 'mechanics' of how this complex knotting works. Not sure if this is Fantasy or it could be real 😵‍💫

How? If the existence is infinite, how can a precise form be the whole reality? Is clearly a part. I mean what is a 'form'? Something that is not formless, or boundless. Something that has a bound, so clearly the form by being in a certain way becomes limited.Thats how I see it anyway. In other words, lets say im at a car dealership where there are 80 cars, and I get in a car, and I say "This car is All cars, this car is the whole store". Clearly not. The car is a part of store, is not the whole store, there are 79 cars left which are not that car. In my view only if one becomes all cars at once, all the store at once, one can say 'There are no parts now'.

This is an interesting topic, let me share some recent stuff that have come up this night if I may. I don't think this 'dream' is random. I suspect it has a point, a very clear point: To realize is a dream, God exists but lacks the consciousness, it creates without consciousness, now the process is to awake completely to a point that the consciousness is so crystal clear that the dream disappears because imagination can only hold as long as you think is real. I don´t mean for me but for all forms, literally all Infinity stops imagining a world or a dream because it gets to a maximum consciousness that it created the whole thing. When God becomes so incredibly conscious and you have 100% clarity, what will happen? Are you ready? Because I'd say we are moving into that direction. Maybe dream ends for good. Next evolution of consciousness. What I have very clear is that God is going through a process of discovery, of being more and more conscious of itself and how it created its own mind (the planet) So if the dream continues it won´t just be 'another dream'. It will be a continuation, an evolution, in other words, More consciousness to come. The game does not reset itself, but continues.

I resonate with this. Infinity seems to be a Singular, One reality, where all kind of forms and possibilities arise from It. All possibilities and forms are limited parts of the Reality, since thats what a form or part is: a limit, a border. This i dont get It so clear. What do you mean by any repetition breaks the syncrony? And what does have to do with reality being inevitable?