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It seemed that the usual narrative is to "debunk" the ability of Psychedelics to produce Enlightement. The truth is no practice or substance is a warranty for producing Enlightement. There are only tools that can help more or less. For some minds meditation it will be all of takes. For others not even hundreds of trips will produce an Awakening. (Let's not even say a permanent non dual state) Adyashanti did not spiritual practice before his first mystical experience. Should we infere from that that we should just drop the practices and just watch TV for a Enlightement to happen?.no. because adyashanti mind is different from your mind or mine

Looks like you are over simplifying different people's minds. Frank Yang might have a certain mind, very different from other type of mind, and so on. Psychedelics usually cause changes outside the trips, just as any sober practice. Awakenings and non dual state are usually temporary, no matter if they happen chemically or "naturally" induced. Not sure what is being discussed here to be honest.

Lol talk about rapid growth! Thanks for sharing

A dumb question: Have you ever been "called out" by a girl that saw you approaching other girls in the same city you approached her in the past? Is just a dumb fear I got since LOL and since you said you were in a small town i wonder if that happened to you. Probably its a dumb question.

@vizual I already agreed with Preety India that is totally possible. What you guys miss is that to get there, you have to be able to: - Approach - Be assertive - Have a decent amount of confidence - Know how to socialize Etc ... For some people, this things are not given. They have to go out there to gain it / grow/ actualize it. And here is where dating advice and "rationalism" survival talk enters. You guys are not "trascending" survival status or value by that romantic love. You are just building it on TOP of the basics. A lot of people DO NOT have the basics That's the thing you are missing.

@Preety_India I do think that that sort of deep connection you are talking about can happen, but I also think that for that to happen, the man and the women must have some survival dating attractive values on them. If you are an awkward insecure low confident guy, I find it it hard that a minimum atractive woman will "trascend the rules of survival" for you because you happen to have his particular x tastes or values that she usually would look for for a long-term partner . In the same way, I find it hard that I will be ever be atracted to a low value girl even if he's into a lot of rare niche things I might be into and has an amazing personality. Will I want to be friends with her? Of course, yes. Will I want her to be my sexual partner or have kids with her? Nope . Why for women would be anything different? It's not. We both are interested. And also note that you say "the love can last even if the attraction is faded". So you accept that attraction must be there. The attraction is the Pilar of the house. Then you can build that deep connection that you say is "real love". But you can't build "real love" withouth attraction in the first place. Because real love withouth attraction is just friendship. And everyone knows friendship is second order priority versus romantic partner.

The interests or agenda that you mind has in order to choose one man or other. It doesn´t matter if the guy was broke. By some reason, you found it atractive. The WHY of why you found it attractive, that´s survival. Not mere coincidence.

You are not getting it. All of those logical explanations are the self deception of the ego mind at play! Haha. You want to practice unconditional love? Love the garbage container as you love your parents. That IS unconditional love. If you prefer your parents to a garbage can I got news for you; you are biased. In the same way, you are clearly biased regarding sexual or romantic partner. There's no such a thing as romantic love. Is just survival. But the ego mind plays very well the self deception card. It will take a long time probably to realize this .

Ok, thanks for the reply ?. By what I'm reading It will be a journey for sure ?. 1 o 2 years? You said it took you 4 years though.

Yesterday did some Lsd and again I went to my favorite therapist, which is God My ego has struggled a lot all this past year's with the concept of "this is a not enough good/valid/worthwhile experience. Let me judge it and pursue another one." With this attitude the ego not only prevents itself to feel that that experience is perfect and worthy to experience, but also it generates pain and suffering. It literally creates from nothing something that is impossible: unhappiness and suffering. It creates "sadness*, "dispair", "loneliness" etc everything. Because all of this emotions are actually perfect and love. You can say they actually don't exist because they are love BUT we give them those names because the ego has actually created then as something opposite from love . The ego experiences sadness as something that is not Love! Sadness for the ego means pain so that's why I say the ego has constructed all of these things. So it's better to call it sadness than just love. Another consecuence of this attitude is that also you don't judge reality but you judge yourself too. Because the ego has a standard of not only how reality should be in order to be loved or worthwhile, but also himself too. So the ego invents a matrix where your life is not "an enough" life. Such impossible thing it's possible to create believe it or not. God showed yesterday that each moment on my life has been perfect! Each moment has been love! Each moment has been God opening his arms to gladly receive that experience. It truly felt like a taking a bath of healing when I listened to some songs that I used to listen in what my ego would categorize as "deep unhappiness moments of my life" and realized that those deep unhappiness moments have been actually perfect. I was just to blind in my ego to see it. So that's it for today. God showed me yesterday that actually everything has been perfect and my life has been Love each second. Each experience has been Yes or Yes love. Is un-avoidable. Since all experiences are perfect withouth the perspective of ego. Thanks God!

Ok, so I have a question of logistics if you are kind to help . If I want to start doing pick up (once Covid goes down a bit), what should I do? I live in a town of about 20.000 people. So here its not possible. 15 min in car from here is a town of about 45.000. Still I think not enough people. Then I have another one 40min from here which is 55.000 people. A little bit more but probably will burn it fast. And 1 hour from here is a city of over 2 million. And pretty good city for pick up I think (its a famous one some bootcamps are usually done here). But its 1 damn hour from home. How should I structure my calendar so I dont burn myself but also I make progress? Will I have to drive daily 2 hours in order to make progress? So far moving is not an option but maybe next year will be. But ideally I don´t want to waste more time and start making progress already.

Omg just help me please.

There are definitely some PUAs that fall into that category. I personally don't like or intend to use Pick up as a sort of manipulation. The main reason I want to master pick up is because I basically lack confidence and assertiveness around women, so at least for me, it's not an option to just find love when going out with friends, at work...etc. I probably need 1000 thousands interactions to be able to grow myself enough to be attractive to a girl I like. I already met several girls in the past which I loved to have a relationship with them but because I haven't grown as a men I couldn't have nothing with them. So for me pick up is not just about finding sex , pick up (or at least any kind of dating practice) is necessary for me to even have a relationship! I think a lot of PUAs start like me and a lot of people don't realize that

Lol I entered this thread just to write this

When I surrender to the present moment it seems automatically my awareness goes to where I think the second chakra is located (correct me if I'm wrong). It seems I can surrender all of my life from the belly, but not from my hand, my arm or a leg LOL. Like I said, when this state appears An awareness into the stomach instantaneously becomes very noticeable. What is the relationship between the breath , the stomach , and Enlightement?

@universe Thanks for the reply . Very wise.

I'm the only one that I use sexuality as a way for my ego to validate itself more than just to enjoy sex/connection? I have had multiple examples of this, but I'll use the recent one, lately a friend of mine recommended me an online dating app to get laid. He said he could take me a good picture and I would find a nice girl. But I have 0 interest in doing it. I do want to have sex but if I just get it withouth not doing anything it feels like it completely loses its appeal. For example if I would meet this girl in a normal scenario, in a club, or whatever, and I could "seduce" her to take her home, then I would feel like I deserve sex with her But just swapping right and doing nothing and just expecting having sex with her, it just feels like I am not bringing nothing to the table. Am I the only one who thinks like this? (I'm not saying is a good way to think. It's.not. but just wondering if I'm alone in this...)

Interesting. I haven't had the experience from the heart yet. Thanks for sharing! @DLH Very interesting! Just what I was looking for!

@Nahm the 'bad' thing is that we might forget it (maybe you don't) very fast. But, even that won't be 'bad'. If we couldn't forget it then love would be limited to not forget Truth ?

Withouth the ego, Reality does not include suffering because it's not existent. However, ego seems to be a normal thing to exist in human beings. So you must inquire the ego.Since it seems to be the "false topping" that has been added to what it is an already perfect and loving reality

@Gesundheit Agree ? . If I'd have to take a guess, the experiences from the deepest trips seem to conclude than in fact I am God and I am imagining/creating reality always in the present moment..so anything that *Is Not in the present moment, for pure definition it literally doesn't exist. Because existence is reality. And reality is the present moment. But I still think I am talking right now to a human being out there (you) and not just my imagination..maybe because is not clear still to me, or maybe because I want to keep living in delusion and truth would be too radical to keep living in accordance to it

@Moksha From what book did you find that Quote? No such a thing as being re-born or past lives You are all lives so that Buddhism stuff doesn't make sense to me, at least yet Lol

I can imagine it was scary before you surrender lol. @eputkonen Do you have any posts talking about it?

Perfectly described ?⚡⚡

You are "awakened" uhm?