Javfly33

In which ever incarnation you are, you are carrying the imprints of past incarnations, so really in a way you are 'living them' right now too. Karma is 'saved' through incarnations, is not like you wipe the hard drive clean every time you get into a body.

👏👏Yes, yes, Yes

The thing is that which doesn't need enlightment can be veiled by thoughts or barriers as you guys say. So we are just trying to wash away the barriers, is not that that the 'All' is not enlightened but it can exist in different ways of being, in a way thats the 'Freedom' as you say, you as existence can exist in several ways, more open or more closed, more aware or less aware. So personally what I'm just seeing is: How am I constantly closing myself? By what mechanism I identify myself with limitations? etc It is important to understand the concrete mechanism of how one is doing it. So from that place, every time once does it again, it is a conscious decision not anymore an automatic mechanism. Is like this, I have a home, I go out to do things, and when Im tired or Im done with those things I go home and I lock the door. But imagine I lost control of this simple conscious free decision process. And one day Im unable to unlock the door even if I want to go out. What I'm saying is understand how you locked yourself, then once you understand the locking mechanism finding the key to open it is just a matter of time. After all if you are indeed the Creator, can't the creator manufacture any key? So think Enlightment as manifacturing the key to finally walk out the door. Once you see you are not this body, the seeking to go beyond the limitations of the body is natural. Because it starts to really feel like a prison. But don´t deny the prison while you are in it, or you might never get out of it.

Yeah I think the same is an ongoing process. Thats why im always alert to the messages of "there is Nothing to get". There is a lot to get. In how I peceive It is a state of Evolution of the Intelligence, rather than a Mind experience. For example a human is just a certain Evolution of an intelligence. You have to realize Existence is an on going process, is going through an Evolution, is not stuck. Altough sometimes It feels like that. Yes, a boundary for that which is boundless, feels invevitably impending I believe animals do not have this seeking because they do not experience boundaries, they are simply bound to the compulsion of automatic reactions, which ironically is a certain freedom in itself The point is you Will lose the body at a certain point, at that point is not anymore a state is a reality.

In how I see It, There is not a Who that wants to become enlightened, rather the Existence seeks to break the boundaries, whether those are thoughts, physical body, energies, etc... I think is incorrect to understand Enlightment as a trophy that one gets or "status" that one has, rather, is a certain state of Being, that instead being based on limitations and identifications, is in expansion and boundlessness.

Im saying there are dimensions of Awakening that go beyond we can imagine with a mind. Because Mind as you know is just thoughts. It can not cover the possibilities of the "All"

Im not saying people are conscious. People do not have consciousness. Consciousness has people.

It is..but there are Thoughts more Aligned with Truth than others. There are Like higuer vibrational Thoughts. There are very high states of perception that can start to open Up when your sadhana is at a certain level of intensity. And trust me in this perceptions you see that most people that think they got It they are Still in the kindergarten levels... This Thought did not arised to me while drinking a beer. It came in a high state of perception.

@Ishanga Yes, in fact I won´t probably be liked for saying this but I seriously think no one in this whole forum is Enlightened. In how I see things up to this point after the sadhana I have done, there are steps to the path and 'levels' in the staircase to Heaven (Enlightment) in which people might confuse a step with the end. Enlightment is very serious, it has trascendental and physical implications. Enlightment is not merely a fleeting realization or a psychedelic insight or meditation samadhi experience.

Yeap https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxwQbQ7WL7L8L1dlEhav4MlxDThk2qnTfW?si=z8QriyH3pWY2DTTO

Why do you even wake up every day from bed if you arent getting anywhere? You are an Alive process, when you were born you were very small and now you have grown into an adult human being. You are an on going thing. Is your own Existence that Independently of your body that is going somewhere.

Yeap @Someone here watch this short: https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxwQbQ7WL7L8L1dlEhav4MlxDThk2qnTfW?si=z8QriyH3pWY2DTTO

Is the Existence that seeks Liberation, not you or the ego. Personally as an ego I would have preferred that my life would have been as an anti-spiritual as possible 😂 But seems someone else set this up for me, in other words, this life is not really mine, is in the hands of something that wants to Realize. So is not really my choice, as SG says, I´m just a slave of Shiva.

This doesn't depend of me.

Daaaaamn, you were serious uh 🤐

What is the longest straight that you have been sitting Meditating? Do you think you cou Is all One Life but It lives through Infinite ways of expression (human bodies, and other things). Your body and mine are separate but the Life that gives life to these bodies is the same.

Yeap, try to stay 2 minutes without Breathing, now...forget eternity, lets say you reeincarnate, is everyone ready to be without Breathing for 8, 80, 800 years? 😂😂😂 People dont realize when you lose the body you are losing the ability to Breath too.

@r0ckyreed Is actually pretty simple. When you understand how you picked Up your body, you know how to not pick Up any other again. Contemplate this: what is the difference that is happening in Reality , for you to be experiencing your body and not mine? When you consciously dissolve the diference, then the possibility of creating a diference again, is Only your choice, not anymore a compulsion. But when you can not dissolve the superglue you have all over yourself, when your body is removed of you (death) Guess what, you Will attach yourself to anything similar to your glue again in seconds. The "glue" is the karmic configuration of the Creation that you picked Up from the start, and it has been the way of determining your incarnations until now. Which is why dissolving It means ending the cycles for your Existence It is permanent and forever, because we are talking about dissolving The very ingredient that stucked you to the wheel of Creation. It is because of the glue that your human Life started in the first place. No karma = no Life. Liberation means end of Life. Fortunately for you, you are not even Life.

Ego is just ignorance. Dont applaud ignorance, you are better than that.

Of course that you can because thats what YOU ARE 😂 Identification with thought creates feeling/sensation/belief that you are having an experience right now. In a way you are, because attachment to memory is so strong It creates a world. If you knew how to unlock Yourself with memory you would lose your body right now, you would stop being "incarnated". You got Yourself into a body but now you dont remember how you did It 😂 and so here we are. Consciousness is not what you are.

😂😂 @Salvijus

@Ishanga For sure, when one gets into reaction mode to the outside, one is basically becoming 'bounded' to memory. While a conscious response is based on the present experience of your intelligence (chitta, consciousness, etc) 👍 So basically reaction response is just a slave of memory (being a slave of the cycles) and Conscious Response is evolving and making conscious steps towards your ultimate Freedom (Liberation/Mukti) 🙌

I guess I still have to whip my servant a bit more 😂

i forgot https://www.guess.eu/ too

@James123 Yeah. Let me ask you a question. Don´t you think if the thoughts keep popping up, is because still awareness has not realized itself fully? In my view, once awareness would realize, the mind should shut up, because total clarity about what I am is there, thats what awakening is. So mind should only speak to serve me, never again to disturb me.