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Maybe they have fear/concern that ingesting the substances might make them 'lose' their "state of consciousness". I guess as much people like to idealise this people, as 'Awakened' as people might say they are, they still live within certain limitations (even though they might be imagined). For example it is true that Sadhguru asks always to sit in a certain posture when he is going to give talks or interviews. This way of sitting facilitates certain alignment/energy. So he is still using certain tools to facilitate feeling/being in a certain way. In the same way, when ingesting a powerful chemical, some of this gurus already might be guessing that if they take it they might not be able to maintain their state of consciousness (assuming these Gurus are actually residing in a high state of consciousness, and are just not bullshitting us, which I think a lot of them do Btw) If they intuit that taking this chemicals will produce some kind of inbalance, they will want to avoid taking it. (Notice that in most schools of Yoga is not advised to take coffee 4 before any kind of practice, since coffee already produces certain alteration and 'blockage' in the sensitivity/energy system). Overall I would say most of them are just scared of psychedelics, kind of like most of society

Whatever works for you my man ? @Yimpa Care if I do a little correction ?

Because of narcissism of his ego. I appreciate Leo and he his work is AMAZING but he must come to a point where he realizes this knot he has. It´s his Karma. Others have other type of Karma. Each ego has certain karma assigned to him that if surrender it / let go of it, it becomes a powerful spiritual possibility. Leo don't ban me for saying this LoL. @Breakingthewall I also found quite surprising that Sadhguru has said that not even once has taken drugs or alcohol. I guess it's because they Never found a reason too. At the end of the day we start doing psychedelics because we were trying to find/experience something beyond what we know (seeking). If certain people have already activated/seeing this, then this motivation might not be there.

Stop conceptualising and thinking. That's not it. A limitation, and idea, a conclusion, that's never it.

I said the way it welcomed me reminded me of DMT Aliens. I didn't said the entity was Alien ?

@SeaMonster See, it's simple as this: If you could feel Blissful by yourself you wouldn't be wasting your time being entangled on thought stories about a you that needs to be healed ?? Now, the reality is, you guys have no idea to Liberate yourselves, so to feel good you are now saying that it is your choice to be miserable. Or that it is not possible to escape it. In both perspectives, those are dark-type, depressing type of thoughts. Only because energy system is damaged, there is no distance between you and thought, this catastrophic type of thoughts and beliefs happens. Please re-consider what you are doing. Notice an intuition inside you that tells you there's something beyond your conclusions and assumptions. Walk towards the Light ? Abandon any type of thought does not feel powerful ?

That's literally what I recommend it. You can do that anywhere.

Whatever man. Say what you want. If you want to project to me that I am "bad" or "broken" in some way, go ahead do it. Light has been touched here way too much times to forget what is real and what is a horror story. You want to feed into the horror story? Go ahead. There is clarity here that I am not a thought story that needs to be healed, I know I am absolute Love,nothing and Innocent. That which needs to be healed, it's a thought. Tricking you that you are that. You guys are so awake but deep inside, all of you guys keep believing the horror story. Meh. I expected more light from you, but you are just projecting darkness and limitation to me. With all respect, I know who I am. I wish you can also realize that. ?? much love brother. Remember you always Here and Now. Are you conscious or are you watching the horror movie of the mind??

Yes , indeed. That's not true brother. Hear me out. I have repeatedly gotten into states of being after practicing certain tools (like the one I was talking about in the previous messages to @Federico del pueblo) where there is something done to the energy level (not to the level of thoughts or emotions as other practices) where trauma/trauma related thoughts is not there. See, if you could see that what you were trying to solve was something that was a backpack that you were putting on your back everyday, and suddenly you realize it's something you can stop carrying it, would you carry it? Before you thought you were this backpack, you thought you need to solve or heal this backpack because it was something or a part of you. But now you clearly see it's something that you pick up and attach to it. Here's the mindfuck, trying to solve the trauma, it's literally feeding to the trauma. Because that's another thought that creates the illusion that there's something about you that is not absolutely Free and Light right now. @josemar Maybe can confirm this to you: This is not "Absolute" speaking stuff. This is real. But you guys keep doing the duality of relative Vs absolute. PLEASE realize that making this duality NOW it's literally the way the ego creates itself. There's only Absolute. You are not your mind ALWAYS, not only on a psychedelic tripping. As long as you do not know how to keep a distance from the mind and have a strong clarity of who you are (not as narrative! As an actuality!) then the endless cycle will not stop. Thus why I keep repeating in this forum the importance about raising your energetic levels, and overall exploring other practices and tools that are different than meditation or psychedelics. If you don't believe me, just look at drugs, there are certain drugs that let you operate completely in the world but at the same time block the trauma. Well, here's the thing, some of them block them, but others work in the way that the chemical does something to the energy of your system, so the energy consciousness level where the trauma exist, is lower to the consciousness energy level where the chemical is putting you, so you basically are at a point where it is "trascended" or in other words the energy system is no longer getting identified with the thoughts of trauma (and therefore, they stopped happening altogether for the duration of the effects of the drug) Here's the thing. I have explored certain practices that do the same that drugs do, and sometimes they do it even more efficiently.

It´s not an ego defense, it's that Who You Are does not like limitations or conclusions of any kind. Saying 'I am alone' it's one of them.

Good questions. I would say material attachments hasn't been abandoned. But the focus on how I try to act on them (like dating) has changed. There's an stable understanding than everything that I must do in the world, must happen within a pleasurable-well being state of consciousness, and not otherwise (trying to get whatever, in order to feel good). Not much has changed in my dating or career challenges from 1 year to now though. What has changed is how I feel within in regards to it. Some different results have started to happen in life as a result of this, but still at the beginning phase.

good one ?

I´d say after doing that course something clicked in me in what I really value in life. The thing about teachings... I know its very personal, and some people think going full throttle on a single type of teaching its mistake...yet as I wrote in the past, 1-2 years ago when I was coming down on acid I did the infinity meditation video of YouTube and what happened there completely made me realize sadhguru wasn't talking just shit, when I touched a certain thing that shattered through all bondage to thought-body, I knew wanted that before anything else. I think at that point its when I intuit isha teaching could fit perfectly with me. Yes, it is the same thing. Before certain asanas postures are taught in the course that you should do before doing shamavhi Even though the real juice its in the pranayama (Imo), the asanas are also very important, I believe they have done as important work in me as the kriya itself. Hatha yoga is more powerful than people think...the issue is in western society people think Hatha yoga its gimnastics and relaxation.. so people think its just doing postures lol

@Yimpa My friend, thoughts are the ones that get people into insane asylums ?

Notice that even the word "limits" or "conditions" was created by Thought. If you activate something Beyond thought, just imagine how Unlimited Power you have, since "limits" and "conditions" do not exist in that place.

You can definitely think about Oneness,Infinity, freedom...etc. But as elegant as that will be, it will only be thoughts! How can one expand a thought? Since a thought it's limited by its own nature of language? Even if one accumulates an insane amount of knowledge, thought will never ever get close to the end of Infinity. It's like counting from 0 to Infinity. Will you ever get to Infinity? Never. I think the same it's happening with us trying to "grasp" Truth or Reality with thought. We think we can, but the reality is, any thought or concept is happening within the Infinite Bucket. So Infinite Bucket must activate/be/awake itself, from that place, Total Power/Freedom/Will is possible. But from the limited bucket? Can something trascendental ever happen? I don't think so. What is absolute thought? ??‍♂️

@Leo Gura @Breakingthewall Well, thought it's a power in the sense that it's a very useful tool for survival, if Leo refers to that. The Power I´m talking about is one that exists outside of Memory Notice that to say, think, imagine or understand anything about reality, language and memory must happen.

Sorry you are right. I wasn't tripping, just feeling Godly ?

I know, you are so right ?

"Cree el ladrón que todos son de su condición...." Look up what that phrase means... Girl You wish you could get the states I get just closing my eyes totally sober by tripping.

I know, most of the topics that I considered the best I'm putting lately they are getting no replies. Try reading it next time while you are in a more sensitive/higher state of consciousness, for example while tripping.

By the meaning I've gotten out of it, it's sort of working on yourself, like for example healing your inner child, or solving stuck emotions, or something like that.

See, here's the thing. Right now you think some parts of your mind are still you, that's why you think there's something to do about yourself, like shadow work, or healing some parts. @Carl-Richard When you repeatedly verify that you are never, ever, a thought story, a concept, or an identity, you obviously realize that you are not God/Awareness only when you are in a peak meditation state, or in a psychedelic, you are that God/Pure Awareness NOW, NOW, NOW. NOW, you have your energies slept, or intoxicated by ego thoughts, and you believe that there's a you that needs to be healed. See, I'm not denying that the mind and body might do some behaviours that are not the best for survival (maybe who knows, someone has an addiction for shoplifting and that gets them into trouble). See, I'm not saying that is OK, I'm not saying that is a good use. All I'm saying is, you as God(or awareness, or nothing, or who ever you want to call yourself), is not a thought or concept. So you work on yourself as God, and that means, ACTIVATING yourself, stop being lost in thoughts, if Awareness is Awake, activated, channels are opened, then the body and mind will work to the best of its abilities, and it will do the necessary things or most optimal things. Suddenly shop lifting won't happen, because there is a certain consciousness or Intelligence that is not unconsciously feeding into the thoguth or energy patters that produce that behaviour. See the difference? I'm not saying humans are perfect or don't do dumb things that it would be better they don't. I'm saying You as Who You Are, is not a concept, human, identity, or a memory, and thus your "zone of work" so to speak is not that one of bettering anything (because you are already Perfect), but rather of activating yourself and reclaiming the Power you are Now.

Shamavhi kriya, Sadhguru teaches at the end of inner engineering course. The states I reach are beyond anything you can imagine if you haven't gone there. It blows any other state that I knew. I could talk a lot about this, and at the end of the day, all that matters is producing this states AT WILL NOW, not just during a practice, but...for example with Bandhas (body locks), I have produced such intense awareness that any trace of existence Vs me completely disappears. Now...this might seem as a normal non dual meditation state...it's not. This Bandhas effect are beyond anything I've gotten to mediating. There is such intensity of awareness that perception just becomes like an empty Diamond of Pure Power. It's just YOU, AND YOU. When you touch this just for a few seconds each day, you know what really Mastery/Pleasure/Victory really is. I think at the end of the day, that's what all this is. If you touch this states everyday, you have a real comparison on what is actual well being, Blissfulness, Love, Victory. You know thoughts are just hell. You just don't want to go there ever again. With thoughts you will never win this game. Method I learn from a famous Guru. The method is nothing super rare or special. Anyone can do it . The method is not precisely the point. The point is coming to such realization of Love and Light that you accept yourself so much as a Being of pure power and light (God) that you stop fucking around with the ego and mind horror story. And start really mastering your Life (mind, body, energies, emotions) @Davino Because I still fall to the trap. But it's clear at a certain intuition intelligence that all there is worthwhile to life it's just over powering any kind of ego thought with intense Awareness. I still have to tune my methods. I'm probably at about 0.1% of the waking time blisses out/God vS 99.9% in ego. But it's clear to me that I can tweak that percentage upside down. What I'm pointing out is: do not waste your time in ANY thought story of the self. It will not only make you suffer, it will also waste you time. What That topic was because I was under an ego state.

God discussing with itself whether it is Awake or not. That's all. So funny ?