Javfly33

I can´t help but to laugh at the thought that an important quantity of people here do believe their room is the whole of reality or that what they see with their eyes is all that exists right now. Truly hysterical. But here we are debating it regularly 🤣🤣

I think we have debated this in the forum in the past and we clearly have different views. In my experience psychedelics are not spirituality and they offer you no ultimate goal, but momentarily intense mystical experiences (which, can have positive long-term therapeutic effects as well as other psychoactive substances). Yoga or Buddhist Meditation (for example) is not designed to produce in you any concrete experiences (in fact it is usually taught to not get distracted with any momentary samadhi that might have happened), but rather a path with a concrete goal. I myself benefit from psychedelics in the sense that they opened some doors for me to start meditating for the first time, so is not about denying the usefulness of them, but pointing out that comparing them with actual spiritual paths is a mistake, which inevitably will lead to frustration if understanding them as that. So that´s why I raised the question of " 'more powerful' in what sense?" Clearly in producing in the next 4-5 hours an intense fluctuation in consciousness, nothing can beat an ingested external chemical. But my point was meditation or yoga is not designed for that goal. So the comparison makes no sense imo.

Oh Ok.

And yoga is not a psychedelic. So why say they are more 'powerful' ? In the same way when Leo says 'it just pales in comparison to psychedelics". Yeah, no shit. You literally ingest a chemical. What did you expect ?¿

@Panteranegra Where did you learn Kriya Yoga? I mean meth is also pretty 'powerful' compared to meditation. Why people not just do meth instead of meditating? We really need to come to a consensus into what Yoga or meditation is. Is not designed to give you in 20 minutes a peak mystical experience. Is supposed to be a path. IMO you guys mix up things which are not related.

That´s what enlightment is for. You exit yourself from existence...duh. You guys don´t get it yet... 😂

What if Nothing is the ultimate openness? Maybe we are missing that If reality is Nothing, only nothing can have endless amplitude in all directions

I´m not sure where you want to arrive with this. Like I´m not sure what you want me to say...you want me to convince myself that you do not exist?

Yeah, I´m not sure the point of all this. He wants me to accept that he is imaginary or I am dreaming him? Jesus...fine, if it makes you happy. By the way @Inliytened1 since you are imaginary If I ever saw you by the street you will not care if I slap you right? I mean after all you are not real, right? 😎 You know what? I'll make you a punching bag so @Breakingthewall and I can practice some boxing, after all is my dream and I'm dreaming you both so who cares.

You don´t need to fit 'the others' in your present moment, because is not yours, therefore is not limited. If there was such a thing as a limited present moment the problem of solipsism would arise, but since the only present moment that exists is boundless, where is the problem? There is space for everyone here.

Realize is all his projection. She is unable to handle their own feelings/thoughts so she projects their own frustration to you. Let me correct you @Buck Edwards Your reaction to her words have been ruining your mind.

Of course, why wouldn't? That´s what Infinite means, that it has infinite space to hold all possibilities of the mind

how can that be related??? oh yes, then that is absolutely my case

Haha yes, sorta I don´t get what you mean 🤔

Are You calling me a whore? @Sugarcoat And why you think is that? Do you find atractive those emotionally mature Girls?

Also Nadi Vibhajan is a Free daily psychedelic.

Did this song play while you were flying around the earth? @Loveeee Deepest I´ve gone was probably 1 year ago, where I partly lost control of the body because I was trying to hold all infinity inside my body. Something very wacky that didn´t know it was possible.

wut? I don´t think so.

I don´t need good luck I already enjoy the process. Also no self already happens, but the self gets constructed again. The path is making the self more and more transparent until truly there is no more possibility of self constructing again If you have an idea of just removing yourself as a self completely from day to night you are very naive. Just because non duality YouTubers tell you let me tell you is not so simple, this work takes a lifetime, if not several ones.

@Someone here @Breakingthewall I think the article can be read from two perspectives, depending on which, the meaning is radically different From the ego perspective is depressing and deterministic (everything was chosen for you) But from the Reality/Life is freeing because it means total responsibility (all circumstances are a cause and effect of You, you are on the 'drivers seat') So it depends on what is the identity, the article is empowering or deterministic/depressing. Usually I like articles that are written from the perspective of the Reality/Absolute, since thats what one really is. But for some people too stucked in the ego, humbling them like this could be beneficial so they seek something beyond their constructed personal life

No, that´s why I keep doing Yoga. I use the word 'sadhana' because it has certain implications that just the traduction 'spiritual practice' does not have. But I'll abstain to explain you further seeing that you are not interested in learning much at the moment.

I yet have to read of him, thanks I'll check it out.

What is Yoga? (Yoga Sutras 1.1-1.4) 1.2 Yoga is the control of the modifications (gross and subtle thought patterns) of the mind field. 1.4 When one is not in Self-realization, the Seer appears to take on the form of the modifications of the mind field, taking on the identity of those thought patterns. This simple Sutras tells that: God is absolute sanity. Ego is insanity. Awakening is sanity and clarity. Dreaming is fantasy & insanity.

Well said. Is Life who chosed everything (unconsciously), the ego didn't chose anything.

Only it lasts like 6 minutes lol