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@King Merk Sure but they complement and integrate into each other. Just learning game or just teaching game is foolish and produces mediocre results. Which is why most guys that only follow the RSD method only end up sleeping with/dating with 6-7/10 girls in looks that are also underdeveloped and have a myriad of other issues. I have been in the game community for 10+ years and have met over 100+ guys that have been in the community and I have been extremely disappointed by the results I've seen. As Leo says, I'm after really squeezing the juice out of life, and my aim when getting into this was always to get spectacular life-changing results and I've met only 2 guys that at least somewhat touch that realm. @KH2 Idk what you mean by small penis, if you have a 2 incher shit's tough but if you have anything over 4' I don't think it's an issue.

@Butters Just finished watching this, Patrick had a good take. @Leo Gura What makes what he did exploitation? Isn't it onlyfans and camgirls management? Are all onlyfans managers exploiting the girls they work with? I think he for sure used them to make himself rich but if he's not lying he made them a lot of money as well. If they consent and are in on the plan, where is the line? I feel like this is a massive grey line and many issues are at play here. Sex work and Onlyfans is the next evolution of MeToo. Women trade sex for power, it is a thing. To what extent do we think this is bad?

@Hardkill I mean, I answered your question. They have good parts but miss others. If you want to more or less consistently sleep with average girls or get an average girlriend then RSD will let you do that. What makes you think Leo has advanced game? He mostly focuses on self-development. If you want to date extremely attractive women or have a high-level social life similar to like Dan Bilzerian or a particularly exciting and rare lifestyle or sex life then you have to learn the basic game from RSD(which basically makes you a fun, interesting person to talk to that knows how to escalate to sex when the occasion presents itself) and then specialize into something else. I personally want better results than Owen himself gets and the results Owen gets he can't even give you. Remember he's a multimillionaire living in the Hollywood Hills that socializes and networks for a living. If you're an accountant that works 40 hours a week for 100k a year then your options are way more limited.

Are you sure? You got offended by people giving you feedback. You seem neurotic, closed off and not very emotionally expressive. I don't know you indeed but that's my first impression and it matches the reaction you got from the girls in your classes. If you were an attractive guy with a fun and charismatic personality then on a college campus you should have endless dating options and the IGs of every single girl in your class. I'm not being judgemental, just realistic. The good news is you don't actually need those qualities necessarily. You said you're in school for medicine right so do you just want a serious girlfriend that you appreciate so you can have female company while you focus on your work? That's easily doable if you just refine your methods a bit. Not everyone needs to be an easy going fuckboy or have a phase like that.

Why are you not on dating apps/IG? You can expose yourself to all the single girls in your area that are looking to fuck/date someone right now. Night game is extremely tricky. What you described is traditional club game. You're basically supposed to yeah approach a girl, isolate her by dancing with her somewhere and ramping out the tension to the point where you can kiss her and/or move her to another bar/venue/food/your place. It's extremely hard if you don't have wings to do it with or if you don't have the personality type for it. My favorite is places that are more like outdoor strips rather than just a single crowded venue. With different patios, clubs, parks, food stalls, etc nearby, much more fun. Or I like playing more the social circle game and having booths at megaclubs but if you're in a small town you won't have that. If your small towns has a lot of tourism then it can be just as good as a bigger city. If it's a uni town it's also easier. If demographics are bad, your family is from there and there are few tourists then I would just focus on online game and getting better at social media game in general. Make funny tiktoks that are college vibes and when you go back to your uni town you'll literally get fangirls.

@King Merk What makes that so obvious to you? RSD definitely has blindspots and I've heard horrible things about their Bootcamps. I've heard bad things from other coaches as well though, dating is just really hard to teach and to consistently produce results for varied groups of people. They mostly focus on the cold approach and the inner work portion of game. They don't teach anything related to finances/career/entrepreneurship, social circle & lifestyle design or status and social media. Those things are really key to getting long-lasting and/or big impressive results. I've been following RSD for 10+ years and met dozens of guys that did as well and the vast majority have only gotten inconsistent basic results over these last 10 years.

I don't think so. I'm a bit ashamed because I've endorsed Tate in the past but read the charges. "Cops say the suspects used 'physical violence and mental coercion' to force the women to comply with their demands, including 'intimidation, constant surveillance, control and invoking alleged debts." Doesn't that sound exactly like something he does and endorses? Tate is pretty unhinged, he's talked publically about doxing people and sending vans of guys to people's houses that shit-talk him online. I know specifically, he tracked down that journalist that said something bad about him and showed up to his house with Tristan and he also had that guy that was an addict that said he could beat him up and then Tate doxxed him and his parents and threatened to spend millions to sue them into poverty if the guy didn't humiliate himself in atonement. Threats, coercion, intimidation, surveilling and tracking down people, and blackmail are all things he's talked about and bragged about. It's interesting since he does have legit good points. It's a nuanced situation. I don't think valuetainment should be ashamed of platforming controversial and nuanced discussions. We don't have to support and stand for everything the people we have conversations with do. Good take, I think he's a narcissist and honestly doesn't see his behavior as problematic so he outs himself unintentionally.

I think it's honestly pretty much impossible to predict the economic impact of AIs to the world. Probably the closest guess is for the next 5-10 years it will allow individual entrepreneurs to compete extremely effectively in the market by having the AI be like an outsourced team and help his/her creative process. In the future beyond 10+ years though then it will inevitably bring some form of socialized economy as it will so ridiculously outcompete humans in every sector that it will make our current economy ludicrous. Because yes, it can already mimic emotion and will soon probably make it themselves. Ray Kurzweil believes we will have a general AI around 2029. It's a big debate in the futurology community if a machine can have consciousness but if you're a fan of this work I find it hard to believe that you don't believe in AIs having consciousness and emotions.

Who is we? If the last 5 years have taught me anything it's that there's no we. YOU better have a plan if things overnight get 3x more expensive. That should be something you've been working on and keep actively working on. If that happens and you're not ready, your country will let you starve and die on the streets as they do every day with homeless people and people that can't make it. This is a very wise comment. I personally would say there's 0% chance that China invades Taiwan. It militarily, economically, and geopolitically makes no sense, it would ruin their country.

@Tyler Robinson Ideally relationships should have logic and business should have emotion. Keeping them separate leads to all sorts of issues.

The book She Comes First by Ian Kerner is quite good, it's the best book out there on oral sex.

Okay in what context?

@Karmadhi Daygame should be combined with nightgame and more importantly online game, social circle, and social media game otherwise it is a fool's errand.

Start making the content, that's the only hard part. Consistently making content is a beast of a willpower and work ethic exercise. I've been trying to do it consistently for almost 10 years.

Your results will only increase linearly if you track them and you have a process. If you randomly go out for 10 years for sure you'll make progress but on what metrics and how would you even be able to compare? It's really useful to systemize game, break it down into different categories and really take the study of it seriously otherwise you'll be like every other guy. You'll get some results sometimes and sometimes not. If you know that now you can reliably get x number of dates with girls that are X level of attractiveness and have relationships with them that last X amount of time then it's much easier to track your progress and how far you still are from where you wanna be.

Do you have some sort of valuable product already? Why would he offer to build you anything if you don't have something yet? I would highly advise building something yourself first and being familiar with your niche and market so you know what is a good deal and makes sense vs what is a scam. If you don't know anything and don't have a base for yourself first it's basically guaranteed you're gonna get ripped off. Think of musical artists or onlyfans girls with no leverage for themselves. Hard to say beyond that.

Welcome to the information age, what makes you think you own your data? Perhaps an individual company/service can be nice enough to give you control of it but all the services you use collect and store your data and you have no legal claim over it. Good thing people are fighting against that but it'll get even bigger and it is what it is for now.

I think a lot of BDSM requires more consciousness and self-development than the average sex. I would consider it stage green/yellow sex since it requires a lot of trust and communication skills as well as a dropping of the ego and a return more animalistic pleasures.

That's not at all what that implies, it's a correlation, not causation. Meaning that there could be like @something_else pointed out religious coercion to not get divorced or my favorite explanation being that it leaves you with more options so you're more inclined to get out of a stale/toxic relationship. There is also the point that it's actually irrelevant if it's better or not, you are entitled to autonomy and to make your own decisions. I can't barge into your house and stop you from drinking a beer even if maybe hypothetically it'd be better if you didn't.

@StarStruck I guess we're gonna find out who's valuable and who's not. I think Youtubers will on the contrary gain a lot from this, it's a job that heavily relies on both creativity and the tedious job of having to learn video editing and doing it over and over. If they can narrate to the AI the kind of video they want and how they want it edited then it reduces their workload by over 50%.

@Ulax I mean if you allow me to argue that point, you have to take subjectivity on good faith at a certain point. If someone has an agreed upon and logical definition then you can say nothing is defined and you can use whatever definition you want but I'd say that's just bad faith epistemology.

@StarStruck What is LOC?

Multiple wives is a great ambition, I'm surprised not many men share it. I am on that quest as well, let's see how it goes. Three bisexual 24/7 bdsm slave wives is my ultimate fantasy, let's see how close I get. @Ulax How do you disagree? And as interesting as the concept is, I don't think I could hook up with a man. It's a bit too metaphysical for me right now.

Attracting a partner to you enough that they wanna spend time with you and call you their bf/gf is just the first step. Interlacing your lives together to be productive and healthy while growing up and probably bringing children into this world is a whole other thing. It's basically a business partnership. Similar to the difference between being friends with someone and starting a business together. All the lack of self-development, trauma, limiting beliefs, ideology, etc that you have deep inside you will come out and so will your partners. If you already understand that this will happen and have already spent years fixing this in yourself then not only are you starting from a better point but you know that it will come and will be ready for it. Regular people that just get into relationships do not understand this and think they can just figure it out and love each other, that's their paradigm. That's basically suicide and why most relationships end up toxic, not working out, or just stale. Its like thinkingg you can start a business without knowing anything about it nor even knowing that you can even get mentors/books that will teach you and then betting your financial future on it. You're gonna end up homeless. That's the naive view of it. When you're on dates with girls/friends with girls/at the club talk to girls about their lives. Talk to them about all their male friends that tried to sleep with them when they were sad/drunk. Talk to them about all the creepy stuff/sexual abuse that they've had to endure. Talk to them about that time they were broke and then their male bff offered to help them out if she would suck his dick. Or when they hit puberty and started showing curves how their step-parent and/or male relatives started treating them differently. Or that time they had a date with this guy that seemed interesting and then ended up drugging her. Of course, these are generalizations and don't necessarily happen to every girl but it does happen to a majority. That is the reality of being a high-value human by default, you become an objectified commodity that other humans fight over. I know of at least 3 girls in modern, first-world, safe cities that almost ended up getting trafficked. There is also the other side of the coin with girls that are not attractive/disabled/live in a 3rd world country and have to deal with all of this on TOP of not getting the positive perks of being a hot girl. As a man as long as you're not lazy or delusional you can work and get anything and basically become a living God that gets anything he wants. That is how you appreciate it; you realize that your masculine drive is basically the human version of infinite divine creation. And when you're able to tap into that the women in your lives really start to appreciate it and basically look up to you as a God. I would never trade that for an easy basic relationship or getting free drinks at the bar, are you crazy?

@Danioover9000 Doubt there's a legitimate reason for it, usually, these ideologies are conscious enough to be based on rationality; it's' generally just superstition. I wonder if this could lead Bali to be a bit more sovereign politically as they're generally much more liberal than mainland Indonesia AFAIK. I think perhaps some of it has to do with sexpats/sex tourism, I doubt that the local men are generally fond of this concept. It's interesting how the law is being written though, someone related to you has to report you for it to be considered a crime. So if tourists fuck it's fine and if you fuck a local whose family approves of it it's also fine. It hinders LGBTQ relationships too, as long as their family are disapproving of it. It's like community policing which I don't know if it's good or bad.