Enlightenment

https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL3JlZGVlbWluZ2Rpc29yZGVyLmxpYnN5bi5jb20vcnNz/episode/aHR0cHM6Ly9waW5lY2FzdC5jb20vZ3VpZC84MDczZDRhYS00YjdkLTQ3N2MtYjVmZC04NGUwMDIzYWYzZDE?hl=da&ved=2ahUKEwjiooyOldXqAhVClYsKHf18CL0QieUEegQIChAE&ep=6 3:30:00 Host: It seems from where I'm sitting that there are certain experiences that are possible with psychedelics that aren't necessarily possible without psychedelics so maybe it takes you to high highs that then you know exists and there's value in that right? Daniel Ingram: Yea no question

You can't be sure it's forever What were your daily symptoms?

To me what you're talking about are states of meditation which Wilber describes here turyia is also known as The Witness From The Mind Illuminated: Kenneth Folk here talks about the Witness and later also about this next stage turiatita Here Ken Wilber is probably entering the same states in meditation Those are powerful meditative states but it's not like Location 4/enlightemnent which you are all the time once you shift and it's independent of whether you meditate or not He is very attached to these Buddhist maps, he tries to match every experience to where it's on the map

IDK what you mean by 'regular nirvana' Location 4 at the end of the article http://www.nonsymbolic.org/PNSE-Article.pdf describes my experience with a caveat that 'no emotions' doesn't actually mean not having emotions but experiencing them fundamentally different, not like a classic human emotional experience And yes I'm 100% sure about it

I'm in a permanent no center to experience non-dual state and breakthrough on DPT or 5-MeO is very very different from my normal state which is definitely different than a 'normal' human state. I haven't done radical experiments like Leo but even my first big very large dose DPT trip was more radical than everything ever before.

I'm curious too After listening to the whole podcast I highly doubt it. He calls 5-MeO experiences people have are like arising and passing away just LOL Here He describes his most or one of the most powerful experiences sober. Powerful but I don't think he entered the solipsistic Godhead, he talks all about visuals. I suspect he took like 150ug of LSD once or twice and this is what shaped his view of psychedelics. Will he do 5-MeO eventually? shall we see

Sometimes you are trying to debunk logic using logical arguments. How do you reconcile that?

Have you read any of Bernardo Kastrup's books? His view is very similar to yours. Is there anything you don't agree with him?

Ok so I did some research and yes it seems like Sam only had temporary experiences of no-self. What he meant is that when he looks for a self, he can't find it. Even in his latest 5g mushroom trip he intentionally tried to 'cut through the sense of self' This is really surprising for me that 2 years of meditation retreats didn't do it for him, but it only further validates the point that finding your meditation fit is the key

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Frank didn't say that, but I asked Frank in yt comments and he confirmed that he is in what Jeffery Martin calls Location 4. I don't remember the exact podcast but Sam Harris said he doesn't have any center to experience since he had his breakthrough on a retreat years ago, no-self and also this whole topic of no free will he is engaged in was by large motivated by the discovery of no sense of agency by him through meditation - sounds exactly like location 4 to me of course, I can't be 100% sure He has spent 2 years on silent retreats so it's very likely

I mostly agree with what he said. Psychedelics will not lead to significant 'permanent' shifts (99,999% chance). Psychedelics don't produce cessations, unlike meditation. Enlightenment to the complete loss of self, no agency mode is binary But he is deluded if he truly believes he is in the same state as the 5-MeO breakthrough cause as Leo said above, he would not be shooting a video on the 5-MeO breakthrough. 3 years is too long to clearly remember how it was, he needs to do high dose NOW. BTW Sam Harris is in the same state, notice how different he describes it

You are expecting too much from a book "Seeing That Frees" is great

He doesn't actually stop his brain waves tho or even if he does that device is not accurate enough to show it

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All of Leo's regular viewers are at least somewhat open-minded otherwise, they quit after the first radical statement.

They're not watching Leo's content either

@Leo Gura Brilliant video! I think your type of content attracts a lot of conspiracy theorists cause it takes open-mindedness to listen about you being god etc. Intelligent and close-minded = materialist scientist type = will not be interested in that type of content Stupid but open-minded = conspiracy theorist type Of course, I'm generalizing here but you get my point

You mean covid-19 is tested positive for Donald Trump

https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/j304td/analysis_of_trumps_tweets_shows_hes_sleeping_less/