James123

@Davino i tried, tried and tried to be present, and after 6 years realization happened that the "i" tried to be is the self. Deeply comprehending this is the breaking point of enlightenment. When trying drops, I am already.

@Davino do not try to be. You are already. Action comes from self. Effortlessness is Self.

Actually all I am saying that illusion, no illusion, duality or non duality, I or not I, anything you can imagine bad not imagine, arises and falls within You.

I is not only body or brain. İt is accumulation of everything you know or experience of.

Will you say, I am God, or I am infinite, or I am everything? And when death sweeps you away, will you still be able to hold on?

How old are you?

you are assuming the innocent baby and it's dependence, and animals, trees, or ocean. you can say, if body doesn't breath, it dies. Yes. If there is no trees, no oxygen. So body even depends on the nature, water, etc... So, The body and environment is together. Not separate. When recognition happens of above. There is no separation, just the moment. Therefore, no more assumption or beliefs. Body thinks, moves, trees crates oxygen, sun creates lif form, heart beats etc... So, just lie back, you don't even need to watch. Just let arises and falls. Fall deepest, fall greatest. And realize You are always the bottom.

The real question is, how do you know it is a chicken or tomato soup? When you say, because it is make out of chicken or tomato. That's naming and labeling. All i am saying is there no free will nor controller. Duality and non duality or thoughts and feelings arises within You, life happens trough You. But, You are none, unnamable. Just lie back, you can't change anything.

Do not name and label anything, and see.

"You know this" is just what is. İf you name and label, it becomes a belief. Which is Iman illusion, such as there is a me and that me knows.

Life happens trough You yet no control whatsoever. Body is perfect with moment. And independent. Best Regards,

Body is alive not you. Most of the part I agree yet body, universe etc... arises and falls within You.

No control whatsoever. As physical birth, death, breathing, heart beat, even thinking, you can't even control. Try to control thinking and see if you can.

Don't believe.

The dream is for the body. Not for You.

What is real? Or who feels it as real? What if, birth is just a word, but has no actual action?

What if, journey never began?

Amazing. I would like to add something, I is the biggest belief. And everytime you have deep sleep, that's literally death. Only difference is surrendering the body.

you ask and get an answer back. That's all.

Body does. There is no doer. Yet, it is programmed to 10% of survival (only eating, sleeping, drinking water in order to function). Yet, reflection of empty body is love or shining the Truth.

When you vanish, Self is always there yet, thoughts appears and disseappears, as body and universe. Because of love. Body is it's own. Body does what it is supposed to do. You remain untouched, and rest as always.

Paradoxlly, when you try find that you, which can not be find: you vanish.

Exactly. Body doesn't need you.

Explain how you exactly do it? Or your breath every moment, are you aware? Or your liver function

Find out how can you even move your hand. How do you do it. Then done.