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Imo, logical framework or mind is needed to surrendering or putting entire Trust in Truth, God or Allah. And rest is surrendering that mind. And just let It take over.

'i" can not imagine the abandonment of all the terms or mind. 😊 Love you my brother.

Imagine, body and mind with working it's own. There is no need to control whatsoever. Moreover, you is vanished. How can be more resting than this? 😊

When freedom comes self protection / ego / mind works against it inevitably. Because, it all purpose is to control therefore limitation.

Solipsism actually very great imagination and funny. Such as imagining the god have a mind like so called human beings, and thinking like so called human beings, and realizing that god realized that he is all alone. 😊

I was a super sensitive person. Whatever happened to me was I suffered a lot and gave up. Meanwhile, that I was all accumulation of thoughts and never there. Body and mind was always it's own. Moreover, you can be still and watching, and at the same time let body and mind work together. Therefore , I am on the forum. Because, literally body and mind works with harmony and love. Therefore, helping to others, not only people, animals, trees etc.. , sharing, caring is inevitable. Many people says that reason of enlightenment is recognition of what You really are, meanwhile You are always what You are, therefore You can not recognize what You are, only be. Because of that, reason of enlightenment is Love. Direct seeing that every thing is made out of Being. You shine on all, not you as body or mind. But, all our essence is identical. Just body and mind a tool to communicate, share, care, hug, cry and Love.

There comes a point on the path where awareness no longer feels like an effort. At first, we try to “return” to being present, to bring ourselves back from thought. But gradually, it becomes natural, as simple as breathing. Even when the mind races, the moment awareness shines on it, thoughts dissolve like mist before the sun. The key is surrender. Instead of trying to control the mind or force stillness, one lies back within. The body knows how to move, breathe, act. The mind knows how to think, create, resolve. But none of this needs a separate “me” to manage it. When the illusion of control is released, body and mind reveal their own intelligence. Resting in this way is not laziness; it is the deepest trust. The body cleans the house, speaks, or walks without strain. The mind brings thoughts without clinging. Life flows on its own. What remains is a peace beyond effort, beyond struggle. Ego thrives on tension, on resistance, on the feeling of “I must.” But resting is so sweet, so natural, that the ego loses its grip. There is no room for aggression, hype, or conflict when everything is already unfolding harmoniously. This surrender is not only for oneself. It is for family, for society. A person without the burden of “me” lives in gentleness, openness, and love. The absence of control reveals a presence that is more caring, more peaceful, and more human than any ego could ever create. Best Regards,

It is actually watching the movie (which is made out of you) trough the body. Body and mind works with perfect harmony and beauty. You rest. 😊

Hey my brother. I think, Bruce Lee and Jerry June do philosophy is different ways of surrendering, however they all point out to surrendering in different ways. Because, what will or can achieve?

Just look at the mirror my brother. And say above you said over and over again. You have a good soul.

The observer is observed. Then the witness or person or ego disseappears.

Who is exactly that "somebody"?

Exactly 💯. No. Knowledge to absence of grasping to knowledge. Just using as a tool to communicate.

Where there is the "me" and the "you", conflict exist. Hatred is born in division. Love flowers only in the absence of the "you" that separates itself from life. God is not a belief but that immensity which is present when the self is absent. The fight is not really between you and God. It is between your ego and your own heart. Hatred is the language of the ego; Love is the fragrance of God. The moment you drop the "you", God is revealed as your own being and only Love remains. With Love,

Exactly 💯

Just lie back and watch these thoughts.

So, Be a bee and make honey from the flowers.

and think over and over again. No self, enlightenment, solipsism, God, infinite, past, future, duality, nothingness or nothing, non duality, your past, future or now experiences, body, life, heaven, hell, neo Adviata, you and me etc... Think as you writing to someone in the forum. Think over and over again. What do you see on your head? Do you see any thoughts there?

All was only to reach You, This world was never for staying, but for burning, My right hand rose to heaven, my left touched the earth, I turned, The Truth was in the heart, And life revealed itself in the heart...

Moreover, Ramana Maharshi “The mind says ‘I am,’ and thinks the world is separate. But when the ‘I’ is known as the Self, the world is not separate; it is the same Self appearing in many forms.” Papaji “There is no ‘other’ and no ‘me’ in reality. The mind imagines duality. When you see this, all solipsism disappears—it is only a mental play.” Krishnamurti “Solipsism is the ego pretending the world exists only as its idea. Freedom is to see life as it is, not as a projection of the self.” Osho “Solipsism is the last trick of the ego: ‘Only I exist.’ When ego dies, only existence remains, and life flows through all forms. Then you are neither alone nor separate.” Rumi “Who thinks ‘I alone am’? All is God’s play. The soul is the witness; the self is the drop in the ocean. Solipsism is forgetting the ocean.” Ibn Arabi “All that appears as ‘I’ and ‘other’ is the manifestation of the One. Those who cling to ‘I’ alone see only a shadow. Reality is the One revealing itself in multiplicity.” Imam Ghazali “Whoever thinks only of his own existence ignores the signs of Allah in creation. True knowledge is witnessing the unity of all being in God.” Prophet Muhammad “None of you lives for himself alone; and none dies for himself alone.” (Qur’an 4:78, 6:164) Jesus “Apart from me you can do nothing, and I am not alone; the Father is with me and in you.” (John 15:5, 14:10) Yunus Emre “I am nothing, You are all. Whoever sees only ‘I’ has closed the door. Open it with Love.” Solipsism (Ego Illusion) Mind says: “I alone exist.” Feeling: Separate, isolated, controlling, fearful or superior. Manifestation: Life is a projection of “my” thoughts. Teachers’ warnings: Ramana: world appears separate. Papaji: duality is imagined. Krishnamurti: ego creates a false private world. Osho: “Only I exist” is the last trick of ego. Rumi: forgetting the ocean; seeing only the drop. Ibn Arabi: cling to “I,” see only shadow. Imam Ghazali: ignoring the signs of God in creation. Muhammad ﷺ: none lives for himself alone. Jesus: apart from me, you can do nothing. Yunus Emre: seeing only “I” closes the door. Realized Awareness / Dissolution of Solipsism Nothing needs to be claimed; all flows. Feeling: Unity, openness, peace, effortless presence. Manifestation: Life flows through you naturally; you are witness and Self simultaneously. Teachers’ guidance: Ramana: world is same Self in many forms. Papaji: no “other,” no “me”; duality disappears. Krishnamurti: see life as it is, not as your projection. Osho: life flows through all forms; you are not alone. Rumi: the self is a drop in the ocean; God’s play is everything. Ibn Arabi: the One manifests in multiplicity. Imam Ghazali: witness unity in God. Muhammad ﷺ: live and die not for self alone. Jesus: the Father is with me and in you. Yunus Emre: open the heart; see beyond “I.” This shows the shift from ego centered solipsism to witnessing unity as described consistently across all masters. Best Regards, With Love,

Find out "who" says above.

Contemplate. Best Regards,

Look into the mirror and see how beautiful body is. Everything is perfectly placed, eyes, hair, legs, nose and each detail in harmony. Look at the body: it breathes on its own, pumps the heart without asking, lets the liver work without question. The mind says “I am in charge,” but when you look closely, you see it is not true. The body does not ask the mind for permission to beat the heart. Life flows by its own intelligence. Nothing is under control, yet everything moves flawlessly. Still, the mind whispers, “I am in charge,” and creates a false distinction. But this is the real nature of reality: not the ego’s illusion, but the Truth itself. Remember this always: every judgment, hatred, dislike, fear, separation, and negativity comes from the mind. They are born of the illusion "me" and “others.” Love, compassion, and unity flow naturally when you rest as the Truth. Because the Truth is not separate. It is the one reality in all beings. When you recognize this clearly, helping another is simply helping yourself. So in short, if there is separation as between wise and ignorant, that's the ego. İf there is just You. Then done.

The external entities such as the earth, and the personal entities such as the body, are unreal like the snake imagined on a rope or like dream, magic, etc., in accordance with the Vedic Text, "All modification exists only in name, having speech for its support", and the Self is that which exists within and without, that is birthless, without cause and effect, without any inside or outside, full, all-pervasive like space, subtle, motionless, attributeless, partless, and actionless, as is indicated in the Vedic Text, "That is truth, that is the Self, and That thou art", having seen, the Reality in this way, one should have one's delight only in the Self, and not in anything external like one lacking in realization, who accepts the mind as the Self, and thinks the Self to be changing in accordance with the changes of the mind, or at times accepts the body etc. to be the Self and thinks, "I am now alienated from Reality, that is the Self"; and when at times the mind becomes concentrated, who thinks himself to be united with Reality and in peace under the belief, "I am now identified with Reality". The knower of the Self should not be like that, because the nature of the Self is ever the same, and because it is impossible for anything to change its nature; and one should be forever unwavering from Reality, under the conviction, "I am Brahman", that is to say, he should ever have the consciousness of Reality that is the Self, in accordance with such Smrti texts as "The enlightened man views equally a dog or an outcast, "He who sees the supreme Lord existing equally in all beings". (Adi Shankara, Commentary on The Mandukya Upanishad) By @Joseph Maynor

@Mellowmarsh The external entities such as the earth, and the personal entities such as the body, are unreal like the snake imagined on a rope or like dream, magic, etc., in accordance with the Vedic Text, "All modification exists only in name, having speech for its support", and the Self is that which exists within and without, that is birthless, without cause and effect, without any inside or outside, full, all-pervasive like space, subtle, motionless, attributeless, partless, and actionless, as is indicated in the Vedic Text, "That is truth, that is the Self, and That thou art", having seen, the Reality in this way, one should have one's delight only in the Self, and not in anything external like one lacking in realization, who accepts the mind as the Self, and thinks the Self to be changing in accordance with the changes of the mind, or at times accepts the body etc. to be the Self and thinks, "I am now alienated from Reality, that is the Self"; and when at times the mind becomes concentrated, who thinks himself to be united with Reality and in peace under the belief, "I am now identified with Reality". The knower of the Self should not be like that, because the nature of the Self is ever the same, and because it is impossible for anything to change its nature; and one should be forever unwavering from Reality, under the conviction, "I am Brahman", that is to say, he should ever have the consciousness of Reality that is the Self, in accordance with such Smrti texts as "The enlightened man views equally a dog or an outcast, "He who sees the supreme Lord existing equally in all beings". (Adi Shankara, Commentary on The Mandukya Upanishad) By @Joseph Maynor