James123

Anytime brother?

@electroBeam there is no reality. If there is no thoughts, what is left? You think you are in world right now? There is no why, because why comes from so called monkey mind. Lastly, when you realize there is no monkey mind, you realize you have never born, if you never born what is left? Where is the reincarnation? Additionally, these are not personal, because person is constructed by the monkey mind. You must have direct experience of what is left after there is no monkey mind, which is experiencing before birth. Because your so called monkey mind (thought process) started your birth. Thats why you don’t remember before birth. How do you know that this is a body? What is god? If there is no monkey mind, what is left to ask? You must have direct experience of what is left after there is no monkey mind, which is experiencing before birth. Because your so called monkey mind (thought process) started your birth. Thats why you dont remember before birth. Because there is no mind. Process of thoughts is what creates distinctions, duality and birth. If there is no monkey mind, what is left? Whatever left is what you are. So simple. Additionally, this is the main problem with psychedelics, because so called mind or a person can never get this no observer, nothing to observe or pure presence. Because still a thought process is going on. And after the trip mind will think that it will reach at higher consciousness and still questions rise, why, how vs? So thought process still goes on, whatever the trip you have experienced and can never be able to comprehend it that it is now. Imo, Mind can never comprehend this while thought process goes on, therefore psychedelics are ineffective for awakening. However, in regular awakening, you can directly become conscious of it with no thoughts. Because at that moment you realize that everything was just a process of thoughts (entire duality). Such as the person, who consumed 5meo and experience a trip was a just a thought process, never happened. Therefore, not knowing take place as before birth, mind become silent, question doesn’t rises and become one with moment as before birth, after death and now. As always been. This is the another main problem, psychedelics gives mesmerizing affects, or something fantastic during the trip till you become nothing (which is end of the road). And you can %90 lost your track during the awakening process because when you return the regular mind you are mesmerized by it, and you will try to get back that perspective again. Because whatever you explain of the above it is just a word, drinking water has no differences than consuming 5meo. However when you are awaken without psychedelics and you forget everything that you have learned, and there is just no one to think, talk and conceptualize. (What is thinking, conceptualizing, talking, seeing, awakening, me, god, learning What is what?, are they words, or visuals? Where do they come from? How can we take the knowledge as grounded, truth or real? What is grounded, truth or real? How can you even know that understanding is possible, what is understanding?) So you realize that you have never born, birth was just a thought of monkey mind, and if there is no monkey mind, what is left? Just you. But you cant even say me, because there is no monkey mind, and “me” is just a word. Therefore, Monkey mind becomes quite and you are before birth, pure and empty. (but pure and empty is still a word, therefore you can say as genuinely not knowing, because mind is created by something that you have learned or know, it keeps wonder think and learn). Genuinely now knowing. Surrendering the mind is must. Definitely ?

“Die before you die”. After that you can realize that which hadits are written for ego and real you. Quran can never be comprehend by regular mind. You can just read it , but not understand it. Peace!

Thanks brother you are good person too. I am just trying to help, you know. I just want to ask you, how do you even know you are experiencing now? What is experiencing? Such as where is your monkey mind?

It has no name brother, it is you, forget everything you know thats what is it. Nothing, singularity, emptiness still just a word. Just look at the wall and dont think anything, thats what is it.

Of course, you are right. But these are my observations from the people, who are in the form. And most of them stuck in this process. Just trying to help. Definitely, I support psychedelics, however but mostly people depend on psychedelics and think that realized awakening with psychedelics in the form. Otherwise psychedelics are great tools to improve spiritual work. Encouraging %80 of the time psychedelics will mislead many people. Imo, Because thoughts never let you comprehend before the birth, singularity, pure and empty, therefore awakening. Can you please explain?

Wait to become that infinite and after that you will become singularity, just nothing. Before big bang. You wont even remember what is infinite, any of these sentences. Deepest sleep. No thoughts whatsoever. Thats why you are dreaming now.

Yea? Maybe i have lost everything and I accept what i am? Because nothing is absolute and pure.

Not true. Awakening is what you were before your so called birth, which is now. Brother these stuff you have learned, sensed, felt or experienced . Please, realize why you dont remember before birth, and talk.

@abrakamowse anytime brother!

@Javfly33 @Adamq8 If you never learn nothing never happens. Thats why your thoughts process shape your so called world. Named, labeled and out meaning on everything. Where is your monkey mind? Can you see when you think?

How do you know something is created in the first place? Where is it arising? Can you see? Or does eyes see anything? Is there any eye? What is an eye?

If i show you the color blue, and you dont know it how can you thats blue? If no one tell you that you are alive, and this is a world. Can you be alive in the world? Because of thoughts, you name and label it. Shape is shape from the way you have learned it. If you dont know what is shape, how can you recognize it? If you never know and learn anything, what can you be?

Why do you need to be scare of the horror? Just love it. Because you learned that you must be scared of it?

Do 10 gr dried shrooms and you would appreciate to 5 meo?after the trip i was a completely different person (%50)with %50different habits. Lol ? but even if you do experience with psychedelics , you still have a thought process, and you will “think” that you are awaken, because still “think” but not. So you will be stuck in that process for decades or entire your life. Thats it. ? ?

Leo can really help to people to improve their spiritual progress with recommending using psychedelics or his teachings, however the main problem is you will be stuck in the his wonderland, and as trying to have infinite mind, love or intelligence. Ego wants have something higher than itself, so awakening comes from completely letting go and surrendering. Meanwhile you are trying to reach or have something better than your current situation. And when you experience that awakening those all that infiniteness will crash into singularity , will be just nothing. Before big bang, thats what you are. Thats why awakening is completely letting go and surrendering whatever you have. Thats why people love to use psychedelics and stay in the wonderland. What is before birth, thats what you are.

If you go deeper that infinite will crash into singularity, just nothing, empty and pure. ?thats my favorite ???

Thats why meditation and silence mind is the key brother. After Infinite nothingness will be just a singularity, which is before the big bang. Just nothing , pure and empty? but is you, love it?

Thanks brother. I will check it out. Much love and respect ? You still have self for you, but there is no self. If there was no self for you, you wouldn’t be questioning. Everything is you, because you are nothing. This is death brother, now is death, there is no brushing teeth or brushing teeth is identical with birth. Brother, You still name and label the words, these are not even words. Thats why you asking that how can I brush my teeth? But you think it is a word, therefore you are questioning that how can i brush my teeth? Your birth, body, universe, just is a thought. Thats why i am saying, get awaken, than you will thank to me, which is yourself.?

It is identical for me, but not for you. Being silent, barking, writing has no differences than each other, because they are nothing. But you still naming and labeling therefore, you think is being nothing is being silent, thats not true. Therefore you need a awakening. For me whatever you is nothing or awakening for you there is a still thought process, which comes with naming and labeling so still differences or dualities. As Osho said, it is just a game for me, but it can be death or life for you. Of course, there is no need for me to explain these any of you, but you are me and you are suffering. These sentences are not for me, they are for you. There is no such a thing as awakening or duality for me, because no self, however awakening is still goes for you, because you still have a self. It is different for you, but identical for me. But i am you, therefore helping you to get it, and stop you from suffering.

There is no thinking, thoughts are me. Imo, Get awaken first, so read it instead of judging.

What is this mean brother? Not debating, helping myself to explain what is the truth. As helping you or entire form. Why you are here, you want to be awaken, so read it, or leave it. By the way these are not sentences or conversation, they are you, not only leo.

Because You are created by of the process of thoughts. Only when you dont think, you can be nothing, pure and empty. Thats why no one is there, which is equal to moment of genuinely not knowing or forgetting everything. You still think that no one is there, thats why you cant be. Embody infinite mean is let go the self, you must be afraid when you realize there is no one. Because you are still stuck in process of thoughts. You are just a thought. Let it go.

Surrender the self, embody infinite and after that be nothing, singularity, pure and empty.

@Breakingthewall go deeper till no one left to talk.