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It makes sense, yes... I understand your words and what you are trying to explain, I have to find a way for seeing that and I am not sure how. I think that if I "do nothing", if I try to observe without labels and judgments I will be able to see...

I am working on noting the false idea of time (I am not sure how to write it hehehe.... ) but I also noticed that desire causes also the idea of time. When you desire something and you don't get it, you think you will get it in the future. Does this make any sense?

Thanks @Faceless too much wisdom in this thread. :-)

Thanks @dharm4 What you say really resonates deeply in me! Appreciated!

@RichardYYou have a voice in your head that it says: "You have a voice inside your head? What does it say?"

I think anything you do to tell him about how you feel and to let him know that what he's doing is not Ok is Good for you. This must the first step, if he understand and stops... that's great... if not, you will need a plan B. But focus first in this first step. :-)

Very true!

hahahaha... who knows? Maybe partying so hard they realize the thruth... I was one of them too. There was a time where I went out to dancing every day of the week Lol....

That's a powerful insight. It's very true... what we need to learn is to see the subtle, pay attention to those things the ego dismiss as boring...

It is, for sure... just keep meditating.

The answer to your problem is to see who has it. ---- Ramana Maharshi

http://www.headless.org/

hahaha... thank you! I like to talk to you too... you are smarter!!! My ego is much smaller than yours!!! hahaha...

I have to delete the hard drive, format it and install a new operating system.

I think I did the wrong question. I was trying to find out what is or who is the one that creates the thoughts. I perceive them, I just see them appear. But now I see that thoughts appears in me, because I AM. So in some sense I AM (awareness) creating them, but the ego (the idea of what I THINK I am) doesn't have any control on them. Awareness allows thought to be created, but is not the creator and is not the chooser, is the observer.

@cetus56 and @Faceless explain to @Ether about who is doing the decision... I don't have that so clear. :-) Thanks!

Well, that part maybe @Faceless can give us some help Lol... I am still investigating that, because there's people that says that thoughts only appear in awareness. And that's all.... like the rain which falls from the sky. Thoughts are like rain. I have to go, I will write again later!

Ether! You did awesome progress!!! It took me years to accept that. There's two points of view in reality. One is from the ego, the other is from awareness. When you talk from the ego point of view, that pov is false. The real pov is awareness. You are not in a body, the body is in you!!!!

That's very good! If you are not your thoughts, you are awareness which observes the thoughts. But when awareness gets involved in the thoughts, when it attaches to the thoughts it believes that is a person, but... it is not a person!!!

Who is the one who decides? Isn't that another thought? How is the process of deciding? Is there a "chooser"???

Pay attention to that... you don't have any control. I am not typing this, it's a kind of "program" called ego that runs by itself. thoughts make everything. How do you know you are jumping? When you want to jump a thought appears and say jump!... is you who jump or is the thought that is telling you to jump? Are the thoughts created by you? If that is so, tell me if you can predict what you next thought will be.

No, there's a body. But the body is not separated from the universe, from the environment. The ego creates de idea that this body is "mine" and there's a body which is owned by other person. Now I have to defend myself from the other who can harm me, etc etc... the body is not the "self"... your Self transcends the body. You impose a limitation yourself by thinking "I am the body" "I am a person", etc... The physical world is there, but the ideas and concepts about it are not true and are created by thought.