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I don't think there's a panic attack and an awakening being resisted. How do you know what's the difference between both? The only thing I know is that awakening is the most important thing to "achieve" in life. So everything can be leading you to it. Those panics attacks must be a rejection of the reality the way it is, and your reaction is a panic attack. (I had panic attacks too). Panic attack, depression, sadness... all those things leads us to an awakening, because we resist "what is" because we think that what is happening is wrong and we get sad because things don't go "our way". Until to a point where the suffering is so big that we begin to see more clearly what reality is and accept the things the way they are. We begin to leave our ego aside, we begin to deny ourselves (our ego) because the suffering is so much. It's a process that leads us to enlightenment at some point. How long it will take it depends on us.

It doesn't drop, because the idea that there's someone who wants to achieve enlightenment goes against enlightenment. The idea that you want to become enlightened is what avoids enlightenment to happen. It's very tricky. That's why Alan Watts said that becoming enlightened is like "biting your own teeth" How can you leave your identity behind when you continue to attach labels to a construct of self?

That's really very plausible....

The problem with that is that there's not an objetive perspective. Everything you say will be relative to your point of view and beliefs. If you talk from an "ego" point of view you will see the objects with an independent nature and that they are separated and different from us. But if you see it from a more holistic perspective, you will notice that in fact that "separated nature" is just a concept. It's not true. You don't experience any object. You have "seen" something, colors, whatever... that your brain interprets as an object, but it can be anything. But, I know what are you trying to do. Ok.

So, your experiment is to make us believe in what our thoughts say about our senses? The idea is to believe in materialism? I don't get where you want to go with all this.

I suggest you to watch the video and make that question yourself. It doesn't matter what I mean. The important thing is what you think....

How do you get a tree from a seed? Was the tree always inside the seed?

You are asking the wrong question. You didn't find out where is the separation. If there's no separation the egg was always there.

I wonder what you mean, when you use the word "I"

But what happens if there's no actual separation? The chicken is just an idea, a perception. A false perception that make you see the chicken as a separated entity from you. If you think you are a body and all the concepts created by the mind real, then you are not the chicken. You are confusing consciousness with the limited consciousness that there's in a body. But is that all you are? How does the external world influence in you? Can you live without breathing air? Is air a part of you, or something separated?...

Show me the separation between you and the chicken. Where is that separation?

Awesome @Genghis Khan !!! I almost cried reading your post. Thanks a lot for sharing!!!

It's not people with no selves. It's people with no "False Selves". They have a Self and that Self is only one, that's God. Evil create the false selves and is the one that makes us think we are "like God". The Devil said that we were going to be "like God". Jesus said, "we are Gods". Quoting the Psalm.

I say there's and there's no free will Both things are true, depending from what perspective are you talking about it.

That's the problem, you can't do nothing. The only thing you can do is to prepare your mind for the moment when you are ready to have a "revelation" or an "epiphany". But is not something you "do". Check Alan Watts videos on youtube. He explains that very well.

I don't agree with that. Jesus also said that "We are Gods". There's an explanation from mainstream Christians (I consider myself a Christian but I don't feel identified with any church or religion, I am only a Christ follower). In my interpretation, what we are now is what the devil made us to be, or made us believe that we are. We are now believing that we are Gods, because we think that we are the ones who think, we don't owe anything to any God, there's no God, we are independent, we can do whatever we want, and if things don't go our way we can change nature and so on... what we are now is the reason why the Devil was thrown away from the Garden of Eden. When we realized that We are not that "ego-god" created by the devil, and that our true nature is as Jesus said God, that's when we become one with God as Jesus Christ. As Jesus said in John 14:20 "On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you." We are all one thing.

We have to accept happiness and sadness to be really free. If we look to scape from reality we will never be able to be free.

Will do!

Interesting....

I don't know how to do it. I will be stuck inside of this bag of meat thinking I am an ego.

I find meditation useful if you do it to slow thought, and to recognize the difference between thought and direct experience. Meditation calms the mind and help to notice those subtleties that otherwise would be unnoticed. It is needed also self inquiry into the nature of reality.

True hehehe ?