Aakash

Lololol so many new egos created in one thread. Ideology is egos best friend whether it’s for or against what is said

Your physical body is an antenna for what ever metaphysical knowledge you hold. This is why integration is so difficult. Your changing old ego for new better egos as mechanisms to survive. Ofcourse enlightenment is no ego, so the egos aren’t important to them.

@Schahin I agree with what you’ve said. However, I would ad that anxieties, phobias, And schizophrenia are not rooted in the physical brain. It’s actually the responses that are chemical responses that are embedded into physical memory. The human body can not distinguish between the dangers of fire and the dangers of falling from heights. Your ego itself is what causes mental illness. Let’s say you told a person they have Parkinson’s, their ego will then coopt an ego around Parkinson’s. Similarly let’s say this person then starts to develop chronic depression. A seperate ego will be created for this. Change will cause a state of consciousness change. However, I’m not entirely convinced it will get rid of the issue. To get rid of it you would have to dissolve the ego’s individually. Non duality is such treatment. Thereby reducing internal conflict and stabilising in a higher consciousness. But how does one get rid of the ego itself. In my opinion it’s correction of meta knowledge which initially got you to pick up the idea itself. The second step would be to do the consciousness work and hope for the best. This will reprogram your meta knowledge. There are still enlightened beings that are socially incapable. Therefore it’s fairly accurate to say that the ego of the individual is still active in such humans. But their dis-identification, and absorption in absolute consciousness makes it totally irrelevant.

@Inliytened1 Lololol yes I will never understand god, I’ve spent so long in my metaphysical world. It’s difficult to give it up without completing it. Too bad it’s not completable. I guess some things will just be left a magical mystery. @Mu_ looks like it’s chicken for breakfast tomorrow

@Keyhole yup i agree,

@zeroISinfinity lol I deserved that one @DrewNows I don’t actually know man ? I don’t know ?

Yes this would be the case imo. In my analysis, I have yet to understand what level the physical world plays in all this. I’ve taken many different stances. A) does the idea itself make it happen , the follow up question is how dangerous is misdiagnosis b) is it a belief problem or biologically ingrained c) how much has general science construed the understanding of this d) are they all solvable e) what are the boundaries that define mental health. For example autism, itself some can be fixed by rehabilitating an individuals meta-knowledge. But general school education does not teach this. F) does the individual imagine it or does god imagine it for you G) to what extent does medication work Anyways you get the point, but the conclusion I have drawn is that even enlightenment does not solve these issues. Therefore, by default it’s best to go with textbook science and proven clinical trials in the short term approach. Also I would add that if physicality holds true then yes it is possible for there to be a problem before taking drugs and would have progressed eventually. Onset times vary for individuals. So yes the individual will say it’s because of the drug if that’s where their reference point of their life changing occurred. Which is misleading itself.

Fuck this, my own curiosity is literally destroying my own knowledge structures. It’s constantly recalibrating. I think enlightenment what ever the hell it is, is the only way to end this. What my problem is: is this simple fact. What is the truth. The end.

@DrewNows ?? I’ve got goosebumps already

@Shadowraix that’s actually a great way to put it ??

@Preetom ? yes you are right and I was wrong.

@DrewNows yes perhaps we are ? @Nahm shit now I’ll have to take that dare ? you can confer and lay it on me.

@Arhattobe LOL you might be right there ? I’ve just given up on it all together now. My own knowledge ends up destroying itself. Meaning I will never come up with a whole structural understanding of reality. Approximately speaking that is

I take back what I said, I’m probably bullshitting myself.

@Leo Gura I see, to be honest. before I signed on.. I lost track of my knowledge and thought how much the possibility of me bullshitting myself is. It’s quite high lol

@Mu_ to be honest I just made up the coral paradigm thing for lack of a better phrase for saying just “something that isn’t what you know” lol its simple, replay the whole event of the world from gods position through each paradigm and you will see the limitations of only viewing it from turquoise as absolute. You take god to be cheese when he is actually milk and yoghurt.

@Leo Gura okay I will refrain from starting a non dual debate using what is said here. Non duality is the absence of human ego. I agree with this. What I’m trying to argue here is that the “ego” which is understood to be a human does not actually exist. It is much deeper than that. From my point of view in my direct experience. The ego denoted in all the religious text is actually a facet of mechanism of god. It is the reason why animals have survival needs, why ideologies have survival needs. The commonality between all these egos as you’ve stated above “levels of consciousness” are their attempt to encapsulate reality into their own domain. However any paradigm is destroyed by Godel. Therefore, this would suggest that we are dealing with a universal ego or a god ego which is embedded into all of our realities, to sustain the imagination of the reality. As it must be. As a result, conscious states are defence mechanisms to stop GOD from reaching total enlightenment. These defence mechanisms are infact the facet of ego. My claim is that the absence of ego that non dualist experience is not complete ego dissolution. It is the mistaken teachings that the facet of ego implies implicitly to human ego. This is not the case, the inherit self deception of the mind, the lack of understanding of epistemology and the attempt to encapsulate reality all Help to cover it up. So to conclude: non duality is not the highest state of enlightenment. The absence of a human ego is NOT the absence of a universal god ego.

@Leo Gura i need to know so I can stop barking up the wrong tree and instigating conscious warfare making myself look silly. On behalf of all enlightened people on this forum. Is non dual consciousness or the current version of enlightenment that individuals experience only a state of ego, which they are unaware of ?

@Nahm nahm it was a metaphor lol, just ask him! What do you have to lose! Ask of a seperate thread “is my non dual consciousness an ego, I am not aware of?” What do you have to lose ?

@Jack River ahh dude, I don’t have answers to your questions. I’m not an expert ,hopefully it will make sense someday

@Nahm LOL as my ex used to say “within reason” and that means stage orange paradigm ?. Umm your god lol do you not trust god ?? ?? I have total confidence in my answer, to the point I’d jump off a cliff if I could prove it without dying. So I will do this dare lol!

Yes this is exactly what ego would say. I am not that which I am. This is an assumption, you’ve made with your being experience Yes and that includes your one. The assumption is that it’s totally non dual. Against the true self, of which your enlightenment is only a mere part that feels total The goose chase is only seeable when you aren’t in a paradigm.

@Jack River because you are in.a non dual state of consciousness. I am in a dual state of consciousness, in other words I have not experienced a total enlightenment for me to peg my awareness against. I’ve pretty much given up since non duality isn’t the highest and i have no intentions to go on a goose chase. And nope I haven’t even experienced enlightenment. I’m just saying that you guys haven’t either.

I’m not sure I can answer on their behalf, I am not enlightened. Hopefully someone will reply to you. Watch the video on sadhguru talking about hitler and watch his reply carefully.

@Jack River I’m at home in eternity lol