Aakash

@Leo Gura what is your stance on where the biggest trade offs should currently be made in the system of government and what parts should be helped immediately ? My opinion is that - government spending should be made more transparent (Ranging from 2-7% for now) - taxing should be increased on large scale online companies that are soley online - more funding should be given to the housing department for the projects - the government should invest in renewable energy for blocks around poor areas , to lower their energy bills. (Bit too far fetched realistically) - government should regulate Silicon Valley for their investments into tech start up firms - government should start up their own research branch into fields of interest. Rather than letting the university lead. I can actually think of 1000 different policies. But I’m asking more generally over the trade offs in areas of government than specific policies

@Serotoninluv the problem with enlightenment specifically eastern traditions is they assumed there was ever a human. Now can be defined against a timeline as you have mentioned. However instead of taking the incremental measurement of now being the inbetween-ness of past and future. And all-together illusory As you know. Now is as I like to put it a “1 term” ... 1 term that explains the whole of reality in 1 term. Void, everything, nothing, absolute infinity, buddha, Jesus, samadhi, light, black hole, etc etc ... if now was just one of these “1 terms” where would the now be ?

@Key Elements yeah we’re saying the same things but in different words. Yeah you’ve stabilised probably in omnisciency which is an amazing feat in my books by any standards. The only question really is how deep is your understanding, but this is irrelevant after a certain point because love will ultimately overpower it. Instead of needing to understand why things are the way they are. You will love it without condition and so yeah this is exactly what I expect nirvana to look like. It would indeed be complete free will. However it’s like I said mapping is not considered after this point, so from what I know. Sometimes consciousness comes down with a certain purpose for only a few people who need something done. The person is still given free will however, they are contracted to their purpose by receiving small doses of information at any one time. The free will is how they do it, however, I wouldn’t really call that free will. Mines was only an Infinitismal glimpse. So I can’t say I fully fathom what your saying. Nor am I justifying that I know anything about your “being” however, it’s certainly great life purpose. The exact one I would have chosen

@Key Elements one more thing, was it located above your head ? Like a few inches above your head. That’s where mines was. This part is what’s I called god consciousness, different to “phasing between reality” this is basically what I called omnisciency. However you had to also be aware of your metaknowledge which is in a realm different to your physical body. So you were 1) human thinking 2) metaknowledge processing 3) physical body 4) observer 5) only one in reality 6) making distinctions however, I feel like your talking about something different obviously. This is just as far as my direct experience goes. So I can only map until here.

@Key Elements it’s a choice, like I said. It’s nice to know you are motivated even at nirvana. Why I say it’s the latter and the former is because it’s like I said. No matter how hard you try, you can not collapse the trinity. It’s a choice one must make. “To love or not to love” , “to be love or not to be love” this is all three parts of the trinity . Yours is one version of nirvana aka the highest truth. Probably the best one that someone could follow, in my personal opinion. After this my knowledge and direct experience projections doesn’t extend past, so I’m unable to validate your claims of whether shinzen young was talking about the same thing leo was. Your going to have to get Leo to say why he thinks shinzen doesn’t understand the truth. If your saying shinzen knows exactly what you know. Then clearly I am also not understanding the full potential of truth. So it would be interesting to hear Leo’s reply. You’ve covered my only contradiction between teachers, even if there is still more width covered by Leo. Ultimately we are talking about depth

@Key Elements no love has nothing to do with nirvana. Love is only a distinction even if it feels real. This is how I would look at it the other way is to say that love itself is infinite, therefore your trying to give love to everything. Like an infinite core. Because if you have everything then what else would there be to do. I think it’s the former rather than latter the purpose of absolute infinity is to be itself. As we can’t fathom the scale of relativity that applies to being-being itself. We can apply this to ourselves being-being itself it’s no different. Which in other words means that the purpose of life is being done for you. Your life is the purpose of absolute infinity as the finite being. The only thing is just to decide what ever you want to do with it.

@Key Elements Nirvana is what I said. Absolute amnesia. You know how sadhguru always talks about memory. The only way a person could not exist is if they never had memory. This would extend to infinity and therefore would not contradict. So yeah it’s like I said. After you don’t phase in between. God itself has absolute amnesia because it is unconditional love of anything that takes place. But this is only an example. There would be no “you” or memory of “YOU”. So it’s all possibilities I’ve calculated taken care of.

@Key Elements yes I agree, but this can only seperate back into no self after you’ve figured out a structure for how you did it embedded within your “self” it’s more detailed for some and less for others. Which I assume is where different spiritual teachers are at and their enlightenment is. Yes and then after those two fuse you are both but inverted. Meaning you are actually neither, which I call “phasing between the molecules of reality” the molecules being “white hole” and “black hole” , “you” and “YOU” basically this is the only form of enlightenment that is total and includes infinitely more white holes/ black holes possibles, which is truth. Because they are one. Without you actually being there but being phased between all four things. Meaning its not that your nothing or everything. It’s that your all four things at once and therefore undifferentiated between all of existence. A wormhole back to the exestential non- Existence What has your experience been after this ?

@Key Elements yeah but what I mean is you split into two, you are watching your own story but it’s merely a snapshot because absolute truth is itself in the end and not “you” but it’s imposible to exclude your finite form from the equation. So you are both aware that it is you and it isn’t and then when that’s done you go back to fusing into nothing. But this doesn’t do it justice so I’m going to take some words from leo’s Book. Total undifferentiated infinity. To the point that your next move and current move are not happening. It’s permanent amnesia. At this point, from my perspective anyway. You are no longer human. All you would be is a “love being”. This is total ego loss in my opinion basically the scale is broken after this because there’s no way to actually rank infinity in total undifferentiated-ness and therefore can call it final form. Only from outside we can say it’s more loving etc, but it’s not while your inside, because you’ve disappeared into love itself. That it’s not you radiating the level of love but it’s been done for you. hence I said no free will

@Serotoninluv ??‍♂️ Infinity can only be infinite ahaha looks like you understood ? @Truth Addict I didn’t mean to get in the way of your EPIC debate! I’m not saying I agree or disagree with seratonin just admiring his creativity

@Key Elements if I’m right it should morph into “blindness” not absence of light from eyes. But absence of free will again. But this is dependant on what you, you were talking about above

@Key Elements yes these are my expectations. Except it doesn’t seem like you’ve understood how you made it all. Saying created by you , you mean big you then yeah that makes sense. You probably recreated distinctions right ? Which is what I thought would happen If I’m mistaken, then that’s all good. By my expectations it’s deep. You would just have to keep taking psychadelics to make it deeper. Then you’ll have a reference point to make it deeper. Relativity is an annoying thing lol, you can’t see any more steps ahead than you can relatively scale between two points of known limits.

@Preetom yeah even I’m growing tired of not being able to know absolute truth. Alright I guess that’s time then also I was talking about you as god not a seperate god

@system the same question goes to you, what happens when the thoughts are that from god himsel. Are they worth thinking or not and giving power to. (Your own personal authority)

@Preetom but one must ask himself, it is not okay for humans to think as it is not truth. What if god was himself the one thinking ? Was it truth or not ?

@Truthority the answer to the paradigm is to accept what ever happens sound familiar ? No fear of having a problem of fearing?

@Dan502 no people who don’t do spiritual practices have a limited view of reality and those who do spiritual practices and no contemplation have a limited view of reality. Theory is actuality when deemed actuality and actuality is deemed theory when it’s not actuality. See ?

@Truth Addict ? I never proclaimed to be god. I’m more like the prince of hell ?. The devil calling himself an angel. ??‍♂️. ? it’s like I said, I wonder if you think about it. What is there to reject when bones sediment and compress into fossil fuels. Do I really need proof other than that that were all one ?. It’s more like a dead man walking ??‍♂️instead of a hollow man walking. Authenticity ? No grounding in groundless-ness and therefore no decision making process from being paradigm-less . No redemption for dead men to infinity ⭕️. So yes, ? it includes you. This devil may only hate a handful of gods doing instead of a truckload of things. ? yes, it’s hard when you don’t accept your true self and care what others may think. But if it stops you selling love drugs. ? time to get on that train leaving platform 9 3/4 for a dose. Edit: plus I always wonder if it’s god loving itself unconditionally and others conditionally of that unconditional standards. That’s the epitome of devilry. But what happens when the standards are absolutely relative themselves?

I’ve changed my answer thought is never now and thought is precisely now. Which is more true depends on the position of ones journey. Overall it turns out thought is actually now lol

@Truth Addict I like what you said, but even animals will have meta knowledge that isn’t pertained in their physical body. Their metaknowledge is embedded in the infinite fractal of sound. We use a 26 letter alphAbet. The alphabet in my 2nd language uses around 35 letters, with many deviations. Totally around 80 single combinations. Frequencies of sound aren’t symbolic but even more direct than symbols themselves. Humans do it like this metaknowledge- speech - symbol - speech - metaknowledge this is language going from one person to another. For animals it’s metaknwledge - speech- speech - metaknowledge. This is why it makes it seem like they’re living in the present moment. There’s no symbolic language for them to feedback on. If the frequency doesn’t match the metaknowledge. Then no action is done between the animals. We use symbols to interject and match their understandings for ourselves. So what we can conclude is that animals do in fact have intellectual capabilities. They’re without symbols. Enlightenmrnt is about this detaching from symbols. So what your saying is you want no intellect capable of processing symbols but you will settle for better intellect. Have you ever consider that what your saying is actually devilry ? ??‍♂️ The devil doing devilry calling others devils ?

Lol the problem with truth is, everything is absolute truth. Therefore there is nothing to doubt. You can believe that if every possibility plays out. There is a multiple time lines of Earth, existing on multiple parallel universes, existing with multiple different “laws of nature” and you can be that the city of Atlantis Is real. If we’re talking about god here that is. If we’re talking about in our specific historical timeline and KNOWN historical period. Then it’s only a possibility of aliens existing, which is not plausible but neither complete y undeniable. Logically we’ve only discovered 5%-9% of the oceans depths. As light from the surface doesn’t penetrate. Oxygen aswell doesn’t synthesis because the ocean is a co2 containment unit. It provides planets with co2 to produce oxygen. Planets don’t photosynthesis at such depths and therefore less fish can live there. Our technology is also limited and if you look at historical maps, sea levels have risen a lot. It is not only continental drift and tectonic plate movement that causes land to reshape or reposition. It’s also flooded land from sea levels rising. Atlantis is a myth because sea- humans can’t exist. However aliens can. Considering human biases, it’s possible that underwater ancient civilisation caves were found and the myth got overdramatically emphasis with hyperbole. If this were true atlanteans wouldn’t even have to be aliens, they could be normal humans of ancient past, segregated by geographical location. Still within our time line I would say the probability of all this I’ve said being true is about 0.5-1% true.

@Mulky it’s abit of a stupid idea and highly inaccurate form of measurement with so many flaws. However, it’s possible that when you truth a statement that you don’t find truthful your body becomes heavy. I myself have noticed this and when you are grounded in non-duality. Your body is light. This is because of identification. Meaning a true statement which is false to you (relatively remember) makes your body heavy. A false statement which is actually true makes your body heavy. A false statement that is false makes your body light and a true statement that is true makes your body light. The body is nothing more than a vehicle for non-physical dimensions of reality. Reality is intertwined the reason this article statement is therefore true is because your beliefs which are misbelieved to be inside of your brain are not actually. Therefore your body is not reacting in chemical reaction based time line sequencing. I.e there is no delay. The responses are immediate. Meaning all it takes ever to measure LOC as a scientist is very accurate technology and psychological ego modelling theory, with mysticism. In other words to conclude: from a subjective ego POV - it sounds stupid from an objective non ego POV - it’s plausible and probably true. Any science to do with mysticism is ultimately true, because mysticism creates it itself. It’s not material based science. It’s possibility based science

? my whole problem with this journey is the part about becoming godly. I like yourself, come from a normal civilised family. Exerting pressure from such an unnecessary thing like becoming god is in itself a paradoxical form of love which is conditioned- unconditional. It comes from the fact they let me persue what I want freely and build my own building blocks. A contract bond that excludes becoming god based on principality. “I did not let you do what you want, so you could become a god which you are not” from my perspectival projection. Maybe it’s not what they’re thinking now. However, it would be what they would say in the future. “Why did you choose to do it, when we could have lived a normal life” , “why does it have to be you and not someone else” hence I rarely enter my non-dual form. Just like for 5 minutes a day to shift my reality to have an awakening and then reform duality solidly.

This all makes sense now, The correlation between an enlightened person and their level of understanding is their mastery it is not their mastery of consciousness, this is a misleading statement it is their teachings By my calculations, and understanding of absolute infinity, which is at this point quite extensive The only missing part is a full enlightenment I would confirm that leo has surpassed all other enlightened beings teachings with 100% certainty. What this pertains to is his teachings that relate to "understanding of truth" which translates to understanding of "consciousness" an ego is a heavily loaded term, the ego still exists in absolute infinity, it can not be removed. Nothing can be removed from absolute infinity because there is only absolute infinity and consciousness. There is also nothing that can be fininite or monopolised in absolute infinity , because this would limit infinity, which wouldn't make it infinite. Therefore, i am 1000% sure my understanding of absolute infinity is correct. Including the trinity. every prediction i've ever made except leo becoming the unpopular saint, because at the time i didn't realise that things organise at higher levels. What i'm saying is there is only one enlightened being with knowledge on par with leo's and i think that is sadhguru. There is an anomaly with his consciousness, on the lines of jesus consciousness. Lets put it this way, consciousness is a fractal. most of us have to work to have deeper and deeper consciousness fractal. What i'm saying is sadhguru is the deepest fractal born today. The reasoning behind this is because he has been gifted "inverse fractal consciousness" i would call it. where as we have "reverse fractal consciousness" we look into consciousness fractal to give answers, he looks out of fractal consciousness to give answers. Which is EXACTLY my point about stage dark (transcended turquoise SD)

@zeroISinfinity The miracle is that you get to experience more of your own self. Yes it’s like I said, it’s not that I worked for it. The divine knowledge just happened to come into my hands by chance. elsewhere to leo, it’s not like I deserved it realistically but I definitely earnt it slightly. The strange loop is leo’s and mode Incompleteness thereon. Its not that you are wrong or nahm is right. It’s just that you are both equally wrong as you are right relativity. There is actually no force that can adjudicate relativity except love because that is what it is. Love is the tipping scale which delicately balances how to make a conscious decision. Let me give you an idea of relativity. You could be so loving that you would sit down in the forest in the middle of nowhere and let your pshyical body die. Because everything is already perfect, so what need the change? Or you could be a loving person and spread that infinite love however you decide to. But ultimately my personal decision is that yes nahm would be right. There is a bigger self than you which makes you smaller, but at the same time you are indistinguishable which makes you bigger. They are equal. So the better thing to do is become a proactive god instead of a reactive god. Again equal. It sounds just my personal opinion of the situation and you are allowed to exercise your own expression of love which is zeroisonfinity and infinityiszero