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@MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI I think he does Santatagamana's techniques. Steven's is probably not relevant to him.

There is a lot of ammo.

Its time Leo starts learning TikTok dances to save save the next generation.

Maybe hypnosis should be in the actualizers™ tool belt. Please share your experience with it and compare it to other tools. Is it worth it? I've heard people lose their tobacco addictions with it, so it seems very powerful.

If you swallow because you're anxious, becoming anxious about swallowing is the worst thing you can do. It's hard to will yourself out of anxiety but you can make peace with it. If you are at peace with it people around you will too.

if you can't do 30 do 15. If you can't do 15 do 5. if you can't do 5 do a page.

This is great thank you for sharing.

@Danioover9000 You don't need to be a saint to be turquoise. I think aCiM is legit. Everyone has fallen short of perfection.

@Danioover9000 Shinzen young, Osho, Sadhguru, Rupert Sheldrake to name a few. You're not turquoise because you're enlightened. I wrote this some years ago about my understanding of turquoise: The Anatomy of Turquoise The 2nd, 4th, 6th and 7th chakra make up the inner workings of turquoise. Everything I witnessed fell into an open heart(4th chakra). My open 6th chakra made the love indiscriminate, totally compassionate for even the darkest side of a being. That ability to see someone in their totality, without judging its ugly sides, is what gives turquoise it's famed holism. A 2nd chakra bond was then formed with being entered my awareness, could be a part of my subtle body, psyche or could be another living being. The indiscriminate love then worked through that bond to create the desire to heal the being. Healing means making happy, as happiness is the psyche's way of signaling health. It's then perceived that the being has bonds with other beings that in turn has more bonds. These bonds continue out to a whole network encompassing every being on this planet, aka, the web of life. The open 7th chakra made this cognition cosmic rather than personal, giving a 3rd person perspective required for the impersonal nature of the 2nd tier. Ken's AQAL model is fundamentally flawed.

@Danioover9000 I disagree, almost none of the people Leo uses as examples of turquoise express much turquoise. I probably disagree with this whole forum on the nature of turquoise. What didn't Ken mean?

@Danioover9000 Leo thinks it's a stage of spiritual development when it's really about emotional and cognitive development. Ken thinks the third tier comes after the second tier but it really branches of from yellow and goes parallel with the second tier

They are anti the political elite in both parties that are bought by corporations. It's not anti-government per se, just anti this government. Neither osho nor sadhguru are spiral dynamics stage turquoise. Turquoise is not a stage of spiritual awakening but is mostly characterized by complete empathy and intuitively feeling how different entities in a system effect each other. Leo fundamentally misunderstands this stage sadly which is why the founders of the model got his video on the stage removed from youtube. Leo conflates turquoise with third-tier para-mind. The third tier branches off from yellow rather than being after turquoise, this is something Ken Wilber has gotten wrong. So someone who's at para-mind doesn't have to be at turquoise. She also has plenty of yellow but being feminine she is more developed in the feminine stages.

It's not all but if you ask people why they voted for Trump they will say that he fights the establishment. Turquise doesn't mean that you exit society. If anything it makes you care more. Haven't read it but from what I know it's mostly about love, spirituality and manifestation. I've never heard Marianne say anything crazy.

Lots have been said and I'll just say this: Marianne unprecedented, the power of turquoise has never been tried in politics before. Bernie is very popular and Marianne will tap into that but she is also many times wiser and smarter than Bernie. She is able to appeal to the whole SD spectrum in a way Bernie couldn't. That's what I'm betting on. I'm also betting on her ability to persuade influential people, and by that, winning over their audiences. There is a lot of anti-establishment energy in America, which is what got Trump and Obama elected and I think she is very good at channeling that in a leftist direction.

Is that how Obamna got elected? American politics is bigger than Trump. Would you have said that 8 years ago? @Danioover9000 I don't get woo-woo vibes from her political speeches. Quite the opposite, she is very down-to-earth. She isn't some green hippie, she is turquoise. People do have a preconception that she's woo-woo but that tends to disappear when they actually hear her speak. Trump mainly won because he was against the Washington establishment that is completely out of touch with the needs of average Americans.

I've gotten the sense that when people actually listen to her or converse with her they are impressed by a very wise woman with a sharp understanding of the core issues facing normal Americans. You might be right but I think there is a possibility that the strength of her character and the substance of what she is talking about will shine through people not resonating with her vibes. Trump is offputting to most Americans but he won anyways by being an outsider, the same might happen for Marianne.

Bernie is too old now and I think Marianne will carry the torch for the progressive movement in the US. I've never admired a politician as I admire her. I wish her the best of luck. Maybe she won't win this round but when you play you should play to win.

Imagine how big a following Leo would have if he also did meth. Maybe he will add it to his nootropic stack.

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I believe that before your health becomes bad enough to create diagnosable symptoms your emotional system gets messed up. I believe living with such emotional problems leads a lot of people to become philosophers. You have no answers for why you are not okay, so you look far and wide. Not being able to find happiness in the now, you start looking for meaning in the future. You try all the things conventionally supposed to make you happy and it doesn't work, so you seek the unconventional. Me and all the philosophers that have had the biggest influence on my life are all chronically ill: Leo, JP and Ken Wilber. I once read a list of sick philosophers. I can't find the list now but it was long and had many well-known names on it, like Nietzsche. I believe the negative emotions and mental state that come with bad health is one of the biggest reasons people become philosophers. Do you agree?

@Lila9 Great point.

I did. You fasting wrong doesn't mean fasting, done properly, doesn't work for you. If you're doing stuff, your body thinks it's not supposed to heal, instead, it's supposed to give energy to your brain and body, so it tells you fasting is wrong for you. It was right. Your intuition was right. I disagree with the paradigm that everyone has their own health ideal. The way I think about it is that there is a hierarchy of diets, whatever it is, but some people have defects, like allergies, where they can't do the optimal so they have to settle for the second, or third best. But if the defect is healed they should move to the optimal diet. As I understand you haven't always had these health problems, so the way you have to eat now is not part of the essence of who you are. I believe fasting and raw veganism are optimal, but that's beside the point. @aurum With regards to electrolytes it comes down to that I trust Loren's judgment on it. Otherwise, I agree with you. Do you know any counterindications for when people shouldn't fast?

@Jannes I mean philosophy in the broadest sense possible. The word philosopher means "friend of wisdom". I'd consider most people on this forum to be a philosopher. I love this concept. This is the role Jordan Peterson is playing for a lot of kids these days. I hope schools will have philosophy clubs in the future. I'm not talking about turning to philosophy for escape. Rather, turning to philosophy for answers because not a single answer that's been given to us by mainstream society has made us okay. Really, the answer we are looking for is good health. In absence of that, we look for enlightenment or a higher purpose to make us feel okay.

@aurum People have gone 60 days+ without electrolytes at Loren Lockman's center. Granted, the springwater they use probably contains more electrolytes than the tap water I'm drinking. Still, it works and it's safe as long as you know what you are doing. Don't sweat basically. I don't see a reason to mess with something that works. I'm confident fasting works for most people if it's done right. I think OP is in a small minority. Animals fast when they are sick, this is why we lose our appetite when we get sick. Fasting is a natural thing done by, I'd think, all mammals, not some health fad that works for a couple of people.

@Leo Gura I've done a 14 day long water fast no suplements. I'm speaking from experience. After day 3 the thought of putting food in my mouth repelled me. Being dizzy and not being able to stand up is how it's supposed to be. It doesn't matter when you are lying down and resting. Of course, you didn't get results when you didn't rest, that's my point. You shouldn't even be sitting up. When we get sick we lose our appetite because it's natural for us to fast. I listened to my body during the fast intensely and it felt natural. The only thing that didn't feel natural was eating again. My body wanted to go longer but I didn't feel safe doing so without supervision.