Bernardo Carleial

I understand what makes you think I'm talking about culture when I refere to language, actually I'm not. Because it's development doesn't need anyone to reinforce it. I'm actually referring to your whole experience as a human, how can you converge a message directly to someone else(or to yourself) without recurring to some symbol that helps as a guideline to compartmentalize the meaning of an idea you try to converge? Language is a human method to share information, perceptions and experience in a way that suits our needs. because we can't grasp the totality of reality that we're in, so we need to narrow it down to some abstraction. It's a map, and because the map is not(never) the territory, it may leave room for contradiction, because although human animals perceive and experience things in a similar manner, the degree to what we grasp these things can be quite different from one another ,and the more personal/intimate the experience is(or feels) to someone, the more it can blend lots of different meanings,because it is fused with a lot of our own biases, both cognitive and culturally, which can makes things quite confusing, and that's why we see a lot of these culture wars in our society, I'm not saying that both are equally right or wrong, I'm just saying that all these judgments comes from that issue of language being intertwined with our perceptions and experience. I don't know if I made myself clear... What I suggest you is to go read the Wittgenstein's book, he explains this notion a lot more eloquently than I do, with lots of examples that are easy to read and understand. ??

I consider Bernardo Kastrup one of the greatest minds of this century... Not because there is something inherently special on him, but because what he's proposing with his Analytical Idealism is so radical, and yet so consistent, that it will only be fully conceived and understood by the next generation of scientists and scholars, who (hopefully) will have moved beyond the materialist paradigm...

In my case, it happens when someone close to me criticizes more than once about some particular trait I might have while interacting with them. But your example is also very good, I can picture myself in situations like that... I used to be very judgemental towards others, and I still have to correct that myself...

I agree with @Leo Gura on that one. The Spiral Dynamics is a book to get to know the theoretical/conceptual research that was developed in that model, and the actualized videos cover those pretty well, even with the "human biases", and apart from that there's nothing you can learn on SD that will compete with your direct experience... But, @Late Boomer ,even with all of that being said, you still want to get more knowledge... I'll recommend the following books:? 1- Spiral Dynamics - Don Beck & Christopher Cowan 2- Integral Psychology - Ken Wilber 3- Motivation and Personality - Abraham Maslow I won't talk about Susan Cook-Greuter here, because I still haven't studied her model yet...

@ZenSwift If you really wanna go down that path, I recommend you to read the book "Philosophical Investigations " by Ludwig Wittgenstein, the problem is much deeper than that... language is a complete abstraction of the human mind, it can influence our perception, but it actually comes from that, and, as an abstraction, it can be shaped in whatever way we want to, it's not North Korea, nor Iraq, nor any other authoritarian regime that is controling it(at the fundamental level), but the nature of language itself, because its development, on both individual and collective level, is completely arbitrary, we can't think without language, (unless you're an artist, which uses intuition, not words...).

I know that showing these videos of AI development on this thread might be a little bit of a stretch, however, I do think that it can help us understand a little more about how our learning curve is built , by a process of trial and error, which leads us to the best possible outcome in a particular task that we want to accomplish...

not that great of a song by AAL... but this kinesthetic vibe and body expressions are very vMEME Green

It's okay, thanks bro!??

@Rilles do you have that image in a higher resolution? I got curious about it...

I have some issues regarding the vMEME Green PC Culture... I understand their intent, and I see it as valid, but I think they undervalue how arbitrary language is: language is very subjective to our own biases and partial perceptions about life and reality, both on an individual and on a collective level, so that we could conceptualize (and compartmentalize) it with words, its not universal, but it helps to keep the show running... we cannot centralize "it" into words, because these are derived from the "experiencing" of a thing, which requires none...we can deal with these language-games only as they emerge from our "periphery of vision" so to speak... To become dogmatic about the correct use of language is inherently contradictory... but you can certainly improve it, and that is why I think it can be valid.

This video is a very good one

"The turks have such a formidable army that, if they were baptized Christians, it would be just like us..." said one of the crusaders (vMEME Blue ethnocentrism)

Very well produced documentary describing how life is like as a vMEME Blue Knight in the Middle Ages

vMEME Purple rituals applied to 21st century modern society

The PC Babies: making things fun and gender neutral (vMEME Green Mockery)

Emergence and Complexity Theory P.S: ants are not stupid!?

Even though the dictators themselves are at vMEME Red, the reason why they rise into power is because they adjust their rhetoric in a way that appeals to vMEME Blue law-abiding working class, which generally consists the largest portion of the social body.