Paulus Amadeus

Hmmm yeah you are probably right. I've actually listened mostly to the interviews of the people you just listed. Thought those were super valuable though. And there are definitely a few more he's interviewed that are not in your list.

never contacted them but people report talking to them on high doses of DMT.

Not all, but also not all of them claim to be enlightened. I feel a good portion of them are though. But yeah, there is obviously no way to really know for sure.

@Butters went through quiet a similair thing. In that mode it was baffeling why people stressed so much and didn't just go for a walk in the park. I was just really enjoying being present for the first time in my life. What hapenned to me is that I partly integrated it in my normal life and it partly went away. So definitely more present and happy from moment to moment now than I was but not at the level I was at before. Also discipline etc has definitely become important again . Hope this is helpfull for you. Regards, Paul

@Sockrattes I thnk it's super usefull actually. Because it introduces the notion of growth in more dimensions. If you are in Orange you might have thought of growth as: - getting hotter girls - getting more money - becomming fitter etc. But when you learn about spiral dynamics you see that your real growth could come from going to green and focussing on: - opening your heart - caring about the wellbeing of your surroundings - protecting the enviroment So knowing the model is very very usefull for getting you out of barking up the wrong tree. If you don't misread where you are at on the spiral that is ofcourse. And yeah, it's just a model. So it shouldn't become the absolute gospel.

that's exactly what someone in blue, who's craving hierarchical structures would say . Spiral wizard Paulus Amadeus saves the day again.

can't have that

obviously

about 5/6 times a week if you are living together. Otherwise just whenever you see eachother

You'll just be catapulted into a new life anyway. Reincarnation man. And in this new life you might not be aware of actualized.org and that suicide is really not that much of a problem. Better work a bit on your (illusory) karma while you have the chance.

but yeah, sounds like you (as your ego) had a nice conversation with yourself (also your ego) and decided that you weren't going to kill yourself. No reason to be ashamed of this and it makes sense. The whole thing is pretty hilarious though.

you made a pact with the devil! No surprise here. After all, you are the devil.

@aurum Maybe this metafor is usefull for pick up: Imagine a really fat dude. For him the best thing he could possibly do is go to the gym and clean up his diet. So he does this and the first couple of years this is enormously helpfull and he grows a lot. Both from the outside and from the inside he becomes a fitter and better person. Now after some years our friend is pretty buffed and he has built his new self-worth around being able to be muscular. He puts his body through thougher and thougher work outs. It's no longer about getting fit and healthy and growing internally. It's now about ego and what other people think of him. This dude should definitely dial back going to the gym. This is the best thing for him to do for his growth. So I'm sure you already got it but replace 'gym' with 'club' and fat with 'not getting laid' etc. Pick up can be a great source of growth at the beginning, but can really stunt your growth after some time. Tyler should probably stop doing pick up asap. I mean this dude is a 37 year old millionair worried about his instagram stories and sleeping with strippers. That doesn't sound highly conscious to me. I feel like he was more spiritually minded a couple of years ago than he is now. Don't get me wrong, I still think he is pretty awesome. Just that if he let go of trying to get laid all the time he could be way more awesome. Let me know what you think.

was brought op in Orange/green. Had a pretty heavy Orange phase (hardcore pickin up girls). Would say right now I'm orange/GREEN/yellow

A pick up coach who is in stage yellow, believe it or not. This dude used to be a monk, martial artist and musician. Then got into seduction when he was 26. Really really fascinating character:

goddamn. This is some next level shit

I've had some pretty good succes actually. I've definitely turned some friends onto this. So it's very much possible .

@molosku I would say yellow for sure

atoms and molecules are happening within consciousness dude . There is no stuff that is material. You are talking from the paradigm that he's trying to see through.

@Shakazulu yeah no crazy high dosisses for me yet. 250 ug Lsd is the highest I went and mushrooms I don't know. I used truffels (legal here in amsterdam). they have a lower density of psylocibine in them. I ate about 20 grams of truffels, which of they were mushrooms would have probably exploded the universe ;). Btw an absolutely amazing book te shed the materialist belief is: Why materialism is Baloney, by Bernardo Kastrup. That books put the nail in the coffin for me concerning the materialist paradigm. That and some psychedelic experiences should be more than enough. And this is coming from a guy who studied physics ;). Good luck man!

mushrooms and LSD.

@Etagnwo I think this is largely true. Although there are definitely people who were pretty much totally broke, went to an ashram and got enlightened over time. I do think that if you are that far in your personal development that you are ready for enligthenment, you should also be able to make money. But for some it's just not necessary. They are content with being poor and they find a way to survive while spending most of their time doing their practise.

@Brittany, Conscious suffering I would say. Everyone has trauma's and suffers. The more unconscious someone is the more he/she was traumatized. You don't close done from love for fun. There are just some people who have enough conscousness to be aware of their immens suffering and who believe that change is possible. These are the self-actualizers ofcourse. But everyone is hurt, traumatized and scared. Might just not be on the surface very much for some of the people that look more oblivious.

Just started listening to 'the business outlaws' podcast. Can't say much about it yet but it seems pretty good. Anyone know some other good business podcasts? I would be really keen to have some more quality business podcasts to listen to.

Yeah really good response! Pick up can definitely be used as a tool of massive growth. Just got to try to not become a creap and keep your ego in check. But when you do these things it's a beautifull thing.