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Omg I can't believe this is happening. Right at the pinnacle of my spiritual evolution I come across this video of Miley Cyrus. I had been imagining myself as a girl maturing and blossoming into someone with a cowboy hat and boots and not giving a fuck about what the world thinks and simply focused on my own spiritual growth. And here it is, just in time, comes in this interview where I see Miley Cyrus personifying what I had been imagining. Not only the outer aesthetics in terms of her simple shirt and boots but also her voice and mannerisms, all dribbling with maturity, I can't believe it. I'm seeing my alter ego right in front of my eyes, my spiritually evolved alter ego. I can imagine myself in an underground rugged basement studio with a mic stand and me screaming a song at the top of my lungs and dancing around in jeans and boots and not thinking about the world even for a second. Just soaking up who I am and wanting to connect with God in the most genuine way possible. Omg.

I've realized through my spiritual journeys and quests that the final answer lies in the word communication It's all about communication. Everything is either direct communication or a form of communication. If you got a bit deeper with communication, what is the word that comes to your mind? What exactly do you build with communication? Connection.................. Yesssssssss Now I got it. Spirituality is all about a genuine connection.. And I'm walking along that line. I'm reaching there. I'm a few steps short of a great discovery. I knew I was close to the finishing line. My hard work of 3 long years would not go in vain. Plus I had been thinking about spirituality since childhood. I knew it would culminate into some form of preserving maturity that remains surprisingly calm and stable and continues along its path.

sometimes just kept pouring the [ __ ] and you're like oh my god like can't drink any more of this [ __ ] yeah and you're just like you know you're dizzy often that's what i mean like when we spoke in 2017 and the album was coming out and you were just like i got this like i got the relationship i got the album I got that life i'm good yeah and then and life just laughs it's like you're not done yet you know i i kind of hate the saying but also love it that when you make the plan that life you know laughs at you because i do think there's something to having an idea of what you want and like setting a goal and seeing it you know i daydream a lot daydreaming and like seeing it all happen but not letting it completely consume you to the point where there's no other opportunities you exactly and become i never let an idea or a schedule 07:07 determine my creative choices so listen like i made a record you and i had talked during younger now and then i was going and making a set of three eps which were amazing i was in love with the songs you know but those two eps weren't relevant anymore and even though i loved the songs for 07:26 what they were they lost their relevance so to me i can't ever release that is the only thing that you did in that equation that that doesn't play to how you would do that now is you announced it yeah when you announce it you get power that's the plan yeah exactly and then it goes upside down i didn't realize you lost stuff though oh yeah so every computer every journal every song i've ever written you know and i write a lot of songs that no one ever hears they're just for me actually yesterday i was going through i have a joan jett book and i was looking at some pictures of her getting inspired and i was like we had the exact same handwriting and i realized it was my handwriting i had used her book as my songwriting journal so if you know if i don't have anything you just

things that i'll miss it really what i gained which patients being one of them was worth it in a sense finding a balance of feeling detached but still being able to connect yeah you know yeah i would never want someone to say you know she just wasn't there with me she just you know i i do have a problem with people that that think being protected or guarding yourself in some way is detachment is attachment because if you don't protect yourself then like 04:33 take all the locks off your house leave the keys in the car sure don't wear shoes on your feet well also you have a right to keep something t yourself i mean you or yourself before anybody came into your life ultimately outside you know the family that you have and even then the minute you're born it's your journey mm-hmm and i wonder i've always wanted to ask you this as you now get to a higher state of self-awareness through your music through your life through learning through relationships through all of it through maturity right it's called maturity do you look back now on what you were told by your parents what you how you acted as a kid the kind of kid you were from that you know they all just had the earliest memories have you always been this no i mean i am not the person i was yesterday you know last night sitting behind you cutting with stevie nicks on the phone that changed me forever you know everything changes me forever and i'll never be who i was yesterday in a way every night 05:26 before i go to sleep i say goodbye to myself in a way because it's like that person's done and there's like a sadness to it sometimes because i do evolve really quickly because i'm very absorbent like i just take everything in yeah and recently i've had to do inventory of what i've owned as mine that isn't mine because i think like you're saying your parents so whether it's generational or the way that you're raised or you know you you really do get passed through dna 05:56 yeah personality and character even fear yeah nature versus nurture for sure you know exactly nature versus nurture and we're all just an equation of all those things adding up you know the last three years i called it the the cocktail of chaos because it just felt like the worst bartender ever which was like as the universe yeah

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3:32 / 1:19:24 Transcript 00:01 [Music] 00:12 this place is cool 00:13 thank you so much i am at some point i'm gonna this wall is gonna go away and i'm gonna make a big like songwriting deck out there because i'd like to go outside we have a little mini spot out there but my mom came in here and spruced the place up and she's obsessed with putting like photos of me with all these people everywhere so this is like a mother's doing i love how you came straight in and you like and you zeroed in on the thing that i would have gone to and you've justified it without me even raising it it's my [ __ ] mother came here today i'm like yo why because my mom she just is like you know she wants me to be proud of my moments but it's just very like it's cute in her house but in my house i feel like it's kind of like a like a whole dentist you know when you go and you're like i don't really care whose teeth you clean like you go to that dentist as well yeah can you clean teeth or not i don't care about the pictures on the wall it's so lay how you doing i'm doing really good i'm happy to be 01:02 talking to you you too i was thinking it's nice actually out of all the times you know covid has just been just so hard on everybody whether it's actually physically getting the illness or just mentally and spiritually or you know so many people are just experiencing anxiety and fear but the one great thing is you know to bring you to my studio bring you to my home yeah we've never been able to sit where i was thrilled the music really gets i mean when it came into my diary and it's i was like 01:33 where are we doing it and they're like well it's it's at miley's place i was thrilled because you're right it started out in our place and then it was covert orientated tech talk yeah i don't like that especially with you and me you know you want to have a real conversation and i think with that i think timing is everything you know i learned that whether that was in love or relationships or just comedy i mean just even to to make people laugh to make people cry there's a timing to all of it and when you lose that timing and that connection and that awareness of okay i'm sensing what you're feeling you're sensing what i'm feeling when you lose that i think that's what's kind of been causing some of this anxiety and fear because there's an unknowingness of the response you lose that when you're talking through a screen well the core of anxiety and fears is a desire for control and we put that in the same conversation as time yeah and that's why when things happen to you it's like oh i have the worst timing yeah i can't believe this time that happened yeah and it's interesting that you would look at it from a different perspective of like actually i lean into the concept of time even if at the time it felt like a bad time also i think there's something about you kind of fall into the right timing and i think there's been times where i've wanted to rush in times where i wanted to wait and there's just seasons and that's been this record for me because this record i really was patient with and patience you could probably get a lot of adjectives of the things that i am but patient i don't think if you ask anyone around me would necessarily be you were sort of pushed in that direction right because it's so funny i was thinking back to the last time we really spoke well around the last album which was younger now album album and it's funny that title you know because i think about like you were really you were on a mission to mature and to build a life for yourself to stabilize yourself and you called that album younger now and it all just felt very at odds and then 2018 the whole thing just tips upside down as you wrote so poignantly in your note and i think about that that's a push toward patience because that's about losing control you can't control that that must have been the problem with looking back on it now the most significant one of the most significant events of your life that fire i write down everything like i my dad always says you know when you write it down when you say it out loud you give it power you begin to create it the minute that you write it down so i write everything down you know i did write about i guess it was a push into patience but it's now a part of my character and it's something that i really am proud of and it i feel it was earned um to be patient and as much as there's

3:32 / 1:19:24 Transcript 00:01 [Music] 00:12 this place is cool 00:13 thank you so much i am at some point i'm gonna this wall is gonna go away and i'm gonna make a big like songwriting deck out there because i'd like to go outside we have a little mini spot out there but my mom came in here and spruced the place up and she's obsessed with putting like photos of me with all these people everywhere so this is like a mother's doing i love how you came straight in and you like and you zeroed in on the thing that i would have gone to and you've justified it without me even raising it it's my [ __ ] mother came here today i'm like yo why because my mom she just is like you know she wants me to be proud of my moments but it's just very like it's cute in her house but in my house i feel like it's kind of like a like a whole dentist you know when you go and you're like i don't really care whose teeth you clean like you go to that dentist as well yeah can you clean teeth or not i don't care about the pictures on the wall it's so lay how you doing i'm doing really good i'm happy to be 01:02 talking to you you too i was thinking it's nice actually out of all the times you know covid has just been just so hard on everybody whether it's actually physically getting the illness or just mentally and spiritually or you know so many people are just experiencing anxiety and fear but the one great thing is you know to bring you to my studio bring you to my home yeah we've never been able to sit where i was thrilled the music really gets i mean when it came into my diary and it's i was like 01:33 where are we doing it and they're like well it's it's at miley's place i was thrilled because you're right it started out in our place and then it was covert orientated tech talk yeah i don't like that especially with you and me you know you want to have a real conversation and i think with that i think timing is everything you know i learned that whether that was in love or relationships or just comedy i mean just even to to make people laugh to make people cry there's a timing to all of it and when you lose that timing and that connection and that awareness of okay i'm sensing what you're feeling you're sensing what i'm feeling when you lose that i think that's what's kind of been causing some of this anxiety and fear because there's an unknowingness of the response you lose that when you're talking through a screen well the core of anxiety and fears is a desire for control and we put that in the same conversation as time yeah and that's why when things happen to you it's like oh i have the worst timing yeah i can't believe this time that happened yeah and it's interesting that you would look at it from a different perspective of like actually i lean into the concept of time even if at the time it felt like a bad time also i think there's something about you kind of fall into the right timing and i think there's been times where i've wanted to rush in times where i wanted to wait and there's just seasons and that's been this record for me because this record i really was patient with and patience you could probably get a lot of adjectives of the things that i am but patient i don't think if you ask anyone around me would necessarily be you were sort of pushed in that direction right because it's so funny i was thinking back to the last time we really spoke well around the last album which was younger now album album and it's funny that title you know because i think about like you were really you were on a mission to mature and to build a life for yourself to stabilize yourself and you called that album younger now and it all just felt very at odds and then 2018 the whole thing just tips upside down as you wrote so poignantly in your note and i think about that that's a push toward patience because that's about losing control you can't control that that must have been the problem with looking back on it now the most significant one of the most significant events of your life that fire i write down everything like i my dad always says you know when you write it down when you say it out loud you give it power you begin to create it the minute that you write it down so i write everything down you know i did write about i guess it was a push into patience but it's now a part of my character and it's something that i really am proud of and it i feel it was earned um to be patient and as much as there's 04:03 things that i'll miss it really what i gained which patients being one of them was worth it in a sense finding a balance of feeling detached but still being able to connect yeah you know yeah i would never want someone to say you know she just wasn't there with me she just you know i i do have a problem with people that that think being protected or guarding yourself in some way is detachment is attachment because if you don't protect yourself then like 04:33 take all the locks off your house leave the keys in the car sure don't wear shoes on your feet well also you have a right to keep something t yourself i mean you or yourself before anybody came into your life ultimately outside you know the family that you have and even then the minute you're born it's your journey mm-hmm and i wonder i've always wanted to ask you this as you now get to a higher state of self-awareness through your music through your life through learning through relationships through all of it through maturity right it's called maturity do you look back now on what you were told by your parents what you how you acted as a kid the kind of kid you were from that you know they all just had the earliest memories have you always been this no i mean i am not the person i was yesterday you know last night sitting behind you cutting with stevie nicks on the phone that changed me forever you know everything changes me forever and i'll never be who i was yesterday in a way every night 05:26 before i go to sleep i say goodbye to myself in a way because it's like that person's done and there's like a sadness to it sometimes because i do evolve really quickly because i'm very absorbent like i just take everything in yeah and recently i've had to do inventory of what i've owned as mine that isn't mine because i think like you're saying your parents so whether it's generational or the way that you're raised or you know you you really do get passed through dna 05:56 yeah personality and character even fear yeah nature versus nurture for sure you know exactly nature versus nurture and we're all just an equation of all those things adding up you know the last three years i called it the the cocktail of chaos because it just felt like the worst bartender ever which was like as the universe yeah 06:17 sometimes just kept pouring the [ __ ] and you're like oh my god like can't drink any more of this [ __ ] yeah and you're just like you know you're dizzy often that's what i mean like when we spoke in 2017 and the album was coming out and you were just like i got this like i got the relationship i got the album I got that life i'm good yeah and then and life just laughs it's like you're not done yet you know i i kind of hate the saying but also love it that when you make the plan that life you know laughs at you because i do think there's something to having an idea of what you want and like setting a goal and seeing it you know i daydream a lot daydreaming and like seeing it all happen but not letting it completely consume you to the point where there's no other opportunities you exactly and become i never let an idea or a schedule 07:07 determine my creative choices so listen like i made a record you and i had talked during younger now and then i was going and making a set of three eps which were amazing i was in love with the songs you know but those two eps weren't relevant anymore and even though i loved the songs for 07:26 what they were they lost their relevance so to me i can't ever release that is the only thing that you did in that equation that that doesn't play to how you would do that now is you announced it yeah when you announce it you get power that's the plan yeah exactly and then it goes upside down i didn't realize you lost stuff though oh yeah so every computer every journal every song i've ever written you know and i write a lot of songs that no one ever hears they're just for me actually yesterday i was going through i have a joan jett book and i was looking at some pictures of her getting inspired and i was like we had the exact same handwriting and i realized it was my handwriting i had used her book as my songwriting journal so if you know if i don't have anything you just 08:07 pick up a record and just right i was right on it and so i was like man me and joan do have a lot in common i even have her handwriting and then i realized that's my handwriting yeah i do not remember her writing about like you know floating through space with an astronaut so that was like in my dead pet studio i had had a book sitting here on this console this console survived the fire this is from my studio in malibu and um yeah my dad actually was like can i have that i'm like dude this is what i the one thing that we really had left was my freaking console it's mine he's like i know but i just got the perfect compressor i need a place to put it like you have to get your own damn console this is like because my studio was the only thing that was left so this kind of from here and those signs those were that's a sign that's the only thing i had left was my studio that's all that was left was my music wow oddly you know i didn't have a lot of my songwriting journals in my studio because that's never i mean for me that's never where i write a song i never write a song in the studio can I ask you a really weird question I've never asked anyone because it was such a such a unique experience that you go through something as kind of traumatic and life shaking as that what is it like when you walk through what used to be a home dude i mean part of you wants to just start digging through ashes and find whatever is left you know so part of me wants to do that and part of you creates 09:26 the the walls and the what was there and you can almost see pictures i mean part of you you're i guess it's somewhat of muscle memory of some kind you know it starts putting it all back together again and then a part of you is very peaceful i also am very fortunate because i knew that i would have some place to go that i would not be displaced yeah and now so your security's checked my security is fine and i know that about my life i never stop being grateful for that my life is extremely unique and i'm 10:00 sometimes feel overly fortunate and i had my own guilt with that you know so being there there was a sense of peace knowing that there was nothing i could do about it because there's times where me wanting to control has been able for me to create this authentic brand i never do anything that i don't want to do 10:17 my music is exactly what i want it to be 10:18 being in control a lot of the time works in my favor but being obsessed with control can also be really damaging to just being in what the plan that the above has for you so I battled with that but i more so i really felt at peace knowing that there's nothing i can do about it and i've taken that piece and i try to find that space because there's a billion other times in your life that there's gonna be nothing that you can do about it having that that freedom now of not being just so in love with control has been really good for me yeah it's funny you talk about that because if i go through and i read it from an altitude and i said cherry pick the events that we've all seen and heard that's the trade of being a performer i suppose is that stuff gets put out here it does feel like the moments when things have taken you in a vastly different direction to be the moments when you've on the outside have being in complete control uh-huh yeah well i i thrive in in chaos a little bit and i also 11:19 i don't like making decisions this is one thing that i don't like i do not like someone asked me to go to dinner you choose like i do not like me oh that's annoying i don't like making decisions that's because i really am kind of happy anywhere right i just am and until you're not until until i'm like this place sucks but i'm like so obviously really i really like people kind of i mean when it comes to my music into my craft i really really like making my own choices and making my own art but those aren't really decisions you know those aren't to me those aren't decisions they're probably very big decisions if you're not used to making them all the time but like putting out music to me isn't a big decision it's like it just is like it's just flowing out constantly so i liked that i never had to make a choice about saying goodbye to that house it just said goodbye to me there was no choice in it and i really liked that about about the non-decision-making process so it's been a year i mean if this is still the case and no judgment but from what i can tell it's been a year since you chose sobriety right since you decided to clear your head yeah how did it feel when you started to wake up and realize that that was working well i like a lot of people you know being completely honest during the pandemic fell off and felt really a lot of you know and i would never sit here and go i've been [ __ ] sober and i didn't and i fell off and I realized that i now am back on sobriety two weeks sober and you know i feel like i really accepted that time and one of the things i've used is don't get furious get curious so don't be mad at yourself but ask

Miley Cyrus I write down everything. Like if you write and say it loud, you begin to give it power. Finding a balance between being able to detach but still being able to connect. . You're not done yet. I do evolve very quickly because I'm very absorbent, like I take everything in and.

Miley Cyrus I say goodnight to the person I was that day.

8 3:32 / 1:19:24 Transcript 00:01 [Music] 00:12 this place is cool 00:13 thank you so much i am at some point i'm 00:16 gonna 00:17 this wall is gonna go away and i'm gonna 00:19 make a big like songwriting deck out 00:20 there because i'd like to go outside we 00:21 have a little mini spot out there 00:23 but my mom came in here and spruced the 00:26 place up 00:27 and she's obsessed with putting like 00:28 photos of me with all these 00:30 people everywhere so this is like a 00:31 mother's doing i love how you came 00:33 straight in and you like and you 00:34 zeroed in on the thing that i would have 00:36 gone to and you've justified it without 00:37 me even raising it it's my [ __ ] 00:39 mother 00:40 came here today i'm like yo why because 00:41 my mom 00:43 she just is like you know she wants me 00:44 to be proud of my moments but it's just 00:46 very 00:46 like it's cute in her house but in my 00:48 house i feel like it's kind of like a 00:50 like a whole dentist you know when you 00:52 go and you're like i don't really care 00:53 whose teeth you clean like you go to 00:55 that dentist as well yeah can you clean 00:56 teeth or not 00:57 i don't care about the pictures on the 00:58 wall it's so lay how you doing 01:00 i'm doing really good i'm happy to be 01:02 talking to you you too 01:03 i was thinking it's nice actually out of 01:05 all the times you know 01:07 covid has just been just so hard on 01:10 everybody whether it's 01:12 actually physically getting the illness 01:14 or 01:15 just mentally and spiritually or you 01:18 know so many people are just 01:19 experiencing anxiety and fear but 01:22 the one great thing is you know to bring 01:25 you to 01:26 my studio bring you to my home yeah 01:28 we've never been able to sit where i was 01:30 thrilled 01:31 the music really gets i mean when it 01:32 came into my diary and it's i was like 01:33 where are we doing it 01:34 and they're like well it's it's at 01:36 miley's place i was thrilled because 01:37 you're right it started out in our place 01:39 and then it was covert orientated tech 01:41 talk 01:41 yeah i don't like that especially with 01:43 you and me you know you want to have a 01:44 real conversation and 01:46 i think with that i think timing is 01:49 everything 01:50 you know i learned that whether that was 01:52 in love or 01:54 relationships or just comedy i mean just 01:57 even to 01:58 to make people laugh to make people cry 02:00 there's a timing to all of it 02:01 and when you lose that timing and that 02:03 connection and that awareness of okay 02:06 i'm sensing what you're feeling you're 02:07 sensing what i'm feeling 02:09 when you lose that i think that's what's 02:11 kind of been causing some of this 02:12 anxiety and fear because there's an 02:14 unknowingness of the response 02:17 you lose that when you're talking 02:19 through a screen well the core of 02:20 anxiety and fears 02:21 is a desire for control and we put that 02:24 in the same conversation as time 02:26 yeah and that's why when things happen 02:27 to you it's like oh i have the worst 02:28 timing 02:29 yeah i can't believe this time that 02:30 happened yeah and it's interesting that 02:32 you would look at it from a different 02:33 perspective of like 02:34 actually i lean into the concept of time 02:36 even if at the time 02:37 it felt like a bad time also i think 02:39 there's something about 02:40 you kind of fall into the right timing 02:43 and i think there's been times where 02:45 i've wanted to rush in times where i 02:47 wanted to wait 02:48 and there's just seasons and that's been 02:51 this record for me because 02:53 this record i really was patient with 02:56 and patience you could probably get a 02:58 lot of adjectives of the things that i 03:00 am 03:00 but patient i don't think if you ask 03:02 anyone around me would necessarily be 03:04 you were sort of pushed in that 03:05 direction right because 03:07 it's so funny i was thinking back to the 03:09 last time we really spoke 03:10 well around the last album which was 03:11 younger now album album and it's funny 03:13 that title you know because i think 03:14 about like 03:15 you were really you were on a mission to 03:17 mature and to build a life for yourself 03:19 to stabilize yourself 03:20 and you called that album younger now 03:22 and it all just felt very at odds and 03:24 then 2018 the whole thing just tips 03:26 upside down as you wrote so poignantly 03:27 in your note 03:28 and i think about that that's a push 03:30 toward patience because that's about 03:32 losing control you can't control that 03:33 that must have been the problem with 03:34 looking back on it now the most 03:35 significant one of the most significant 03:37 events of your life that fire 03:38 i write down everything like i my dad 03:40 always says you know when you write it 03:41 down when you say it out loud you give 03:43 it power 03:44 you begin to create it the minute that 03:46 you write it down so i write everything 03:47 down 03:48 you know i did write about i guess it 03:50 was a push into patience but 03:51 it's now a part of my character and it's 03:54 something that i really 03:56 am proud of and it i feel it was earned 03:59 um 04:00 to be patient and as much as there's 04:03 things that 04:04 i'll miss it really what i 04:07 gained which patients being one of them 04:10 was worth it 04:11 in a sense finding a balance of feeling 04:14 detached 04:16 but still being able to connect yeah you 04:18 know yeah 04:19 i would never want someone to say you 04:21 know she just wasn't there with me she 04:23 just 04:23 you know i i do have a problem with 04:25 people that that think being protected 04:28 or guarding yourself in some way is 04:30 detachment is attachment because 04:31 if you don't protect yourself then like 04:33 take all the locks off your house 04:34 leave the keys in the car sure don't 04:36 wear shoes on your feet well also you 04:38 have a right to keep something to 04:39 yourself 04:39 i mean you or yourself before anybody 04:41 came into your life ultimately outside 04:43 you know the family that you have and 04:44 even then the minute you're born it's 04:45 your journey mm-hmm 04:46 and i wonder i've always wanted to ask 04:48 you this as you now get to a higher 04:50 state of self-awareness through your 04:51 music through your life through learning 04:53 through relationships through all of it 04:54 through maturity right it's called 04:55 maturity 04:56 do you look back now on what you were 04:59 told by your parents 05:00 what you how you acted as a kid the kind 05:02 of kid you were from that you know they 05:04 all 05:04 just had the earliest memories have you 05:06 always been this 05:07 no i mean i am not the person i was 05:10 yesterday 05:11 you know last night sitting behind you 05:14 cutting with stevie nicks on the phone 05:16 that changed me forever you know 05:17 everything changes me forever 05:19 and i'll never be 05:22 who i was yesterday in a way every night 05:26 before i go to sleep i say goodbye to 05:27 myself in a way because it's like 05:29 that person's done and there's like a 05:31 sadness to it sometimes because 05:34 i do evolve really quickly because i'm 05:37 very absorbent like i just take 05:39 everything in 05:40 yeah and recently i've had to do 05:42 inventory 05:43 of what i've owned as mine that isn't 05:46 mine because i think like you're saying 05:49 your parents so 05:50 whether it's generational or the way 05:52 that you're raised or you know 05:54 you you really do get passed through dna 05:56 yeah personality and character even fear 05:59 yeah nature versus nurture for sure you 06:01 know exactly nature versus nurture and 06:03 we're all just an equation of all those 06:05 things adding up 06:06 you know the last three years i called 06:09 it the 06:10 the cocktail of chaos because it just 06:12 felt like the worst bartender ever 06:15 which was like as the universe yeah 06:17 sometimes just kept pouring the [ __ ] and 06:19 you're like oh my god like can't drink 06:21 any more of this [ __ ] yeah and you're 06:22 just like you know 06:25 you're dizzy often that's what i mean 06:26 like when we spoke in 2017 and the album 06:28 was coming out 06:29 and you were just like i got this like i 06:32 got the relationship i got the album i 06:33 got that life i'm good 06:35 yeah and then and life just laughs it's 06:38 like 06:38 you're not done yet you know i i kind of 06:41 hate the saying but also love it that 06:43 when you make the plan 06:44 that life you know laughs at you because 06:45 i do think there's something to having 06:47 an idea of what you want and like 06:49 setting a goal and seeing it 06:51 you know i daydream a lot daydreaming 06:54 and like 06:54 seeing it all happen but not 06:58 letting it completely consume you to the 07:00 point where there's no other 07:01 opportunities you exactly and become 07:03 i never let an idea or a schedule 07:07 determine my creative choices so 07:10 listen like i made a record you and i 07:13 had talked during younger now 07:14 and then i was going and making a set of 07:16 three eps which were 07:18 amazing i was in love with the songs you 07:21 know but 07:22 those two eps weren't relevant anymore 07:24 and even though i loved the songs for 07:26 what they were 07:27 they lost their relevance so to me i 07:29 can't ever release that 07:30 is the only thing that you did in that 07:32 equation that that doesn't play to how 07:33 you would do that now is you announced 07:35 it 07:35 yeah when you announce it you get power 07:37 that's the plan 07:38 yeah exactly and then it goes upside 07:40 down i didn't realize you lost stuff 07:42 though oh yeah so every computer 07:44 every journal every song i've ever 07:46 written you know and i write a lot of 07:48 songs 07:49 that no one ever hears they're just for 07:51 me actually yesterday i was going 07:52 through i have a joan jett book and 07:55 i was looking at some pictures of her 07:56 getting inspired and i was like 07:58 we had the exact same handwriting and i 08:00 realized it was my handwriting i had 08:02 used her book 08:03 as my songwriting journal so if you know 08:05 if i don't have anything you just 08:07 pick up a record and just right i was 08:08 right on it and so i was like man 08:10 me and joan do have a lot in common i 08:12 even have her handwriting and then i 08:14 realized that's my handwriting yeah i do 08:16 not remember her writing about like 08:18 you know floating through space with an 08:19 astronaut so that was like 08:21 in my dead pet studio i had had a book 08:24 sitting here on this console 08:25 this console survived the fire this is 08:27 from my studio in malibu 08:29 and um yeah my dad actually was like can 08:32 i have that 08:33 i'm like dude this is what i the one 08:35 thing that we really had left 08:36 was my freaking console it's mine he's 08:38 like i know but i just got the perfect 08:40 compressor i need a place to put it 08:42 like you have to get your own damn 08:43 console this is like because my studio 08:45 was the only 08:47 thing that was left so this kind of from 08:49 here 08:50 and those signs those were that's a sign 08:53 that's the only thing i had left was my 08:54 studio that's all that was left was my 08:55 music 08:56 wow oddly you know i didn't have a lot 08:58 of my songwriting journals 09:00 in my studio because that's never i mean 09:02 for me that's never where i write a song 09:03 i never write a song in the studio can i 09:05 ask you a really weird question i've 09:06 never asked anyone because it was such a 09:08 such a unique experience that you go 09:09 through something as kind of traumatic 09:10 and life shaking as that 09:12 what is it like when you walk through 09:14 what used to be a home 09:15 dude i mean part of you wants to just 09:19 start digging through ashes 09:20 and find whatever is left you know so 09:23 part of me wants to do that and part of 09:25 you creates 09:26 the the walls and the what was there and 09:30 you can almost see pictures i mean 09:32 part of you you're i guess it's somewhat 09:34 of muscle memory of some kind you know 09:37 it starts putting it all back together 09:39 again 09:40 and then a part of you is very peaceful 09:42 i also am very 09:43 fortunate because i knew that i would 09:46 have some place to go that i would not 09:48 be displaced yeah and now so your 09:49 security's checked 09:51 my security is fine and i know that 09:53 about my life 09:54 i never stop being grateful for that 09:57 my life is extremely unique and i'm 10:00 sometimes feel overly fortunate 10:02 and i had my own guilt with that you 10:04 know so 10:05 being there there was a sense of peace 10:07 knowing that there was nothing i could 10:09 do about it 10:10 because there's times where me wanting 10:11 to control has been able for me to 10:13 create this authentic brand i never do 10:15 anything that i don't want to do 10:17 my music is exactly what i want it to be 10:18 being in control a lot of the time works 10:20 in my favor 10:21 but being obsessed with control can also 10:23 be really damaging to just being 10:26 in what the plan that the above has for 10:28 you so 10:29 i battled with that but i more so 10:33 i really felt at peace knowing that 10:35 there's nothing i can do about it and 10:37 i've taken that piece and i try to find 10:39 that 10:40 space because there's a billion other 10:43 times in your life that there's gonna be 10:45 nothing that you can do about it 10:46 having that that freedom now of not 10:49 being 10:50 just so in love with control has been 10:53 really good for me yeah it's funny you 10:54 talk about that because 10:56 if i go through and i read it from an 10:58 altitude and i said cherry pick the 11:00 events that we've all seen and heard 11:02 that's the trade of being a performer i 11:04 suppose is that 11:05 stuff gets put out here it does feel 11:07 like the moments when things have taken 11:09 you in a vastly different direction to 11:10 be the moments when you've 11:12 on the outside have being in complete 11:13 control uh-huh yeah well i 11:15 i thrive in in chaos a little bit and i 11:19 also 11:19 i don't like making decisions this is 11:22 one thing that i don't like 11:23 i do not like someone asked me to go to 11:25 dinner you choose 11:27 like i do not like me oh that's annoying 11:29 i don't like making decisions that's 11:30 because i really am kind of happy 11:31 anywhere right 11:32 i just am and until you're not until 11:34 until i'm like this place 11:35 sucks but i'm like so obviously really 11:39 i really like people kind of i mean when 11:42 it comes to my music into my 11:43 craft i really really like making my own 11:46 choices and making my own art but those 11:47 aren't really decisions 11:48 you know those aren't to me those aren't 11:50 decisions they're probably very big 11:51 decisions if you're not 11:52 used to making them all the time but 11:53 like putting out music to me isn't a big 11:55 decision it's like 11:56 it just is like it's just flowing out 11:58 constantly so i liked that 12:00 i never had to make a choice about 12:03 saying goodbye to that house it just 12:04 said goodbye to me there was no choice 12:06 in it and i really liked that about 12:08 about the non-decision-making process so 12:10 it's been a year 12:11 i mean if this is still the case and no 12:13 judgment but from what i can tell it's 12:14 been a year since you chose 12:15 sobriety right since you decided to 12:17 clear your head yeah how did it feel 12:19 when you started to wake up and realize 12:20 that that was working 12:22 well i like a lot of people you know 12:24 being completely honest during the 12:26 pandemic fell off and felt really 12:30 a lot of you know and i would never sit 12:31 here and go i've been [ __ ] sober and 12:33 i didn't and i fell off and i 12:35 realized that i now 12:39 am back on sobriety two weeks sober and 12:42 you know i feel like i really 12:46 accepted that time and one of the things 12:48 i've used 12:49 is don't get furious get curious 12:52 so don't be mad at yourself but ask 12:54 think about it like it just 72:24 it just comes out and i don't really 72:26 know where it comes from it's almost 72:27 like 72:28 you know like spider-man like 72:30 discovering that if he goes like this 72:31 he's got the web 72:32 it's like you know it's that it's that 72:34 like i didn't even know 72:35 i mean but even even spider-man is like 72:37 a he's a showman 72:38 you know he's like an entertainer so 72:40 like you want to see that show you want 72:42 the costume you want the whole thing 72:44 and so for me that's why i [ __ ] love 72:46 dolly parton 72:48 is because she has it all that to me is 72:51 just an ultimate icon because she's 72:52 never lied 72:53 her songs are the truth even if they 72:56 don't resonate with her now 72:57 like maybe they're she's attacked from 72:59 something she's written before that's 73:00 what happens when you have a career like 73:01 that's as expanded as hers but she 73:04 just found this balance of being 73:07 she is a superhero like she almost has a 73:10 character but it's 73:11 true and that's why i love drag queens 73:14 because 73:15 that's what debbie harry loves 73:16 jacqueline's debbie harry when she 73:17 created blondie 73:18 that was creating like a drag character 73:20 because she's like you know i'm like 73:22 in a dirty band t-shirt in my apartment 73:25 writing songs but like when i become 73:27 blondie 73:28 and then that makes it sound different i 73:30 write songs in like all different ways 73:31 but like when i write songs 73:33 not only do i see color but like i'll 73:36 see what lipstick i have on because i 73:37 see 73:38 the who's gonna whose mouth it's gonna 73:40 come out of like i see 73:42 not the person that's like you know last 73:43 night i was in a you know a sweatshirt 73:45 like recording stevie nicks 73:46 but i'm not in my mind in my mind i'm 73:50 not in my mind we are like in our witch 73:52 realness and like i'm totally in 73:55 stevie's vibe and i've got a hat on 73:57 and my hair is long and i'm like the 74:00 moon is full 74:01 and there's like wild dogs everywhere 74:04 and we're part of it and we're one of 74:06 them and that's what i where i am i'm 74:08 not in here so like 74:10 wow really like when i write a song 74:12 that's why sometimes it's even nice 74:14 to write in unfamiliar places like you 74:15 know i'll write i'll that's why i said i 74:17 don't really write songs in here that 74:18 much yeah like i don't really write 74:20 songs in the studio i write songs in the 74:21 car because they're just gonna come to 74:22 you 74:23 like you know but i think by feeling 74:26 that because in a song like when you're 74:28 writing a song you can go anywhere 74:29 in your like imagination yeah look when 74:32 we spoke three years ago i was like oh 74:34 we're gonna get to this 74:35 and so this is another step towards this 74:37 and it's like just to be in a situation 74:39 where i 74:40 have no idea what time it is i haven't 74:42 thought about it for a second 74:44 for me it's just like been a very fluid 74:46 conversation 74:47 about process around this album which 74:50 really 74:51 just finds you at a point in your life 74:53 where it's 74:54 self-awareness and acceptance 74:58 and freedom acceptance keeps finding me 75:01 like 75:01 that word it's the it's the eyes without 75:04 a face of words 75:05 it will not quit like everywhere i go 75:08 and 75:08 mindfulness yeah so mindfulness is 75:11 following me also 75:12 like i got just totally zoned into 75:15 mindfulness over the last maybe four 75:17 weeks and it's changed my life 75:18 and my final thing that i'll say of 75:20 what's been extremely helpful to me is 75:22 the best way to stay open is to never 75:25 close 75:26 so last night i had to say that to 75:28 myself repeatedly when i was like 75:30 cutting midnight sky i don't know what 75:31 it was it was something about it that 75:33 i don't know what i was really getting 75:34 like creatively blocked and like 75:36 for some reason when midnight sky 75:38 started playing i just started crying 75:39 like i don't even really know why i 75:40 guess maybe the 75:41 the fact that stevie nicks is on the 75:43 record like blew my mind but i also 75:45 i don't want to be an amateur therapist 75:46 but also it came out at a pretty 75:47 dramatic time for your family when you 75:48 lost someone close to you around the 75:49 scene yeah 75:50 i realized that the person that wrote it 75:54 isn't the person that's recunting it now 75:56 and listening to it and the way that's 75:57 already and that made me sad you know 76:00 because i was like 76:01 i'm listening to it and a lot has 76:03 changed already 76:05 like when things are different i'm 76:07 really affected by it 76:08 and like just by losing someone 76:11 relationship 76:12 changes obviously there's a big change 76:14 in the country going on like a 76:16 exchange of power and there's just all 76:18 this going on and i'm like last night 76:20 when the song started playing 76:22 in a way when i wrote it i mean but it's 76:24 just 76:25 another one we remember the past better 76:28 than it was 76:29 present worse than it is and future more 76:31 resolved than it ever will be 76:33 and so when i look at the past i'm like 76:35 when i wrote that song 76:36 it was simpler times and these are so 76:38 complicated there was a laundry list if 76:41 you would have asked me when i wrote 76:42 midnight sky 76:43 that's why i was writing it was i just 76:45 want to be in control of my narrative so 76:47 bad 76:47 i i hate when the media creates my 76:51 autobiography for me like no stop 76:53 writing my life that's what creates the 76:54 anxiety though 76:55 exactly that is the root of it which 76:57 ultimately man if it's one thing i'm 76:59 learning as i'm growing as i'm getting 77:00 on in my life and and my kids are 77:02 growing up and everything else it's like 77:04 as and where you can apply those two 77:07 words 77:08 that sit there just waiting to be used 77:09 and are always at arm's reach 77:11 which i'll let go yeah i love that 77:12 that's why i wrote you know on my record 77:14 it's like i think you're really gonna 77:15 like this record 77:16 but if you don't [ __ ] you because it's 77:18 like i [ __ ] love it and 77:20 i think there is a balance i think that 77:21 is the car like to me like the best 77:24 you know carly simon like i love you're 77:26 so vain because i love that the chorus 77:28 you know that's as iconic as happy 77:30 birthday like that is like the simplest 77:32 most mainstream amazing but the verses 77:34 are so 77:34 weird and like so storytelling and 77:37 that's the one thing that i thought 77:38 me andrew watt andrew wyatt 77:41 mark ronson you know we really found 77:45 on this album is that i dolly parton 77:48 i've inherited this song writing i grew 77:50 up listening johnny cash i grew up with 77:52 nina john jett 77:53 and i i have that in me but also 77:56 like i've also grown up listening to 77:58 gwen stefani who really did that kind of 78:00 best you know she got to just have the 78:02 best of both worlds to not be ashamed of 78:04 anything yeah 78:05 um she really did and how to find that 78:07 merch how to be 78:08 everything how to be the melting pot of 78:10 everything that i've ever loved 78:12 and not be ashamed of like some of my 78:14 guilty pleasures of music that you know 78:16 that i've wanted to 78:17 that have inspired me and like how to 78:18 make it my own and just a sense of like 78:20 the shame just it doesn't it's not 78:22 helpful so i guess what 78:24 started that tangent was that originally 78:27 the shame came out 78:28 and now i'm just getting a little more 78:30 hyper aware to go like oh no i actually 78:31 don't feel that way detached attached 78:33 from that i 78:34 have a fear of writing new music because 78:37 what i've been is so 78:38 large um not anymore 78:42 no i'm really excited for this record to 78:44 come out because it's just 78:45 i it's the most proud i could be of 78:47 anything and you know again 78:49 i just feel like just so much gratitude 78:52 towards the collaborators who helped me 78:53 create it 78:54 you know here's the thing you'll make 78:55 another one yeah and another one 78:57 i already am i already am this song was 79:00 this 79:01 album was 12 songs long somehow i think 79:03 it's 15 right now 79:04 it's i've added three songs since it 79:06 came out twelve plus two covers 79:08 twelve two covers and now midnight's 79:09 guys stevie nicks 79:11 so now when i printed this record two 79:14 weeks ago 79:15 it was a twelve song album it's 15. so 79:18 that's the great thing about digital 79:19 you're already making another one i can 79:20 just keep 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you need to make a statement 13:11 either way i guess so i 13:13 didn't choose to make a statement i 13:15 think that 13:16 somehow i remember it was like a couple 13:18 months ago and i was doing an interview 13:20 18 you came out of this world at a young 14:20 age where it was like you can't be 14:21 malleable 14:22 yeah i know exactly yeah it's a very 14:25 obvious observation yeah apologies if it's just pure cliche do you make do you 14:29 down to the animals i mean i just 24:35 like when i love i am very loyal to 24:38 people i mean you could tell this by any 24:40 time you see me or any of my team or you 24:42 know i'm a loyal person 24:45 but there's times you know where it says 24:47 you know is it wrong that in my mind i 24:49 walk the line

3:32 / 1:19:24 Transcript 00:01 [Music] 00:12 this place is cool 00:13 thank you so much i am at some point i'm 00:16 gonna 00:17 this wall is gonna go away and i'm gonna 00:19 make a big like songwriting deck out 00:20 there because i'd like to go outside we 00:21 have a little mini spot out there 00:23 but my mom came in here and spruced the 00:26 place up 00:27 and she's obsessed with putting like 00:28 photos of me with all these 00:30 people everywhere so this is like a 00:31 mother's doing i love how you came 00:33 straight in and you like and you 00:34 zeroed in on the thing that i would have 00:36 gone to and you've justified it without 00:37 me even raising it it's my [ __ ] 00:39 mother 00:40 came here today i'm like yo why because 00:41 my mom 00:43 she just is like you know she wants me 00:44 to be proud of my moments but it's just 00:46 very 00:46 like it's cute in her house but in my 00:48 house i feel like it's kind of like a 00:50 like a whole dentist you know when you 00:52 go and you're like i don't really care 00:53 whose teeth you clean like you go to 00:55 that dentist as well yeah can you clean 00:56 teeth or not 00:57 i don't care about the pictures on the 00:58 wall it's so lay how you doing 01:00 i'm doing really good i'm happy to be 01:02 talking to you you too 01:03 i was thinking it's nice actually out of 01:05 all the times you know 01:07 covid has just been just so hard on 01:10 everybody whether it's 01:12 actually physically getting the illness 01:14 or 01:15 just mentally and spiritually or you 01:18 know so many people are just 01:19 experiencing anxiety and fear but 01:22 the one great thing is you know to bring 01:25 you to 01:26 my studio bring you to my home yeah 01:28 we've never been able to sit where i was 01:30 thrilled 01:31 the music really gets i mean when it 01:32 came into my diary and it's i was like 01:33 where are we doing it 01:34 and they're like well it's it's at 01:36 miley's place i was thrilled because 01:37 you're right it started out in our place 01:39 and then it was covert orientated tech 01:41 talk 01:41 yeah i don't like that especially with 01:43 you and me you know you want to have a 01:44 real conversation and 01:46 i think with that i think timing is 01:49 everything 01:50 you know i learned that whether that was 01:52 in love or 01:54 relationships or just comedy i mean just 01:57 even to 01:58 to make people laugh to make people cry 02:00 there's a timing to all of it 02:01 and when you lose that timing and that 02:03 connection and that awareness of okay 02:06 i'm sensing what you're feeling you're 02:07 sensing what i'm feeling 02:09 when you lose that i think that's what's 02:11 kind of been causing some of this 02:12 anxiety and fear because there's an 02:14 unknowingness of the response 02:17 you lose that when you're talking 02:19 through a screen well the core of 02:20 anxiety and fears 02:21 is a desire for control and we put that 02:24 in the same conversation as time 02:26 yeah and that's why when things happen 02:27 to you it's like oh i have the worst 02:28 timing 02:29 yeah i can't believe this time that 02:30 happened yeah and it's interesting that 02:32 you would look at it from a different 02:33 perspective of like 02:34 actually i lean into the concept of time 02:36 even if at the time 02:37 it felt like a bad time also i think 02:39 there's something about 02:40 you kind of fall into the right timing 02:43 and i think there's been times where 02:45 i've wanted to rush in times where i 02:47 wanted to wait 02:48 and there's just seasons and that's been 02:51 this record for me because 02:53 this record i really was patient with 02:56 and patience you could probably get a 02:58 lot of adjectives of the things that i 03:00 am 03:00 but patient i don't think if you ask 03:02 anyone around me would necessarily be 03:04 you were sort of pushed in that 03:05 direction right because 03:07 it's so funny i was thinking back to the 03:09 last time we really spoke 03:10 well around the last album which was 03:11 younger now album album and it's funny 03:13 that title you know because i think 03:14 about like 03:15 you were really you were on a mission to 03:17 mature and to build a life for yourself 03:19 to stabilize yourself 03:20 and you called that album younger now 03:22 and it all just felt very at odds and 03:24 then 2018 the whole thing just tips 03:26 upside down as you wrote so poignantly 03:27 in your note 03:28 and i think about that that's a push 03:30 toward patience because that's about 03:32 losing control you can't control that 03:33 that must have been the problem with 03:34 looking back on it now the most 03:35 significant one of the most significant 03:37 events of your life that fire 03:38 i write down everything like i my dad 03:40 always says you know when you write it 03:41 down when you say it out loud you give 03:43 it power 03:44 you begin to create it the minute that 03:46 you write it down so i write everything 03:47 down 03:48 you know i did write about i guess it 03:50 was a push into patience but 03:51 it's now a part of my character and it's 03:54 something that i really 03:56 am proud of and it i feel it was earned 03:59 um 04:00 to be patient and as much as there's 04:03 things that 04:04 i'll miss it really what i 04:07 gained which patients being one of them 04:10 was worth it 04:11 in a sense finding a balance of feeling 04:14 detached 04:16 but still being able to connect yeah you 04:18 know yeah 04:19 i would never want someone to say you 04:21 know she just wasn't there with me she 04:23 just 04:23 you know i i do have a problem with 04:25 people that that think being protected 04:28 or guarding yourself in some way is 04:30 detachment is attachment because 04:31 if you don't protect yourself then like 04:33 take all the locks off your house 04:34 leave the keys in the car sure don't 04:36 wear shoes on your feet well also you 04:38 have a right to keep something to 04:39 yourself 04:39 i mean you or yourself before anybody 04:41 came into your life ultimately outside 04:43 you know the family that you have and 04:44 even then the minute you're born it's 04:45 your journey mm-hmm 04:46 and i wonder i've always wanted to ask 04:48 you this as you now get to a higher 04:50 state of self-awareness through your 04:51 music through your life through learning 04:53 through relationships through all of it 04:54 through maturity right it's called 04:55 maturity 04:56 do you look back now on what you were 04:59 told by your parents 05:00 what you how you acted as a kid the kind 05:02 of kid you were from that you know they 05:04 all 05:04 just had the earliest memories have you 05:06 always been this 05:07 no i mean i am not the person i was 05:10 yesterday 05:11 you know last night sitting behind you 05:14 cutting with stevie nicks on the phone 05:16 that changed me forever you know 05:17 everything changes me forever 05:19 and i'll never be 05:22 who i was yesterday in a way every night 05:26 before i go to sleep i say goodbye to 05:27 myself in a way because it's like 05:29 that person's done and there's like a 05:31 sadness to it sometimes because 05:34 i do evolve really quickly because i'm 05:37 very absorbent like i just take 05:39 everything in 05:40 yeah and recently i've had to do 05:42 inventory 05:43 of what i've owned as mine that isn't 05:46 mine because i think like you're saying 05:49 your parents so 05:50 whether it's generational or the way 05:52 that you're raised or you know 05:54 you you really do get passed through dna 05:56 yeah personality and character even fear 05:59 yeah nature versus nurture for sure you 06:01 know exactly nature versus nurture and 06:03 we're all just an equation of all those 06:05 things adding up 06:06 you know the last three years i called 06:09 it the 06:10 the cocktail of chaos because it just 06:12 felt like the worst bartender ever 06:15 which was like as the universe yeah 06:17 sometimes just kept pouring the [ __ ] and 06:19 you're like oh my god like can't drink 06:21 any more of this [ __ ] yeah and you're 06:22 just like you know 06:25 you're dizzy often that's what i mean 06:26 like when we spoke in 2017 and the album 06:28 was coming out 06:29 and you were just like i got this like i 06:32 got the relationship i got the album i 06:33 got that life i'm good 06:35 yeah and then and life just laughs it's 06:38 like 06:38 you're not done yet you know i i kind of 06:41 hate the saying but also love it that 06:43 when you make the plan 06:44 that life you know laughs at you because 06:45 i do think there's something to having 06:47 an idea of what you want and like 06:49 setting a goal and seeing it 06:51 you know i daydream a lot daydreaming 06:54 and like 06:54 seeing it all happen but not 06:58 letting it completely consume you to the 07:00 point where there's no other 07:01 opportunities you exactly and become 07:03 i never let an idea or a schedule 07:07 determine my creative choices so 07:10 listen like i made a record you and i 07:13 had talked during younger now 07:14 and then i was going and making a set of 07:16 three eps which were 07:18 amazing i was in love with the songs you 07:21 know but 07:22 those two eps weren't relevant anymore 07:24 and even though i loved the songs for 07:26 what they were 07:27 they lost their relevance so to me i 07:29 can't ever release that 07:30 is the only thing that you did in that 07:32 equation that that doesn't play to how 07:33 you would do that now is you announced 07:35 it 07:35 yeah when you announce it you get power 07:37 that's the plan 07:38 yeah exactly and then it goes upside 07:40 down i didn't realize you lost stuff 07:42 though oh yeah so every computer 07:44 every journal every song i've ever 07:46 written you know and i write a lot of 07:48 songs 07:49 that no one ever hears they're just for 07:51 me actually yesterday i was going 07:52 through i have a joan jett book and 07:55 i was looking at some pictures of her 07:56 getting inspired and i was like 07:58 we had the exact same handwriting and i 08:00 realized it was my handwriting i had 08:02 used her book 08:03 as my songwriting journal so if you know 08:05 if i don't have anything you just 08:07 pick up a record and just right i was 08:08 right on it and so i was like man 08:10 me and joan do have a lot in common i 08:12 even have her handwriting and then i 08:14 realized that's my handwriting yeah i do 08:16 not remember her writing about like 08:18 you know floating through space with an 08:19 astronaut so that was like 08:21 in my dead pet studio i had had a book 08:24 sitting here on this console 08:25 this console survived the fire this is 08:27 from my studio in malibu 08:29 and um yeah my dad actually was like can 08:32 i have that 08:33 i'm like dude this is what i the one 08:35 thing that we really had left 08:36 was my freaking console it's mine he's 08:38 like i know but i just got the perfect 08:40 compressor i need a place to put it 08:42 like you have to get your own damn 08:43 console this is like because my studio 08:45 was the only 08:47 thing that was left so this kind of from 08:49 here 08:50 and those signs those were that's a sign 08:53 that's the only thing i had left was my 08:54 studio that's all that was left was my 08:55 music 08:56 wow oddly you know i didn't have a lot 08:58 of my songwriting journals 09:00 in my studio because that's never i mean 09:02 for me that's never where i write a song 09:03 i never write a song in the studio can i 09:05 ask you a really weird question i've 09:06 never asked anyone because it was such a 09:08 such a unique experience that you go 09:09 through something as kind of traumatic 09:10 and life shaking as that 09:12 what is it like when you walk through 09:14 what used to be a home 09:15 dude i mean part of you wants to just 09:19 start digging through ashes 09:20 and find whatever is left you know so 09:23 part of me wants to do that and part of 09:25 you creates 09:26 the the walls and the what was there and 09:30 you can almost see pictures i mean 09:32 part of you you're i guess it's somewhat 09:34 of muscle memory of some kind you know 09:37 it starts putting it all back together 09:39 again 09:40 and then a part of you is very peaceful 09:42 i also am very 09:43 fortunate because i knew that i would 09:46 have some place to go that i would not 09:48 be displaced yeah and now so your 09:49 security's checked 09:51 my security is fine and i know that 09:53 about my life 09:54 i never stop being grateful for that 09:57 my life is extremely unique and i'm 10:00 sometimes feel overly fortunate 10:02 and i had my own guilt with that you 10:04 know so 10:05 being there there was a sense of peace 10:07 knowing that there was nothing i could 10:09 do about it 10:10 because there's times where me wanting 10:11 to control has been able for me to 10:13 create this authentic brand i never do 10:15 anything that i don't want to do 10:17 my music is exactly what i want it to be 10:18 being in control a lot of the time works 10:20 in my favor 10:21 but being obsessed with control can also 10:23 be really damaging to just being 10:26 in what the plan that the above has for 10:28 you so 10:29 i battled with that but i more so 10:33 i really felt at peace knowing that 10:35 there's nothing i can do about it and 10:37 i've taken that piece and i try to find 10:39 that 10:40 space because there's a billion other 10:43 times in your life that there's gonna be 10:45 nothing that you can do about it 10:46 having that that freedom now of not 10:49 being 10:50 just so in love with control has been 10:53 really good for me yeah it's funny you 10:54 talk about that because 10:56 if i go through and i read it from an 10:58 altitude and i said cherry pick the 11:00 events that we've all seen and heard 11:02 that's the trade of being a performer i 11:04 suppose is that 11:05 stuff gets put out here it does feel 11:07 like the moments when things have taken 11:09 you in a vastly different direction to 11:10 be the moments when you've 11:12 on the outside have being in complete 11:13 control uh-huh yeah well i 11:15 i thrive in in chaos a little bit and i 11:19 also 11:19 i don't like making decisions this is 11:22 one thing that i don't like 11:23 i do not like someone asked me to go to 11:25 dinner you choose 11:27 like i do not like me oh that's annoying 11:29 i don't like making decisions that's 11:30 because i really am kind of happy 11:31 anywhere right 11:32 i just am and until you're not until 11:34 until i'm like this place 11:35 sucks but i'm like so obviously really 11:39 i really like people kind of i mean when 11:42 it comes to my music into my 11:43 craft i really really like making my own 11:46 choices and making my own art but those 11:47 aren't really decisions 11:48 you know those aren't to me those aren't 11:50 decisions they're probably very big 11:51 decisions if you're not 11:52 used to making them all the time but 11:53 like putting out music to me isn't a big 11:55 decision it's like 11:56 it just is like it's just flowing out 11:58 constantly so i liked that 12:00 i never had to make a choice about 12:03 saying goodbye to that house it just 12:04 said goodbye to me there was no choice 12:06 in it and i really liked that about 12:08 about the non-decision-making process so 12:10 it's been a year 12:11 i mean if this is still the case and no 12:13 judgment but from what i can tell it's 12:14 been a year since you chose 12:15 sobriety right since you decided to 12:17 clear your head yeah how did it feel 12:19 when you started to wake up and realize 12:20 that that was working 12:22 well i like a lot of people you know 12:24 being completely honest during the 12:26 pandemic fell off and felt really 12:30 a lot of you know and i would never sit 12:31 here and go i've been [ __ ] sober and 12:33 i didn't and i fell off and i 12:35 realized that i now 12:39 am back on sobriety two weeks sober and 12:42 you know i feel like i really 12:46 accepted that time and one of the things 12:48 i've used 12:49 is don't get furious get curious 12:52 so don't be mad at yourself but ask 12:54

come out because it's just 78:45 i it's the most proud i could be of 78:47 anything and you know again 78:49 i just feel like just so much gratitude 78:52 towards the collaborators who helped me 78:53 create it 78:54 you know here's the thing you'll make 78:55 another one yeah and another one 78:57 i already am i already am this song was 79:00 this 79:01 album was 12 songs long somehow i think 79:03 it's 15 right now 79:04 it's i've added three songs since it 79:06 came out twelve plus two covers 79:08 twelve two covers and now midnight's 79:09 guys stevie nicks 79:11 so now when i printed this record two 79:14 weeks ago 79:15 it was a twelve song album it's 15. so 79:18 that's the great thing about digital 79:19 you're already making another one i can 79:20 just keep adding i love it English (auto-generated) #MileyCyrus #PlasticHearts #ZaneLowe Miley Cyrus - Apple Music ‘Plastic Hearts’ Interview 790,722 views •Nov 24, 2020 35K325SHARESAVE Miley Cyrus 15.1M subscribers SUBSCRIBE Miley Cyrus sits down with Apple Music’s Zane Lowe in her home studio to talk about her seventh album, ‘Plastic Hearts.’ Miley shares the major themes throughout this record and the life ex

life or you're removed from it because 21:09 your senses aren't really so attached to those memories anymore and so i always hated making physical records i'm so happy that we've moved into a new way of putting out music especially if you say goodbye to especially if you say goodbye to yourself every night and that's what i'm saying by the time 21:22 look dude this is daily that i that i change you know and i actually really don't like when people you know say that it's being fickle or you don't get to just decide you know actually me and why

Through a higher sense of self awareness.. Miley Cyrus is giving a lot of tips on what exercises to help spiritual growth. I'm going to make notes. So Zane asks her what she thinks about whatever her parents taught her as a child. How does she look back on it. Has she always been this way? Transcript 00:01 [Music] 00:12 this place is cool 00:13 thank you so much i am at some point i'm 00:16 gonna 00:17 this wall is gonna go away and i'm gonna 00:19 make a big like songwriting deck out 00:20 there because i'd like to go outside we 00:21 have a little mini spot out there 00:23 but my mom came in here and spruced the 00:26 place up 00:27 and she's obsessed with putting like 00:28 photos of me with all these 00:30 people everywhere so this is like a 00:31 mother's doing i love how you came 00:33 straight in and you like and you 00:34 zeroed in on the thing that i would have 00:36 gone to and you've justified it without 00:37 me even raising it it's my [ __ ] 00:39 mother 00:40 came here today i'm like yo why because 00:41 my mom 00:43 she just is like you know she wants me 00:44 to be proud of my moments but it's just 00:46 very 00:46 like it's cute in her house but in my 00:48 house i feel like it's kind of like a 00:50 like a whole dentist you know when you 00:52 go and you're like i don't really care 00:53 whose teeth you clean like you go to 00:55 that dentist as well yeah can you clean 00:56 teeth or not 00:57 i don't care about the pictures on the 00:58 wall it's so lay how you doing 01:00 i'm doing really good i'm happy to be 01:02 talking to you you too 01:03 i was thinking it's nice actually out of 01:05 all the times you know 01:07 covid has just been just so hard on 01:10 everybody whether it's 01:12 actually physically getting the illness 01:14 or 01:15 just mentally and spiritually or you 01:18 know so many people are just 01:19 experiencing anxiety and fear but 01:22 the one great thing is you know to bring 01:25 you to 01:26 my studio bring you to my home yeah 01:28 we've never been able to sit where i was 01:30 thrilled 01:31 the music really gets i mean when it 01:32 came into my diary and it's i was like 01:33 where are we doing it 01:34 and they're like well it's it's at 01:36 miley's place i was thrilled because 01:37 you're right it started out in our place 01:39 and then it was covert orientated tech 01:41 talk 01:41 yeah i don't like that especially with 01:43 you and me you know you want to have a 01:44 real conversation and 01:46 i think with that i think timing is 01:49 everything 01:50 you know i learned that whether that was 01:52 in love or 01:54 relationships or just comedy i mean just 01:57 even to 01:58 to make people laugh to make people cry 02:00 there's a timing to all of it 02:01 and when you lose that timing and that 02:03 connection and that awareness of okay 02:06 i'm sensing what you're feeling you're 02:07 Transcript 00:01 [Music] 00:12 this place is cool 00:13 thank you so much i am at some point i'm 00:16 gonna 00:17 this wall is gonna go away and i'm gonna 00:19 make a big like songwriting deck out 00:20 there because i'd like to go outside we 00:21 have a little mini spot out there 00:23 but my mom came in here and spruced the 00:26 place up 00:27 and she's obsessed with putting like 00:28 photos of me with all these 00:30 people everywhere so this is like a 00:31 mother's doing i love how you came 00:33 straight in and you like and you 00:34 zeroed in on the thing that i would have 00:36 gone to and you've justified it without 00:37 me even raising it it's my [ __ ] 00:39 mother 00:40 came here today i'm like yo why because 00:41 my mom 00:43 she just is like you know she wants me 00:44 to be proud of my moments but it's just 00:46 very 00:46 like it's cute in her house but in my 00:48 house i feel like it's kind of like a 00:50 like a whole dentist you know when you 00:52 go and you're like i don't really care 00:53 whose teeth you clean like you go to 00:55 that dentist as well yeah can you clean 00:56 teeth or not 00:57 i don't care about the pictures on the 00:58 wall it's so lay how you doing 01:00 i'm doing really good i'm happy to be 01:02 talking to you you too 01:03 i was thinking it's nice actually out of 01:05 all the times you know 01:07 covid has just been just so hard on 01:10 everybody whether it's 01:12 actually physically getting the illness 01:14 or 01:15 just mentally and spiritually or you 01:18 know so many people are just 01:19 experiencing anxiety and fear but 01:22 the one great thing is you know to bring 01:25 you to 01:26 my studio bring you to my home yeah 01:28 we've never been able to sit where i was 01:30 thrilled 01:31 the music really gets i mean when it 01:32 came into my diary and it's i was like 01:33 where are we doing it 01:34 and they're like well it's it's at 01:36 miley's place i was thrilled because 01:37 you're right it started out in our place 01:39 and then it was covert orientated tech 01:41 talk 01:41 yeah i don't like that especially with 01:43 you and me you know you want to have a 01:44 real conversation and 01:46 i think with that i think timing is 01:49 everything 01:50

Through a higher sense of self awareness.. Miley Cyrus is giving a lot of tips on what exercises to help spiritual growth. I'm going to make notes. So Zane asks her what she thinks about whatever her parents taught her as a child. How does she look back on it. Has she always been this way? Transcript 00:01 [Music] 00:12 this place is cool 00:13 thank you so much i am at some point i'm 00:16 gonna 00:17 this wall is gonna go away and i'm gonna 00:19 make a big like songwriting deck out 00:20 there because i'd like to go outside we 00:21 have a little mini spot out there 00:23 but my mom came in here and spruced the 00:26 place up 00:27 and she's obsessed with putting like 00:28 photos of me with all these 00:30 people everywhere so this is like a 00:31 mother's doing i love how you came 00:33 straight in and you like and you 00:34 zeroed in on the thing that i would have 00:36 gone to and you've justified it without 00:37 me even raising it it's my [ __ ] 00:39 mother 00:40 came here today i'm like yo why because 00:41 my mom 00:43 she just is like you know she wants me 00:44 to be proud of my moments but it's just 00:46 very 00:46 like it's cute in her house but in my 00:48 house i feel like it's kind of like a 00:50 like a whole dentist you know when you 00:52 go and you're like i don't really care 00:53 whose teeth you clean like you go to 00:55 that dentist as well yeah can you clean 00:56 teeth or not 00:57 i don't care about the pictures on the 00:58 wall it's so lay how you doing 01:00 i'm doing really good i'm happy to be 01:02 talking to you you too 01:03 i was thinking it's nice actually out of 01:05 all the times you know 01:07 covid has just been just so hard on 01:10 everybody whether it's 01:12 actually physically getting the illness 01:14 or 01:15 just mentally and spiritually or you 01:18 know so many people are just 01:19 experiencing anxiety and fear but 01:22 the one great thing is you know to bring 01:25 you to 01:26 my studio bring you to my home yeah 01:28 we've never been able to sit where i was 01:30 thrilled 01:31 the music really gets i mean when it 01:32 came into my diary and it's i was like 01:33 where are we doing it 01:34 and they're like well it's it's at 01:36 miley's place i was thrilled because 01:37 you're right it started out in our place 01:39 and then it was covert orientated tech 01:41 talk 01:41 yeah i don't like that especially with 01:43 you and me you know you want to have a 01:44 real conversation and 01:46 i think with that i think timing is 01:49 everything 01:50 you know i learned that whether that was 01:52 in love or 01:54 relationships or just comedy i mean just 01:57 even to 01:58 to make people laugh to make people cry 02:00 there's a timing to all of it 02:01 and when you lose that timing and that 02:03 connection and that awareness of okay 02:06 i'm sensing what you're feeling you're 02:07

I came from such poverty and I came so far. I always wanted to grow grow grow. I worked so hard, even to the point of death, to come to a point where I could make sense of everything. It was my determination. I think it's really paying off now royally.

In the past week I came across Paris Hilton and now Miley Cyrus. I can't believe it. It's like one after another. Yesss. These are young women of our generation. And I always thought I couldn't relate to them because they are too rich for me to even think about them. But loooooook. They say things that are so relevant. Paris talked about PTSD 5 months ago and I was diagnosed with PTSD just 10 days ago. I could relate to every fucking thing she said. This is such a synchronicity. I can't believe this. The universe is just getting closer and closer and more synchronous clues are popping up. And now Miley Cyrus. All her insights have been living up in my head since past few weeks. This is truly amazing. I'm closing in on the root of my fears and issues. Yay finally.

March 2, 2021. God showed me this video at the right opportunity. This is it. This is the Ultimate Spiritual. Omg Miley Cyrus is really growing and growing super fast. I need to really follow her growth. Queen Sass. She has come a long way since Hannah Montana. Omg she was my favorite with Hannah Montana but I wasn't upset with her changing. I love her authenticity and integrity. That's absolutely, hands down the most important thing on the path of spirituality.

Omg I'm crying so bad right now. She is saying exactly what I wanted to say. Covid caused so much anxiety. And then she says everything that I wanted to say, ditto. Just 5 seconds in, she says "you wanna have a real conversation" "and with that timing is everything. I learned that whether it's love, relationships or just comedy, to make people laugh, to make cry, there is a timing to all of it and when you lose that timing and that connection, and that awareness that okay I'm sensing what you are feeling, and you're sensing what I'm feeling, when you lose that, I think that's whats been causing some of this anxiety, the fear, because there is an unknowingness of the response, you lose that when you are talking to a screen. " And I remember a few weeks ago I wrote in one of my journals that if I have to adopt a certain look it would consist of dark painted long nails, lots of rings or specific finger rings, and a sweater or a shrug. Just the winter look. And now look at Miley Cyrus's hands. Oh my Goodness. She is rocking the dark painted nails in jet black with loads of rings. If this is not a sign then I don't know what is.

Omg I can't believe this is happening. Right at the pinnacle of my spiritual evolution I come across this video of Miley Cyrus. I had been imagining myself as a girl maturing and blossoming into someone with a cowboy hat and boots and not giving a fuck about what the world thinks and simply focused on my own spiritual growth. And here it is, just in time, comes in this interview where I see Miley Cyrus personifying what I had been imagining. Not only the outer aesthetics in terms of her simple shirt and boots but also her voice and mannerisms, all dribbling with maturity, I can't believe it. I'm seeing my alter ego right in front of my eyes, my spiritually evolved alter ego. I can imagine myself in an underground rugged basement studio with a mic stand and me screaming a song at the top of my lungs and dancing around in jeans and boots and not thinking about the world even for a second. Just soaking up who I am and wanting to connect with God in the most genuine way possible. Omg. This is great. Covid was so hard on me.

Miley Cyrus is the only singer that I really like among the new crop of singers I'm just such a fan of Miley Cyrus. Real talent girl This is the best song so far. The way she matured, amazing girl. She puts a beautiful nostalgic 80s effect on this song. Best so far in her career.

Busted! You've a powerful baritone voice.

A rant on the modern evolving pop music industry in America and the globe. I am getting this feeling that people who look like 12 year Olds are entering music. They look like kids, they belt out easy peppy songs that teens and kids would love with lots of energy and vacuous meaningless lyrics backed by loud vocals and this seems to be the new trend of music these days. I first heard Lady Gaga like 10 years ago and back then she was okay. But I likened her to Madonna.. Is this some kind of a family heritage being passed on? I mean I felt like Justin Bieber was so young. And he always looks young like a teen, as though these people never seem to grow up. They look plastic, manufactured, robotic like factory goods and puppets being churned out one after another with no unique taste, totally commercialized, all looking alike, it gets boring and just fake. The newest on the block is Ava Max and she looks like a copycat Lady Gaga. There are many more to come that will look like Justin Bieber. Lady Gaga has degraded super fast and her creativity has hugely declined since she first came. Now she looks like a caricature. Beyonce was at least better but now looks too old to perform. Can we have someone like Michael Jackson? The last best singer I remember was Mariah Carey but she is gone far back in time. I still listen to her songs. But it doesn't have the connect because obviously it's old. The 90s were quite bad in comparison to the 80s but now it's much much worse even when compared to the 90s When I listen to the 80s and 70s it's far better than the autotune bullshit of today. Prince was right. Autotune destroyed an entire Industry. Now the music industry has taken the fast food route. Everything feels like it's been bought from Burger King or Macdonalds. Can we get something really creative unique which is also healthy. Every white female singer would be a copy of Lady Gaga. Every white male singer would be a copy of Justin Bieber Every black female singer rapper would be a copy of Nicki Minaj Every black male singer rapper would be a copy of Chris Brown. I'm getting fed up with this trend. It's all the same music regurgitated every time like getting the same burger every day. And the same love songs. The same breakup songs. The same peppy songs. The same trash songs. I stopped listening like 5 years ago. Honestly there are people out there, unknown artists that make better music and are nothing like these stereotype robotic factory made singers and musicians. It feels like people are being turned into packaged products. So tragic. Art was the only thing that channeled our emotions and spiritualities. And now that has been exploited and capitalized to the hilt. Few good songs here and there. Much is just trash. I'm a good listener of music with not much access to all kinds of music and I like something new once in a while because I have already listened to old songs millions of times. I need new Playlists every month There was a time when I couldn't fit in any enough songs on the Playlist on my computer because there were too many tempting songs. And now it's a time I struggle to find a song to add to my Playlist. I'm generally eliminating rather than adding. sigh. I thought humanity could do better. This technology shit is not good for music. It removes the need for hard work and dedication and replaces with some used up chunk as a filler. All the music sounds the same and devoid of emotion or intellect. I'm losing precious brain cells that took so hard to form. All because some cash money record label wants to make tons of money out of deadbeat tracks. I swear the moment these money grubbing cash labels joined the industry, the music quality went south. Not gonna continue listening to trash music. Not gonna download your commercial fake shallow repetitive techno garbage. Remove all this technology and replace with natural music. Why do they need to make 15 trash songs in a year. They could make Just 1 good song instead, but of course they can't make money that way. I'm sick of all this. Destroyed my taste in music.