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@Nahm I need to know your zodiac sign. Care to tell? You're too moochy moochy and loving. (moochy is a slang for lovey dovey)

With responses like this, I don't believe this is a supportive community, sorry.. Back to watching TV..

@Mason Riggle why should I change my behavior? Why shouldn't I just be myself and true to myself? Why should I adjust to the trolls? Am living for them or am I living for myself? This is like saying don't kill the pests in the home. Learn to live with them and adjust with them. No. I think you need pest control.

I kinda agree with you more than others You provided some constructive feedback thanks. Still if someone has technical solutions that would be great too.. Will wait for that

Ok as a general reply, at this point i am going to have to stop I don't like this back and forth that I'm doing with you guys. It's not leading anywhere. Now to @Leo Gura.. If he does something about this as a long term solution, then well and good. If he doesn't do anything about it, then I would just think that all my effort in bringing light to a problem and also suggesting some technical ideas was simply a waste of my effort. Alright. I end it here. I'm not replying anymore because so far most replies and reactions are hinged on looking away from the problem rather than looking at the problem. By the way, some mods who I have communicated with already know that this a problem This is not something out of the blue. You guys can keep arguing among yourselves.. I can enjoy some TV in the meantime. Have a nice day everyone. Peace out. ✌️

I don't believe this. I think constructive and technical solutions are needed. It's not some simple problem of being annoyed or all that It's a problem that must have a proper solution. Not a perfect solution but a substantial solution. Don't think of this me being injured. Think of me giving feedback about this forum

I'm also a part of the same community. Don't forget that. If some troll is impacting me, they might also be impacting others? In fact there were users who private messaged me venting about the same problem and knowing that there is no solution currently.. Am I doing this only for myself? Absolutely no. I could be helping a lot of people, now and in the future. My health is not important? So if a member is facing a problem their problem should be ignored? How can you call that a supportive community if individual problems are being ignored? Today I'm being impacted by this problem. Tomorrow it could be some other user. Of course there are other users who I am personally aware of who are affected by this. Won't take names. The only difference is that I decided to go public about it by opening a thread on it. Maybe they didn't want to go public because they foresaw the reaction I'm getting here. Frankly this is not a supportive community if a person is demonized or blamed for opening up about a problem. Have some consideration. Also this whole thread is a Testament to how a problem doesn't get solved here and no support is given to the person who is pro actively bringing up the problem.

A reaction to something only helps us understand that something is a problem. Don't demonize natural reactions

I have never acted like this. It has nothing to do with me. Reaction to a problem is natural. Admitting to a problem is also natural.. If everything is wrong about me, then why does a block option exist in the messenger? Why does an ignore option exist at all if there is no problem and only the person is attracting it? I'm looking for a constructive solution, like a technical feature. Your words dont apply to me. They are empty. I don't need any healing here. I'm looking for a constructive solution to a pesky problem

@dflores321 I don't buy that. Expressing a problem is not being a victim. In fact it takes grit to openly express a problem. Either you could dismiss me as a victim or you could take it as a constructive problem that needs a thorough constructive solution. The choice is yours. I did my job of coming forth with the problem.

Ok I have a question for all the people who talk about empowerment. Why does Leo ban trolls? Why can't he adopt the same strategy?simply ignore trolls right? What do you think will happen if he simply ignored trolls and didn't ban them? Wouldn't this place be full of trolls running riot all over the place completely trashing the place with posts meant to bully the heck out of him with baseless criticisms and false accusations? How will this place look like if it's completely waterlogged with trolls?

What do you say to the trolls And naysayers? Did you face harsh critical judgement like character trashing? What did you tell them directly in terms of words?

Tell me empowered in what sense? You mean allowing the troll to keep shitting on me? What is your practical idea of empowerment here? Let me hear too.

@mandyjw you are acting as though trolls are giving me an option to pick and choose from? Such an option comes at the cost of self esteem. Why should I let myself be publicly humiliated by some troll and on top also not be able to do anything about it? How exactly is that empowering?

If you are not aware, sometimes the reporting doesnt help because no action is taken. Not all the time though. If there is a serious situation, the reporting does help a lot.. Like a person who was racist to me, he did not receive any warning. He only got a warning when Emerald defended me and I had to Mention Leo four times for him to take action. I can't keep wasting my energy doing this, nor can the mods. That's why i said there should be a block option.

When I'm openly saying that I'm facing a real problem, you two guys are making me the creator of the problem? That is the worst thing you could do to a person asking for help.

This is almost like saying that if someone is racist to me then I must be attracting racists???? What an absurd argument? Take responsibility for what?? For someone who is being racist to me? I should take the responsibility of not attracting a racist by what, by changing my skin color, or raising my raising my vibration??? Don't get me angry. But this is some serious spiritual nonsense The gaslighting nonsense Saying "much love " doesn't make the gaslighting look loving.

@Shin I disagree with you fully and completely. I did absolutely nothing to attract them. Saying that is like gaslighting me The fact that trolls exist is already a problem. The problem that they can't be handled effectively is another problem. Putting the blame of the problem squarely on me is a nice deflection from the real issue Not a good or fair judgement on your end.

@WonderSeeker yes the public part definitely upsets me. I mean tell me who doesn't get bothered by public humiliation? The thing is this. If someone trolled me privately, like a personal message, there is a simple powerful solution. Just block the person. They simply cannot message you their crap even with the best effort. This side gets handled really well. Now the public side. This side cannot be handled well. For the simple reason being there is no block option. You can only ignore but not block. This person continues to write crap about you yet you are only blind to it since you cannot see. You can still click on "show post " and the post will be visible. That's a personal choice, whether you want to see or unsee a post. A person like Leo doesn't have to concern himself with this phenomenon , because even if he was being trashed, he will receive massive support and the troll will be thrown out merely by outrage. A person like me is just a small member of the forum, a small fish in the pond. A person like me won't get any support to fight the tide against me. Which means I will easily get out competed, in fact if the tide of trolls keeps rising, I'll be left with no option but to simply leave out of feeling of harassment. I mean isn't that what we generally refer to as "cyberbullying. " On top of everything if you tried to fight too hard and defended yourself a bit too much, people tag you as "playing victim " this makes defending the self even harder. If there was a way to block a person publicly ( just the way I do privately ) this wouldn't have been such a big issue because then the person won't be able to mention me. The problem is that ignore option still allows the person to mention me, of course at my displeasure. I feel like this forum has similar elements like major social media out there, and like with any social media, there's going to be haters and trolls in abundance, however social media ( example Twitter, Facebook ) does a good job of blocking the trolls publicly, a function that doesn't exist here. I think that this forum needs it as well. How long are you going to be complaining to mods for every troll, till you reach a point where you are tired of complaining? I wish individual users here didn't need to constantly complain to mods and had enough power themselves to block someone publicly if they didn't want to talk to that person. This function of giving users the power to block communication with unwanted pesky users should have existed and incorporated into this forum long ago at its inception. Would have been really helpful. And if someone argued that it will cause splitting of the forum with people constantly blocking each other, wouldn't that be helpful anyway, I mean look at the forum, there is already so much fighting and lack of harmony, introducing a block option might even put a lid on all the hate, discord and lessen some of the antagonism that it creates with people from different perspectives fighting with each other for egoic reasons. I mean wouldn't avoidance of someone picking fights with you help the cause of creating peace?

@Mason Riggle Yes. That was a helpful response. I appreciate that. I'm asking you, what do you suggest I do? Let's say that someone does the whole trash talking in the future. Should I simply ignore their hateful comment and move on and not respond? Should I have them on ignore? Should I fight their comment and be stressed out? What do you suggest I do?

@Mason Riggle yes I know. I always tell that to myself very frequently. But publicly it's very hard to control your reaction to someone who is constantly demonizing and denigrating you. You either stay silent and let them keep attacking or start a fight with them. Or tell them to leave you alone, which despite telling them millions of times, they still don't leave you alone.. They choose a different opportunity to attack you. It's like holding a vendetta, almost. I had a few users who repeatedly did that, trying to push me to leave the forum. Eventually I had to seek help with the moderators but even moderators get tired of complaints. Plus you don't want to deal with this whole fuss to begin with. Ignoring doesn't work because the person keeps doing it and encouraging others to do the same.. Ignoring only puts a screen on it, doesnt stop it

No mods will not help this situation. Because trash talking isn't exactly against forum guidelines. The trolls are careful in saying things indirectly without breaking forum guidelines openly. Yet they end up doing the damage they want to.. They want to provoke and trash someone's reputation and attack self esteem without making it look offensive, and also making it sound like they are only offering a critique, meanwhile the real objective is to continue attacking the person indirectly, continuing showing disdain and contempt without using offensive words /name calling.

Some examples I can give for trash talking is something like this "she should leave the forum. " "she is a horrible person. " "she deserves a slap in her face " Leaving a laugh emoji to another person who is saying something sarcastic like a sarcastic attack, in order to signal like "look how crazy she is " without actually saying it, but the implication is there. "she doesn't deserve to be here " "you're ugly " "you deserve this " "she is a narcissist " "your advice is useless " "I think you're playing victim " "you're the dumbest person here " "I have put her on ignore" but still continues to talk about me. This kind of trash talking that indirectly implies that I'm this horrible person who needs to be boycotted by everyone or inviting others to gang up on me. Notice that offensive name calling words are not used, because the user obviously knows that it will attract a warning. But they use indirect language to make it look like I'm some horrible person. Yet when I don't respond to their comments, they continue to do that and kind of imply that a lack of defense is a sign that their argument or accusations are true, it means they were right about it since I didn't defend myself. Stuff like that, where you feel like your character is being dragged through the hurt because someone is biased towards you and when you don't respond somehow they declare to everyone what they said is true. You can't really hold them responsible because they aren't using any name calling words. They are not being directly offensive yet trying to provoke and defame in indirect ways.

@ll Ontology ll haha, that was kinda unexpected. Lol. Good job though..

@Mason Riggle does this mean that they can continue doing what they are doing endlessly with no stop on their behaviors. Won't it feel like personal humiliation, where you don't respond to them because you don't want a fight, but they can endlessly keep attacking and trashing your character throughout the forum meanwhile you don't address it and stay silent. It's a stab to self esteem. The forum guidelines are more about against using offensive name calling. But a lot of things can be said to trash a person without the use of name calling. You can't really report such a person I mean if a user continues to act in provoking ways, it kinda turns into bullying because you stay silent and they keep trash talking. Or bad mouthing You know what I mean? Silence from your end doesn't stop them.