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@bejapuskas Im still attracted to cute looking guys (imagine killer eyes,sweet face). But I will not date them because I don't want Horror Show.

@bejapuskas yea I got what you mean. Ok I want to be a bit clear on this. See this is how it goes. There are alpha males and there are beta males. Both have their own pros and cons. An ideal man is somewhere in the middle. A woman's body and heart are two different things. They are like two different brains. A man's heart and body are not very different from each other. If he is attracted to a woman he usually falls in love with her. Both his body and heart agree with her or flow with her. Women are from Venus. Their body is one thing and their heart is another. When a woman starts dating, her body responds first, that is her biology responds first. Her biology and body are designed in such a way that a handsome strong leader-like man becomes instantly sexually attractive. Her body cannot resist him. In the beginning stages of her romantic lifespan, she tends to submit quickly to sexual desires with very little control. This aspect is fully taken advantage of and exploited thoroughly by PLAYER MEN. These player type of men or playboys are generally very Alpha and acutely aware of their desirability and power. They know that women like them, they get a lot of signals from a huge variety of women. Men by nature are a bit polygamous although religion and society tries to control this for the sake of stability. However when an Alpha man realizes that he is a beast in bed and that he can easily attract a woman by the way he looks and talks, he sets his plan into action and maximizes his potential to date as many women as possible even if this means that he has to be unethical to get what he wants. This means that he will cheat on his woman for another woman or break her heart after getting enough sex. He will usually turn into the dreaded "fuck boy" that all women are internally afraid of. Now a woman who is inexperienced on the dating circuit will easily fall for this man because she is not aware of what's lying ahead for her in the relationship. She will not only give her body but also her heart to him, not realizing that whatever she is doing is rooted in lust and sexual attraction. But she will think it is love Now the alpha guy will use every strategy in the Red Pill Hunting Book to keep her hooked to him through extensive manipulation. She will play along thinking this is her ultimate Prince One day she will see him in bed with another woman. That day reality will strike her like a lightning bolt and she will turn into a grown woman, her innocence is now gone. She will contemplate on what went wrong in the relationship and why she has ended up broken hearted despite being faithful and devoted to this Great Great Alpha man that she trusted so much with all her heart. She will realize that her mistake was how she was attracted to this Alpha abusive asshole in the first place. Her intuition will figure out the sad truth that her own body is not a good indicator for attracting men because all she ends with is Abusive Alpha Assholes and Players and Fuckboys. So she undergoes a metamorphosis of her femininity. Her new femininity is hyper aware and empowered. Now she doesn't want to be heart broken anymore. So she decides that the next time she will fall in love, she will use her heart and brain to judge a man, rather than her body. This is high conscious dating because now she is looking for a man who embodies true love and has proper sexual ethics, who won't cheat on her or betray her trust.. The qualities that she is looking for are found in a beta male and she decides this is her final choice. The long list of abusive Alpha Assholes and players in her life have finally come to an end and she is finally ready to move on from such men. Even though she still considers an alpha male attractive, they no longer catch her interest because subconsciously she has rejected them on the basis of her past experiences. Alpha men are aware of this. They don't use their hunting and fishing techniques on an experienced woman who had a few relationships or boyfriends because they will fail to attract her since she is well aware of their game. The alpha man will generally look out for women who are newbies in the dating market and have zero experience in dating, because such women are easy to target, manipulate and use for their goals. This is how dating works. That's why Red pill and incels stuff is very bad because it encourages toxic dating patterns Women who are naive fall into this trap but eventually learn and outgrow this crappy fishing game and make better decisions for a future mate. Moral of the story is that alpha males and players end up alone in the end as they grow older because they can attract a woman, especially an inexperienced woman but end up losing all the women they attracted because of their asshole behavior.. Beta males end up having long term partners for life because they know how to keep a woman. a woman who finds value in a beta male eventually settles with him. And they create a family.

@bejapuskas but what sort of explanation? Examples?

Yes I can open the cupboard. Key number 31 was used

I'm slowly plotting my journey to freedom. This will be the last part of my life . This is what I always wanted There is no place in this world for peace loving people This world is made of Authoritarians, suckers, pedophiles, profiteers, psychopaths, manipulators, evil geniuses, wealth and ego worshippers, power hoggers, capitalists, controllers, evil, just evil.

See if you can open that cupboard

All of my journals is what I like to write The kind of material I like to write about in seen in all of my journals.

Yes I still believe that women are attracted to Alpha because evolutionary-wise it makes sense why. Yet this never means that beta cannot be sexually attractive. And a nice guy is not always a beta, that's another stereotype. Yes alpha is attractive but beta can be attractive in their own ways, lot of people overlook beta attraction strategies. In reality, a lot of women first fall for an Alpha, usually turns out to be a bad experience after which they settle for a beta and have kids with him. Ironically beta wins in the end. Alpha loses because of behaviour problems.

I don't want to be optimistic but I don't want to be pessimistic either. So I would choose the middle option of being slightly pessimistic. Promotion of brotherhood is fine but it's something that looks good on paper yet doesn't manifest in reality. It's one truth to state an absolute truth. It's another truth to be more aligned with reality. This is a form of higher truth or relative truth. Of course absolute truth always sounds beautiful but can often lead to misleading ways of approaching things because all of the absoluteness gets lost in relativity. Just like true meaning is lost in translation.

@Karmadhi oh.

Afghanistan is a great country.

Yea this is another point I wanted to address. There's a stereotype circulating here where people automatically assume that a nice guy is not sexually attractive or only an asshole can be sexually attractive, a very extremist form of thinking. There are so many grey zones where people can be both.

@Karmadhi I understand whatever you are saying, I used to think that way too but there is a stage where a woman transcends that, age doesn't have much to do with it, it's more about experience. When a woman has a couple of bad experiences, she is more conscious about what she wants, and it's called conscious dating, not just attraction. Men and women who have a sizable amount of experience finally lean towards conscious dating choices especially if they are more consciousness and spirituality inclined. Different people have different needs. No? But generalizing dating as a rabbit wolf setup in my opinion is an error in judgement because not everyone's love story is a wolf rabbit thing. Just because a majority is stage Orange, one shouldn't make that the anthem. There are others as well. A versatile person is open to all sorts of ideas, they aren't stubborn with only one. I mean the portrayal is a bit unfair, looks like there's a lot of insecurity going on. To be fair, most women on this website are very conscious and would absolutely not want this rabbit wolf dating and I'm wondering if it translates into irl as well. Why should I think that most women are unconscious? That doesn't make sense. The more women I meet the more I feel like they're oriented to Spirituality and consciousness and they exhibit quite high conscious behaviour and would want a high conscious guy to match their needs and these are young women so this stuff is mind boggling. This doesn't represent the niche I interact with. Am I right about the insecurity point?

@RendHeaven yea exactly that's what I meant. Intimacy, holism, those words.

My 4 hour contemplation has yielded 3 approaches. The very optimistic approach based on brotherhood. Creating a better planet. Survive through the mess. And have a lot of kids. This is very idealistic. The middle ground pessimistic approach - you want to think that the world is brutal yet you don't want to fully give up on it . You do have an escapist mentality where you want freedom from the world yet you support those who are on a similar path as you. You're on a rescue mission but you are not doing it to create a better future, you're simply doing it to rescue someone in the present moment. An example would be - you're helping poor people by establishing a foundation yet you're not giving a guarantee or you're not claiming to eradicate poverty completely in the future, you're not being too optimistic about the future and you believe will always exist, yet you're doing your best to help people see the light and find freedom from their suffering. You're basically giving them a push up as you strive yourself to be free from your problems..in short you're not trying to change the world, simply helping a fellow being to see the road to freedom. Offering some help along the way Extreme pessimism. The world is very bad. No point in doing anything good. Turn a blind eye. Not wanting kids.

@RendHeaven you know, after my most recent romantic experience, and being truly grateful for it, now whenever I read Leo's words about the rabbit and the wolf, it screams loudly in my mind as "Stage Orange." It just doesn't click anymore. I don't relate to it anymore. It feels animalstic and so devoid of love and affection and graciousness. It feels very lacking in sentiment and very savvy and sort of achievement oriented but I don't see love in that anymore. I guess there's a phase in one's romantic labyrinth where one transcends the stage of attraction and moves towards more wholesome expressions of love, kind of an outgrowing the mad attraction phase. I think this is a phase (which I guess comes much later and after having been through multiple romantic experiences, sort of a growth, the kind that you experience if you had multiple psychedelic trips, so as you go deeper, you learn some shit that is very defying and mind blowing or simply unbelievable yet this realisation comes like a ton of bricks) where one is searching for more of a "love" based love rather than an "attraction" based love. I'm sort of in that phase and I have decided to stick to it because it feels much more amazing than all this stage Orange attraction game bullshit. This stage Orange attraction thing is like a huge wave, whereas the love based romance thing is like a Tsunami. There's simply no comparison. But you only realize this when you are in it, not from the outside in.. I can tell this much that you gotta experience it to really feel the depth of whatever I'm saying. When you feel it, it's a mind blowing experience. Kinda changed me forever and I'll never look back. Leo's advice fades in comparison and looks very dull now.. You have to sort of outgrow Leo's advice to know what I really mean and when that happens, you come back to read what Leo wrote, you would be astounded by its cheapness, your reaction to it would be on another level because you simply won't relate to it anymore. That's the point of transcendence of all this stage Orange crap Yet I'll have to unfortunately admit that the vast majority of the world is still immersed in stage Orange attraction patterns just the way I once was.

I'm not intending to throw away basic attraction. But to make it sound like the whole game of love is only attraction is kinda silly in my opinion. Let's say a guy is very attractive but if he doesn't qualify for the stuff I stated like "wonderful friend," "caring protective guide," "leader and companion," "falling in love," "bravery and graciousness," and "marriage" then I'm instantly going to reject him because he is just another asshole and it's like loving a book only for its cover, you know what I mean. The thing that I discovered in my journey of romantic love, because we're always evolving through our experiences and our thoughts change relative to our experience, and I have sort of transcended "the attractive guy" experience and what I realized recently is that even an unattractive beta male is still attractive in my eyes (I literally developed attraction for that kind of a guy ) because of how protective and caring he was. And for the first time it changed something in me and I felt like such men deserve a chance and such men are just awesome..and when the brain perceives it as awesome, it automatically generates attraction. I have much more appreciation for those kind of men now and my attraction pattern is slowly shifting. It's like I'm discovering a new side in my femininity with each romantic experience. My new experience has taught me that even unattractive guys can eventually be attractive in my eyes if they become worthy of my respect and appreciation. Having dealt with players who were very attractive but never truly caring, I think my brain has shifted the gears of attraction and began tasting waters in another direction so to speak. It has definitely impacted my sexuality and femininity in such a big way that my brain is positively responding now when it wouldn't have in the past The brain is simply an amazing organ. It can create anything.

To get my house in order spiritually.

A cruel realisation today. That humanity cannot stay together. It's a pipe dream. In reality we need love but that's not possible. We won't get it We can only escape the cruelty of life If we are good, that's already a great thing to do This is a very pessimistic view By this view, one shouldn't have kids because the question arises, what's the point if humanity is doomed ?

@Raphael are you being inauthentic? Like being something in public but different in private? Maybe you're seeking validation? Just a guess. If the above statements are true, then invest your time in shadow work and you'll get rid of the fakery. I had a problem with pretentiousness a few years ago where I wouldn't open up about my life fully and make my life look better in public out of fear of judgement. I got rid of this behaviour through shadow work. These days I'm more authentic and not fearful of being vulnerable about my personal issues. Hope this helps.

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Why do you always make men and women situation like rabbit and wolf thing ? Can't a man be a wonderful friend to a woman, a caring protective guide, a leader and companion and she falls in love with his bravery and graciousness and decides to marry him. Why does it have to be like hunting? The word hunting makes the relationship between a man and a woman so cheap, low on the SD spiral and so devoid of true love and lacking in integrity and consciousness. Why can't you look at love as something sacred between a loving man and a caring woman ?

I'll pray to God for good luck and freedom.

Keep the stuff in all the cupboards and lock them

I'm sweating and I'm too exhausted. My heart rate is very high at the moment. The fear that she will come beat me and disable me is very haunting.