Preety_India

Another self esteem lesson would be I'm in the process of cutting off. Nope. I'm cutting off.

Good morning Suburbians Today is a new day in my life. I want to start it on a positive note.

I love this indian song. It has so much of the divine emotion.

It has to be beautiful

This is what I needed.

Umm, then what works ?

It was never about saving the world..it was all about saving people one person at a time. my-mind-goes-blank

Aren't lists even made for men ?

Your wisdom is this - fuck a woman. Then drive off in a car..

Whatever you do, you do it for God

This is a good list.

I'm glad that you're able to realize and come to terms with the toxicity in your house. Being this self aware is really great. You can carve out a path towards financial independence. Work hard towards that goal everyday.

@eaaaeaeae lol. Revenge 101.

Fair enough. You're providing all these justifications for why (some) men act in such ways However the fact remains that they're dangerous to women and when women come across men with such tendencies, women should walk away.

I don't know about this. I'm not sure about your definition of normies.. Hehe. I'm actually advocating for the opposite. I want men to not judge women who approach them. So women can approach more . You're taking this the wrong way. I don't mean I'm biologically wired to see the man who accepts me as a loser. What I meant is statistically it's the low value males who easily accept women.. especially if they are submissive or horny. What in general society considers as "high value," those type of men are totally repulsed by the idea of women approaching. What I mean is that men change the way they think, women will be more open to approaching, the humbler women. However men don't give them a chance. Hehe you're talking about egoic women whereas I'm talking about egoic men, come to my country and see how egoic men behave, they see it against their pride to be with a woman who makes the first move I like approaching. But every time I do it,I get shamed or ridiculed. So what men say and what men want are two different things. They act like they would be too glad to see a woman approaching, yet the reality is that they don't see such women as "admirable." They want to simply pump and dump them because they consider them "whores. " Lmao. Why are you guilting men? If they are thirsty let them be In 21st century, thirsty men are reducing in numbers. Endangered species. You would need more thirsty men and less incels. Haha. It's the fault of biased perception and cognitive dissonance in men who think a woman can never have good intentions. Kinda ingrained in patriarchy. No idea about that. All I know that men say something and want something else

Yes. You have to ask why women want to protect their ego ? It's because society devalues women who approach. Women look down on other women , more so in this feminist era, women are like,"girl, don't you have self esteem, let the guy do it ." However don't assume that men don't add to this thinking. Men pick this from women and think they are probably with a low value woman if she made the first move. How about men encouraging this trend by accepting women who approach them? Maybe that will help to reverse the trend. Don't carry subconscious guilt against women who approach you.

That's not true. Testosterone gives men raw power,but it's not directly associated with sexuality. Young men are more violent than older men because of high testosterone but when testosterone goes to the head, it creates the pride syndrome, much more prevalent in younger guys who are like 18 years old. Older men are much more sexual.. if I was groped sexually, it was mostly older men. Younger men can be picky and arrogant. Older men are more perverted and hyper sexual (also more maternal) yet this sexual drive is simply a function of old age and the feeling of insecurity of FOMO, they feel they'll miss out on sex so they start scrounging every opportunity they get, yet younger males live in the illusion that they have too many options and this false pride combined with the Aggression from testosterone causes them to reject women, they could even be averse to female sexiness because they think they are being seduced.

@Harlen Kelly ok tell me this much, if whatever you say is true, then why do women constantly advise each other, "don't make the first move" or something along the lines like"oh he rejected you because you made the first move." Why this? Why aren't women encouraged to make the first move ? What are they gonna lose?

I have observed this in slightly older men. With younger men, let's say someone who is 24, they kinda don't look at it this way, they can be annoying and very insecure and too much pride/ego. Even if they have many options, if they like one woman, they cut out all other women, simply out of ego. Older men are more available, tend to be hornier and don't reject too much, act matured and don't act arrogant around an approaching female.

So tell me how can you have an equal world where what you say becomes relevant to everyone ? The answer is simple. There's no sureshot way of having anything in this world that you could call a holy grail and dating is the last area of life in that regard ever, dating is far too complex with female and male agenda mashed into it, combined with very complex perspectives on both male and female side. It's like a Rubic's cube you're trying to solve forever, you never get to a perfect "one size fits all" solution when it comes to dating. Whether men or women approach, both are bad in my opinion because both lead to power struggles that are responsible for much of the misery that each gender suffers. I wish there was an egalitarian approach to this where both men and women approach equally and fairly without any subconscious judgement or shaming attached to any of it, with men there's a subconscious guilt attached if they can't get laid, with women there's a whore complex attached if she is trying to be free with her sexuality or wanting a man without being considered desperate. A truly open society is one where no shaming exists and an understanding that both men and women need each other equally and should be offered equal chance without having to go to extreme lengths to impress each other.

In a way you're right. My point however wasn't whether they are good or bad, just that men who reject women also exist. Men reject women but don't see themselves doing it.

I definitely had you in mind when I made this post. Good grief if you got the hint lol.

Not true. Only true if the guy is really horny. Not otherwise. You are talking about men with zero options and non ego men. Men with ego and pride reject a lot of women because they want the chase. They look down on women who approach, also consider her as abnormal. You want a woman to approach but at the same time when a woman actually does it, you get cold feet. Men don't encourage this behaviour in women.

Nope. It's not victim mentality. It's called pointing out behaviors that is not healthy. And in this case I'm pointing out "egoic behaviours " in men. You know what, to say that only women reject is extremely unfair. Even men reject. Deal with the truth