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@johnlocke18 things of the supernatural nature cannot really be debated.. Because it's a matter of subjective experience. You either believe it or you don't. Your views can also flip over time.. There is nothing universal or right or wrong about it because of its subjective nature. It's similar to debating the existence of God.

Yours is closed mindedness masquerading as healthy skepticism backed by the false belief that psychedelics brings all awakening. Your mind is looking at everything in a very closed minded distorted way yet you cannot see the truth in what others are saying to you and you project that they must be blindly believing.

Again false equivalency. It's a part of their growth not your growth. Who tells you to follow something that doesn't resonate with you. Nobody hit you. Only you allow yourself to be hit. You should believe in what you think is true. Let others believe in their truth. You see this is the definition of open mindedness.

Leo has never made such claims. This is pure bogus. Plus telepathy does exist. There's actual evidence if you see psychical research records.

You don't get the point. Some things are contradictory. It's a part of growth. You're simply nit picking. And someone hits back at you for your pointless nit-picking is not gaslighting, it's called standing one's ground against ignorance.

@johnlocke18 Everyone's spiritual path is different. You missed out on the biggest lessons of psychedelics which is a shame. And that lesson is empathy. You and Adeptus and the likes of you are trying to judge someone's spiritual path. But psychedelics teaches you to be non judgemental. Asking someone to show empathy for another person's spiritual path is not called gaslighting. You need to show empathy for another person's journey even if that journey doesn't resonate with you. Spiritual paths are different for different folks. Have understanding, empathy and respect for another's path. People don't have to revolve around your path. There are many roads that lead to the same truth. Your road is not the only one. Wanting someone to agree with your path and changing their to yours is simply an example of an egoic mind that wants things their way and can never allow another way to exist And when someone does something they don't like or agree to, all hell breaks loose and they go around to fix or change that person when it's not supposed to be their prerogative.

@johnlocke18 a man is walking on his own path of growth and transformation. And growth includes change. Can you let him walk.. Can Leo make mistakes? Well, yes. Is Leo God? Well, absolu-freakingly yes. But Leo.... Is you.

To be frank, Leo tells and guides people to try psychedelics for learning. However you kinda claimed you know so and so because of years of psychedelics. That's called wearing a badge. So should I believe you simply because you did psychedelics?

And using the garb of criticism to harass someone is bullying 101. Which Adeptus is doing.

Just because someone has done years of psychedelics doesn't automatically mean they are awakened or enlightened or spiritually grown. Some people have started wearing "I have done psychedelics" as some sort of a badge. It's another form of spiritual dick measuring contest. One such example is that Adeptus dude.

I think you have matured a lot which is quite visible in your posts. Time for you to be proud of yourself and your growth.

I agree.

@Inliytened1 let me explain this another way. Please look at the title of the thread. If someone has a problem with Leo's teachings, the title should have been something like - "I disagree with what Leo said here." For example I made a fair critique of Leo's dating views. But my title was “Leo's views on dating. " However many of these titles and threads are along the lines of....." Leo, you're denying", "Leo you're wrong", "Leo don't do this", "Leo don't do that." It's more like trying to control Leo and how he should think in their eyes rather than a simple disagreement with his opinions. Wanting someone to change to suit one's own paradigm is not the same as disagreeing with their views.

Well the decision is up to you of course. But I guess we should empathize with Leo as well.. Although we say this is not about Leo, these threads directly talk about Leo rather than his teachings. For example using words Like "messiah" and "cult of personality" are more of a personal attack rather than discussing any of his teachings frankly.

You're looking at this from a gender perspective. I would have said the same thing even if I were a guy I kinda don't get some people who come here. Like why do they come here or watch Leo's videos if they have such vitriol for his work. And why is supporting him and his hard work looked at in disparaging ways like "go suck his dick." I would have supported Leo even if he were a woman. It simply doesn't matter. If I were doing Leo's kind of work I would want support too. Supporting someone openly and generously is not the same as blind worshipping like a cult. It's simply defending a person and their work.. If there is attack, there should be defense as well.

@Inliytened1 if you don't mind, I think it's best to lock the thread at this point. I see it going nowhere but simply a Leo bashing fest. Leo must be so tired of this.

I think it's the most appropriate time for @Leo Gura to execute - “leave the forum if you don't understand my teachings. " I mean at a certain point this frivolity of trying to trigger him in baseless ways in the name of fair critique or whatever nonsense really needs to stop.

Do you understand the difference between constant provocation and actual fair criticism. Did you hear what Leo said? Come to debate Leo when you reach his level of understanding or else you're simply wasting his time. He himself is not ready for such discourse because he is preaching to ignorant people. Criticism cannot come from an ignorant place, only egoic chimpery can.

Without the feminine side, the relationship becomes oppressive and the man becomes the oppressor wanting nothing but sex and wanting the woman to be codependent in exchange for the sex.

Constant attacks on Leo are detrimental to the integrity of the forum and people have to jump in to defend Leo which is going to waste Leo's precious time and in turn we as forum members pay the price when Leo can't focus. We should stop wasting our time on threads and users who engage in provoking and harassing Leo. Let the guy work in peace please.

Leo does his best to communicate his teachings. If you are focused on his looks and consider his obvious charm to be a deterrent then maybe it's not so much of his problem, it's your own projection coming from an egoic place inside you. Actually and frankly, Leo having a charming personality is a bonus, helps understand the teaching better, I mean easy on eyes. He makes things interesting. Frankly Leo should not bother to respond to such threads and trolls who come in here attacking his work because they don't understand him well enough. It's a waste of time explaining and debating people who won't let go of their egoic self righteousness. @Leo Gura should move on and focus on himself.. These people are trapping him and wasting his time

One of the hard spots I'm facing is this forum I don't feel supported here still. There's a gnawing sensation in me that some people just hate me for absolutely bogus reasons and out of their own false perceptions of me and projections. I can't help that. Yes I'm a flawed person. But who isn't flawed? Those who truly care about me without ulterior motive will see past my flaws and detect my true nature. I'll have nothing to prove and nothing to defend. When you come like a God to me, I bow in front of you. But if you come to me to control or preach me, sorry but I won't listen to one word you say. I don't need it. Your judgement is not my definition or my truth. So Yea this forum is also a hard spot and I often run into people who tell me things that doesn't accurately describe what I think or how I feel inside, they change it to suit their narrative and tell me something that is completely alien to what I'm thinking. Just because I'm not adept (can't even use this word) at articulating my thoughts doesn't give you the right to misrepresent my mind, my thoughts, my inner sanctum. I call this forum frustration. I'll label it as such. #forumfrustration. This too is one of the hard sports, this forum frustration thing that I'm trying to resolve or find a proper way to handle/deal with it.

Stop bringing down a guy who is working so hard and helping millions of people through his website and work. I challenge that you cannot do even 2% of what Leo Gura has achieved. Nobody is perfect and stop basking in his glory and using him for your witchhunt. Leo absolutely doesn't deserve this. Fair criticism is always fine. But misquoting him, contorting and twisting him and his words to serve your own agenda is nothing but slander and attack. Leo is not a cult of personality. He is just a guy who can gain massive traffic because his presentation style is extremely passionate, something that you tubers like you completely lack. Are you this jealous of his success?? Maybe you can leave Leo alone and let him do his work. Find yourself new stuff to make videos on and be original.

This profile picture is perfect I finally found a profile picture that is perfect for me. It doesn't feel like it's attacking me.. It feels safe because it looks peacefully at me. The picture is peaceful so I don't feel triggered by it. The last picture felt like it was staring at me and I wasn't comfortable with journaling with that picture looking at me. This picture feels happy, peaceful and non invasive, it is healing rather than interfering. It also shows aspects of myself that are truly myself.. My inner spirit is a kindred spirit full of love, peace, hope, happiness and kindness and there is no place for jealousy or hate within my inner self. When I die I will die with a clean pure heart because there's nothing bad there. However the opportunity to be peaceful was never given to me because of a dominating tyrant mother who ruled my childhood and scarred me psychologically. This trauma dominated my life for quite a long time. In some ways a lot of my profile pictures mirrored this trauma in the form of anger, sullenness, desperation, vehement, anguish or excitement. But this picture might probably be my permanent profile picture because it doesn't represent trauma aspects of my personality but healing aspects of my personality The last profile picture felt like it showed a lot of my inner anger and pointedness. Starkness. This one I feel like it represented the anger aspect of me, like I'm asking directly or pointedly. The confrontational aspect of my personality where I relentlessly go after someone (mostly a boyfriend) if I feel like they wronged me in some way. I can be pretty confrontational and this can be very Intimidating to people yet there is a part of me which is extremely soft and muted and nurturing, my true self that is not enveloped by trauma. The trauma part is definitely the angry part. I might use that profile picture again in the future. Every profile picture for me represents a certain mood, vibe, facet of my personality or life.

I never felt happy with any profile picture Every time I uploaded a profile picture within 2 hours I started hating it, feeling extremely repulsed. Because when I upload a profile picture, in the beginning I feel the emotion of the picture is representing me, I feel like the picture is talking to me. Then within minutes and hours I feel a sense of torture and resentment building against the same profile picture. I feel like it's not representing my emotion correctly or it's not generating peace or it is staring at me. I get anxious because I tend to feel watched, attacked, and repulsed by the same picture. I feel like the picture is separate from who I am and what I represent. Then I start hunting for another picture that will represent my inner emotion properly. When I look at any face picture I see an emotion in it. The emotion generally matches with my emotion in the given moment. If it feels good I upload it. If it doesn't resonate anymore with my current emotion or if I feel like the picture is attacking my vibe, I remove it. I'm an HSP-highly sensitive person. These things don't matter to people but they matter to me. #labelyourhardspots