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I don't think that it is caused by meditation per se. I just started to notice it and made connection with various other phenomena. Meditation simply opened space for me to explore it and notice new things. It is a temporary silence in which you can notice things. Chakras are a model between domains. It is a bridge between the body and the mind, so that you can build an image of bodymind. It is not that chakras cause thinking, or thinking causes chakras. They coexist at the same time. Think of it as this: language is thinking from the point of mind. Chakra is thinking from the point of view body. Model is a pointer so that you can link and correlate the two. They are the same thing described from two perspectives. It is like saying that a person is a set of cells. That is a point of view of biology. From the point of view of sociology, a person is a cell that builds society. Knowing both perspectives lets you influence both levels, but it is not that one level is in control of the other. Society is made of people, and people are made by society (culture).

@Dogsbestfriend I can definitely relate to what you are saying. I always used to notice it at the third eye just before going to sleep and have vivid, sometimes even lucid dreams. Ever since it sits on the crown, I practically have no dreams - or at least not the imaginative ones. It sometimes feels like I've been thinking the whole night in an alert state, but I still 'wake up' well-rested. Today I linked the lower points with emotions. Physical fear focuses somewhere below lungs for me. I'll have to notice where is anger located the next time I get the chance. Ever since the spaciousness rests at the crown, I rarely get angry. Ever since I was a child, I could focus something at my hands. I used to play that it is some kind of superpower, but I never found any use for it. I can still do it and there is some quality similar to the spaciousness to it. When I focus on it, it feels somewhat colder than the crown, but the coldness is irrespective of the temperature that I touch. Very strange. How do you let the energy out of the crown with your hands?

What are the effects of imbalance? What is the importance of being able to move the energy through the spine?

That's what I'm suspecting. I can move and 'split' this spaciousness over the top of my head to the third eye and down to throat. I sometimes were able to go down past the throat, but it's difficult. It's like there is so much of it at the top, that it would take me ages. I see it now as a means to connect the mental and the bodily domain into one dimension. The bodymind. Let's see where it'll take me.

@MarkusSweden I will reply to your post tomorrow. It's getting late, gotta get some sleep .

First time I noticed it was when I started to meditate. I had always used (?) this spaciousness as I was trying to go to sleep and it was strange that it manifested itself during meditation. I thought that I was sleepy hahaha. It was only the above the eyes sensation, though. Never the top of the head. After some observation, it started to manifest in the waking hours, spontaneously. It became intertwined with meditation somehow and this is how I began to meditate effortlessly. It's 'on' all the time these days. I don't pay too much attention to it anymore. Just curious. I thought that I was squint my eyes during sleeping, hahaha. So funny. It's an eclipse in inverse colors to match the forum layout. A beautiful, natural manifestation of nonduality. An added bonus is that tsuki is moon in Japanese.

For me, cultivation is not a word that I would use. It is anticipation for growth to manifest itself. But I see your point. You cannot make yourself grow with thought, as I understood it.

Because I recognize that what was called thought is a part of me that is equal to other parts that are in balance. None is more important than other. Thought stays in motion, but to say that thought guides my action is like saying that a car that drives by guides my action. It doesn't make sense. If there is anything that drives me, it is something from beyond thought. It is something that I am yet to explore to arrive at stillness. I feel like a newborn that starts to speak. The drive to explore is insatiable. I can see thought as a loop that reinforces its own movement, interacting with things that I previously saw as residing in different categories. Thought is like a ruler that you can measure things with at different scales. It has no substance of its own. It is of no interest for me and I let it do its own thing. By treating various, disjoint, categories of existence as equivalent, and being open for thought to manifest a pattern with a model with sufficient ambiguity.

It does not imply time. It is not movement of fear. Thought is mechanical in nature and it flows by itself. I had a period of being driven by thought, but now I am separate from it. I let it go its own way. For now, it is occupied with growth. It reorganizes itself. It feels as if the world shifts and warps around me. Thought and insight go hand in hand, mechanically. Thought acquired a new dimension, not predicated on fear. It has to run its course to become still once more. I won't be getting in its way. Bear in mind that we may be talking about two different things, friend. I may have not yet reached you, or you may have not yet reached me. There is no way to tell.

As generosity of interpretation I mean - extend your definitions of negative traits in such a way that they feel justified. Not, as justification in a sense of being weak and explaining yourself to authority, but genuinely justified. In what cases anger is justified? In what cases gossip is justified? Gossip is annoying in a sense that it tries to build trust on the expense of another person. Perceptive people understand that a person that engages in gossip will also gossip about the person they talk with. That is a method of building trust by undermining it. Ambiguity about gossip comes from the fact that you never know whether the person actually tells the truth or just makes shit up to sound knowledgeable about others. There is no way to tell lies from truth about other people, even if everybody talks the same stupid shit. Everybody could be repeating lies, for that matter. If this is not a reliable way to spread information then why do you care? Well, you care because of your reputation. You are trying to look good so that your work is appreciated by the higher-ups. After all, your career may crash if somebody said something stupid about you to your boss. But is this really the case? He is your boss, after all. He's been through this himself and is probably a veteran of gossip, so why would you think that he can't see what you see about gossip? Is it perhaps that you think that your boss is stupid yourself? Well then - perhaps people that talk shit about your boss behind his back think the same way you do? Perhaps they really think and mean what they say? Not in a malicious way, but are genuinely saying what bothers them about other people? That they are looking for connection with others because of fear of other people? That they are trying to gain your trust to open up, but you're actually being close-minded and judgmental? That all people are really pissed off by other people's gossip and cannot see that they engage in it? Because what are you doing right now? Talking shit about your workplace out of genuine concern for your well-being. Looking for connection with others! Gossip is not a strategy. You make other people gossip by judging them for what they say. This judgement then prevents you from genuinely listening to other people. Because what they say about others is an expression of their existence. Their understanding of others, however annoying it is, is them. You are the one that makes people into liars by judging their words. There is no way to tell truth from lies in a practical situation. All language is deeply ambiguous. TL;DR: the effect of making a model ambiguous is to produce disinterest. So that it does not trigger you. There is only one principle: benevolence that is not assumed, but seen. If you're asking about my teachers, I had none. I used to listen to Allan Watts a lot, but not anymore. These are observations from my everyday experience.

@MarkusSweden Perception of your surroundings is dependent on the degree in which you embody enlightenment/growth. Your model of growth that you habitually use to judge others is too constrained. You need to make it more ambiguous to be more generous with your interpretations of others' behavior.

@7thLetter Think of the mind as a pattern-matching device. As you experience things in your life, you spot things that recur in relation to your current knowledge. The problem with the mind is that it matches incomplete patterns. It does not yet see the limitations of patterns it tries to capture, and applies them to observable phenomena. An incomplete pattern that is being followed is mistaken for something that ought to happen. A likely prediction. When it comes to childhood trauma, the mind captures patterns of human behavior that it tries to understand. If you do not work through your childhood trauma and go about your life, you will match incomplete, imperfect patterns that result in a very miserable life. Just imagine if everything you did was in relation to fear of being hurt (physically or emotionally). You need to explore various routes through emotional kaleidoscope to get rid of patterns that always end up in someone being hurt. You need to make your patterns ambiguous enough to be free to choose different approaches. You will never get rid of all patterns unless you become enlightened, but as you experience more and more circumstances, the mind will give you openings in which you will be able to see things clearly. This is why you need to keep being open-minded about things and stop judging others for what they do. Judgement is the result of pattern-matching and it occurs in various dimensions of reality (emotional, kinesthetic, conceptual, etc).

@The Don Orange has its limitations because it sees no alternative approaches to solving problems that it perceives. We came out of the stone age not by disowning stones, but by seeing them as something that is basically the same as other things. We still use stones when we see them as appropriate. For building roads, for example. Just imagine a society in which science is as common and uninteresting as stones in modern times. A society in which science is so incorporated into the fabric of existence that you don't even think scientifically anymore. Science as raw material in which you build tools to solve problems. This is what we can achieve when we transcend orange.

@Bobby I thought about it as well. From the point of view of tier two spiral, Yellow is like Beige with respect to the dimension that is being opened. Yellow is just an animal that merely survives without even realizing that it exists. Imagining that just boggles my mind. It is a shame that Leo won't be releasing videos on Beige and Purple, as they may be informative for people in tier two stages.

@White Not going to argue with you. Your sources had been very helpful to me and I wish you best luck in your growth. Keep rockin, man!

Either you don't believe that we're tier two, or you don't believe that my proposition had worked for me. In both cases you're not using the advice because of your current understanding of us. In short: you don't listen because you don't want to.

@White Yeah, I'm sure all people will defend their definitions fiercely. Definitions are not the point of theory though. Integration is. If you do not see that, then perhaps Joseph is right about your color. Existentialist philosophy helps to transcend Green. You could take a look into that to evolve.

Or did you finally started to listen what I'm saying? Smartness and listening are two sides of the same coin. Oh, and thanks. I appreciate it.

@White What @Joseph Maynor says is to explain it with your own words, without referencing the text. See the commonalities between the theory and your understanding. Produce your own spiral dynamics. This is how you learn what existence is. It is beyond the mind. Trust your connection to it. Use it.

Knowledge is constituted in obviousness. Whatever is the content of your revelation that you understood at some point, the result of this understanding is obviousness. How could you ever thought otherwise, right? It is obvious that I'm writing a post. It is obvious that I understand what obvious means, right? It is obvious that his thing that taps the keyboard is my hand. How could it possibly not be my hand? Things are because they are self-evident, and still - you are the one that understands them. This is why you are not out there behind your eyes, but in here as you look at this post. You obviously exist. You know everything, because you are everything.

Humans are not animals. You connote animal with cruelty. Humans are not cruel. Humans are neither cruel, nor compassionate. Humans aren't even neutral. Cruelty is a judgement. Judgement is an expression of morality. You say that humans are cruel because they violate your morality. In order to uphold law, police has to be brutal sometimes. Law is a morality that lets itself be broken. Morality is not a control scheme that prevents things. It's a mask. It covers things up so that you do not notice them. To say that all humans are animals is to judge your morality. It is morality using its expression (judgement) against itself. You may be getting out of blue, friend. ----- EDIT: That's a lot of projections on my part. Sorry.

We suffer because we resist. Do not try to not resist though. Trying to not resist is to resist resisting itself. It won't get you anywhere. You can't help resisting, so you can't help suffering. Because you can't help it. To stop trying to succeed is to resist the urge to succeed. This is why you're suffering and ask these questions. Because you resist resisting. Resisting resistance is to suffer because of mere possibility of suffering. Everything is possible and these questions will get you nowhere. Just suffer. Weep and scream if you must. Haven't you said that you will die? Find solace in your death. Or better still, find solace in death of the idea of resisting resistance. In few weeks, or years, you will forget it. All memories fade. We usually think that it's sad this way. It is a blessing at certain points in our lives. We can forget our stupidity. Just weep. It's okay. Let go.

@Joseph Maynor In other words, Turquoise sees the network within himself and harmonizing the network is harmonizing the self. There is no clash between the society and the self, unlike for example in green. The green's standard of harmonization requires an equilibrium between the society and an individual. For turquoise, it is not a matter of equilibrium of opposing forces, but a synergy. It is a positive feedback loop.

True. That is the difference between tier one and two. In case of Turquoise however, intuition and ideology mix forming something else. Calling this something by a different name is not particularly useful, so I still call it an ideology. Can you see how all even stages are similar with respect to ideology? Tier two ideology is a completely different from tier one. It is a necessarily benevolent ideology. Benevolence is not because of the ideology, but it is it's cause and effect at the same time. Can you see what I mean?