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This is real stuff Leo I promise you.

Love you Leo but oral DMT and other psychedelics are not the same as drinking a shamanic ayahuasca brew. You haven’t done it, you simply don't know and haven’t been opened to this world. It’s very clear to me this is out of your scope of understanding (with all due respect).

Dude. You don’t know me or what I’ve been through. It’s very, very clear you have limited understanding of VERY REAL spiritual truths, that have been proven, time and again. You think the Bible is just the most famous holy book for no reason? Come on. This is sacred, ancient, holy knowledge for a reason. This is not some cheese and crackers debate in fact you’ve embarrassed yourself here(with all due respect).

But Leo! No but seriously Leo one thing you don’t understand (with all due respect) is what ayahuasca is and the energies that it allows you to see. Can you try to be open to that. And then with this knowledge I began to see what’s really happening here. Good and evil is real Leo. Spiritual warfare is real. And Jesus is the most high, beating all other dark spirits. It’s so real dude you cannot make this up.

I did not ask for this to happen and I cannot control it. It’s something that happened after 12 ceremonies. It actually would be nice not to be so sensitive to energy because it’s very difficult being so in tune all the time. Like the best way I can describe this is just you know when you like someone and when you don’t right? Or you can tell when someone is being weird? Or you can read body language? We all have that sense in one way or another. Well it is like that but 100 fold. The benefit though is I am able to learn a whole bunch about life and how humans function.

The spiritual realm is a very real place my friend. You don’t sound open minded enough for me to try to convince you of anything right now.

Jesus is not the devil. But again I’m not gonna get too much into that particular kinda talk on this forum 🙃

Are you claiming Jesus is everything? This is getting into tricky territory for this forum Agree 100%!! It’s a big mess to be honest. Oh and I won’t be tripping anymore. I’m full on born again repented from my sins kind of thing. It’s pretty crazy what Jesus convicted me of. Dude Leo is absolutely onto something really good and he deserves mad respect, but he misses the mark on a few pretty big things imo. Also to the person who hid their comment. I’m talking about Jesus Christ. You know who that is otherwise you wouldn’t be talking like that…

Yes! Saying his name out loud is just as powerful! Seriously! Energy is definitely real… like you wouldn’t disagree with me that people have “vibes” right? Well it goes much deeper than that. Theres a whole big energetic realm with all kinds of spirits. It’s a very well known, undisputed fact in many cultures… it’s just in the US we’re more focused on materialism. Spirits are unseen beings. I mean THE Jesus.. the most high being in all of the realms that exist. Just because you haven’t heard of it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. Also, that doesn’t make it less valid. Actually the shamans I worked with were praying consistently to Jesus and working with him for many years. Eventually they quit ayahuasca and became born again Christians.

Yeahh it’s no joke. Drink it enough times and you’re gonna really start being opened up to spirits, like daily even when you stop drinking. That’s when the fun stops haha.

Sounds super similar to my story haha! I’m glad she found the truth!

Major eye roll.

I get what you’re saying and it all sounds fine until you experience what I experienced. It’s not your regular darkness you see on a psychedelic trip. Of which I’ve also had many, aside from ayahuasca so I do know what I’m talking about to an extent. Jesus does transmute but he also protects. And I disagree, darkness is the enemy.

Yeahh 12 times. Youre totally cooked haha

Yes 10000% sure. It’s amazing how people have these crazy experiences with Jesus and he totally radically changes lives.

There is definitely more to reality than just the mind playing tricks. And I disagree. Those are real spiritual beings that can show up in those heightened states of awareness

@PurpleTree Nooo not trying to convert trying to discuss because it’s so crazy. Also I was lowkey being funny

I’m trying to have a serious conversation here guys

Thank you for your response and I agree with what you said about needing to gain maturity around the energies. But you know what? Shining light, that is protection. Jesus Christ the most high, is the ultimate protection because he is the highest in the spiritual realms. If you haven’t experienced just how dark things can get with demons and dark energies, you don’t realize it’s not possible to do this alone. We need a spiritual master of sorts. Which is why so many turn to “ascended masters”. And Jesus is the most high master. I’ve seen darkness flee at his name unlike anything else. Idk what else to make of it other than he is the most high.

Yes. But I wouldn’t be so quick to assume that’s why. There’s many who turn to Christ regardless of their upbringing so that’s not a foolproof reasoning method…

Just because I’m curious, what exactly makes you sad about it? The fact that I’ve given into fantasy and belief? Or is it something else?

Yep! This is me! In new age for 15 years. Psychedelics and self realization type stuff. Got saved and overnight was healed from things I had tried for over a decade to heal in new age. Suicidal thoughts gone. Self worth issues gone. There really is something special about Jesus! I didn’t buy it either, thought it was bs weirdo stuff but I am a testimony to its truth! Praise God! Thank you Jesus, hallelujah it’s the best feeling ever. Completely unique to anything else I ever tried in new age, that’s how I know it’s real. If anyone has any questions dm me! I’m happy to share the good news about Christ. I was raised strict Christian and didn’t really “get it” until I got saved just recently.

That’s a really good question! And I could go on and on so I’ll just give you these specific examples. I was once highly manipulated while on psychedelics by a friend. Also, I once watched a Leo video where he says to watch this video before taking psychedelics and I did, and I saw the exact same images and had the same “realizations” he was talking about. Like we place all this emphasis on psychedelics as being ultimate truth because that’s literally how the insights are presented to us. There’s a culture around psychedelics and it’s kind of a hive mind and I think that’s the most deceptive part of it.

I literally just posted a video about this on my Instagram today! Weird timing. Basically, I put a lot of weight on psychedelics. I started doing them at a youngish. Had all these mind blowing realizations. My view of reality from 19 on was literally built on dmt and mushrooms. I got really into new age. I grew a lot, for sure. But sometimes I wonder like, was it all worth it? What was that all about? I’m grateful for my path and I respect psychedelics, but I am thoroughly convinced the propensity for deception is extremely, extremely high.

@TheGod No. I’m not gonna let you get away with this. This is absolutely ridiculous. To think this much less publish this on the internet is blasphemy and I’m embarrassed for you that you think this. Where the hell are you getting your samples for said proclamation? Me making a comment does not count. Just because women often do things differently doesn’t mean we are less spiritual. Just because women aren’t known for going into a cave and meditating for years doesn’t mean we are less spiritual. Or just because women haven’t written more philosophical books than men doesn’t mean we are less spiritual. It is completely idiotic behavior to make such a statement. And it does sound like you’re just repeating ideology you’ve seen on this forum. In fact your whole comment is soaked in it. What do you think women do? Fart around, raise babies? Make friends? Cook food? Fuuuuck. I’m WAY more spiritual than you. I guaran-fucking-tee it and you will not catch me saying that in any normal conditions but I’m flipping this fucking table because you are WRONG to say what you said.