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There's a deeper point here about re-inventing ourselves in general. It's clearly possible to do it, we naturally change from year to year; but is it desirable? Yes, we could personally manifest new energies, but I would say this could cause problems socially. Like it or not we are type cast by our friends and families and colleagues and to suddenly become "someone else" would be hard to deal with. The flipside is that we can just "inhabit" whichever character is appropriate to our circumstances. I would say this is incredibly powerful if done right. If done wrong this could be interpreted as social manipulation or a form of sociopathy. I think the dangers of this labelling by peers is very real. Be prepared for pushback!
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Is this a realisation someone must have or is it a truism? Is it enough to simply live life mindlessly or must you also mindfully develop spiritually in parallel? Is guidance needed in being spiritual or does it come naturally? I believe killer whales play with their kills (seals), and chimpanzees go to war. What makes them different to us? Or is it just sheer scale of numbers that makes us potentially unbalanced? Isn't this just anthropomorphising animals; can we use animals (and trees for that matter) as proxies for how to live life? Should we rid ourselves of "concern"? Or is that just being concerned about concern? i.e. a waste of living?
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I can imagine and ask questions, that's my true nature as a human. So I'm asking and imagining. But ultimately how life is/was lived doesn't matter, the Way is the Way? However a human lives her/his life is the way a human should life his/her life?
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So living shouldn't concern itself with being problem free - because there will always be problems? Is there room for reducing the number of problems? Should that be an aim for living?
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So happiness in all its guises is important for living? If it's all interconnected then we should aim to think and act in a systemic way to ensure happiness and survival, as a minimum baseline?
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Again, like @mandyjw's answer, I suppose the meta aim of living is simply to raise your baseline of awareness first? Or should this actually be a continual pursuit, like, where should you stop? I suppose my original intention was thinking of broad strokes rather than nitty gritty. But perhaps it's all personal and nitty gritty anyway?
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Two ticks for "Do what you want". Does this way of living require a certain amount of spiritual development? If so should the aim of living initially be to "get spiritually developed"? And then to live life in a kind of clear intelligent improvisation moment to moment?
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LastThursday replied to BipolarGrowth's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Ok maybe my wording was weird. I meant question in a rhetorical kind of why. Maybe goal is a better word. You want to reach a goal of "constant experience of consciousness without the ego", but you have already reached that goal. It's like saying: I want to experience a room without a chair, because the chair is ugly and makes me suffer. The room is Truth, but the beauty and ugliness of its furniture is not Truth. You're already standing in the room, but the furniture is distracting you. -
LastThursday replied to BipolarGrowth's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It seems to me like you're seeking the answer to a question you already know the answer to. That's just a story of the mind. Why get rid of the ego? Why meditate? What has will and mental health got to do with it? Why the struggle? As you say, with or without ego, with or without meditation, with or without will and mental health, with or without struggle, "There is just consciousness". -
LastThursday replied to BipolarGrowth's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Two levels. Two truths. Is the ego state of consciousness any better or worse than any other state of consciousness? Why the frustration if you already know the truth? -
LastThursday replied to WhatAWondefulWorld's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
My insight is: If you want to create insights on demand, then you have to have good questions. These are interesting or exciting questions you don't already know the answer to. Eventually you will get an answer, which is an insight. The harder the question, the better. -
I checked my mail box today only to find a lonesome scrap of paper in the bottom of it. My first thought was, not more junk mail! And then I read what it said: The reverse was blank. My reaction was informative. Had it really been handwritten, just for me? Nope. No writing indentations, it had been printed. So probably everyone in my block received one? Maybe it fell out of a Christmas or birthday card (it was my birthday last week)? But then why not just write it in the card? The paper it was printed on was a little rough and felt cheap. So next I thought, well what a strange thing to post, if indeed it was posted to everybody or even just to me. However, in amongst all this mental machination the real message had got lost. Someone had gone to the trouble of hand delivering an inspirational post from Zig Ziglar, with no other view than to give me inspiration! Or perhaps just to cheer me on. A random act of kindness, a random act of love for a fellow human. For that I'm grateful, whoever you are.
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LastThursday replied to Farnaby's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Just thinking out loud: 1. You can't compare two people's level of consciousness. How would you do that without guessing? Is their outward behaviour the same as their level of consciousness? Can a person with a high level of consciousness ever behave like a complete idiot? 2. What on earth is a level of consciousness anyway? Is it just intelligence, empathy, knowledge, learned behaviour, insight, "goodness"? 3. Even if you look at your own consciousness, does it really increase over time? And if you believe it does, aren't you just comparing using your consciousness at that moment in time? Isn't there plenty of room for relativity and self deception here? There are no levels of consciousness, just levels in consciousness. Over and out. -
Language is nothing without context. Context can be truth. "Orange" is just sounds or letters, only context makes it either a colour or a fruit. You don't see orange or taste orange with language.
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LastThursday replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Someone here what is birth? Contemplate this using direct experience. Birth is in the past. There is no future or yesterday. Every moment is birth and every moment is death, one gives way to the other. And both of those are illusions. -
LastThursday replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Paradoxical. How often do I get born just once, or over and over? Every time I'm born, do I not die also? What is going on here? -
LastThursday replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
How long do I get to live for? Now doesn't sound like a long time -
LastThursday replied to Mvrs's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
As @dflores321 says there is only this - the present moment. You can spin your wheels conceptually all day long; but there is still only this. Just accept you don't know and you'll be closer to the truth. -
@Hulia that's what really made me laugh. The answer is, is that there a pros and cons to both situations. The deeper answer is that you should be happy with either - where being happy is not dependent on the situation - but that takes a lot of self development and work.
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That made me laugh. I thought the opposite.
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More beautifulness
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There is no future. But in that case what's left? From the book Supernature by Lyall Watson - the last sentence is key: In short if we want to see the future, we need to have a wider view of the present. To do that you would need to expand your level of awareness. Another way of seeing the future outside of time is to employ Jung's idea of motifs. Instead of seeing events or things that happen (a motif) as a short continuous block of stuff - for example playing a game of chess - we instead see events as being discontinous and spread over time. So say we make only one chess move a day. The motifs in this case are "moving a chess piece", and these repeat at various semi-random intervals. We can "see the future" because we know via the rules of chess, what may happen in the game. But notice how the game is no longer one event, but many smaller events linked only in the mind of the players. That's crucial. Predicting the future is simply linking in the mind a motif in the present with one held in the mind of the past.
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LastThursday replied to Kalki Avatar's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Keep things simple. Keep busy and ground yourself with tasks that don't require too much thought. Stay in the moment with any tasks you do need to carry out. Take time off. Give yourself as much mental space as possible to integrate. Eat well, exercise regularly, sleep properly. Journal or speak to people about what you're experiencing if possible. -
I've been struggling recently to get anything done. I think if I were a bear I'd be just about ready to hibernate. Even the simple task of filling out a Christmas card to my mother is proving impossible. I just don't give a fuck. My work clients want two new third-party systems integrated and set up for January - no chance. And, I just don't give a fuck. My father sent me an e-birthday card early by accident, he was apologetic. Except, I just don't give a fuck. An ex-colleague of mine contacted me and wanted to talk on the phone, I haven't contacted him back. I just don't give a fuck. I desperately need to vacuum my flat. Yep. I don't give a fuck. What have most of these things got in common? Expectation. I'm expected to care. Paid to care. Socially expected to care. I just don't give a fuck. I suspect that is what age does to you for some. Ideally, I would engage people on my own terms. Then, authentically I would be acting according to my own desires. But I think the upshot would be that I would barely engage with any of my family. And I would probably have a completely different set of friends. I definitely wouldn't work for someone else to survive. But in all honesty, I would care even less about clients if I worked for myself. I'm not high on the conscientious dimension. This feeling of not giving a fuck started about ten years ago. I think it stemmed from having the dawning realisation that everything I'd ever done I had done to please others, or if not that then to take a "path of least resistance", in which I put myself at the mercy of others' decisions. In turn that sort of shoulder shrugging existence was borne out of fatigue at having to deal with my family's problems. At this particular moment in time, what I want more than anything else is to simply to be left alone to stew in my own juices. Christmas, I don't give a fuck. New Year, I don't give a fuck. Brexit can fuck off. Covid can fuck off. Lockdown can fuck off. Ah well tomorrow's another day.
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LastThursday replied to Focus Shift's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It's an unsatisfactory answer but: existence is its own context. There is no ulterior motive, plan, meaning, purpose, goal or anything more than just existence itself. But heck, what an existence! So no simulation. To say the universe is infinite, is to dream of two different ideas: universe and infinite. They are not enough. You can't define or understand existence in any way that describes all of it at once. But there's no need to describe it, because here it is. All that has to be "done" is to just be and let it happen - and it will describe itself to you (itself).
