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I generally agree with you. Dating evolves in a more honest and warm interaction. Two people discovering each other. I just don't agree completely with point B. If you completely reveal your intentions of "finding love" or "finding a girl to connect with" to a girl... she will freak the fuck out and see you as a clingy and shady person. She wants you to be slow and hard to get to start dating you seriously. I'm NOT the one deciding the rules of the game. It's women. If it was easy to just say "i want to find a really nice connection" every guy would drop the "must hold myself back before love" thing. I mean nice guys, not stereotypical assholes. I just mean nice guys with experience with women. I tried to be honest but girls don't like it IN THE BEGINNING. They like it after they already chased you. Again... I'm not the one deciding the rules. It would be wonderful if I just had to state my honest intentions of finding love. But if a man does it the girl gets scared as fuck. She has to say it first, then as a man you're safe saying it

@Leo Gura I would really appreciate to hear your opinion on this subject. Do you think that approaching girls in a natural and authentic manner is ok for a full stage green? I don't mean classic PUA style, but just approaching to find a nice girl to date.

Ok, I'll follow your suggestion.

Ooooook..... You don't even know me and the values that I have, and you have already decided that I unconsciously spread sexism and contribute to the problem lol. That's so offensive in regard to all the emphasis I put in my life to be accepting and non-judgemental of everybody's sexuality but... ok... I'm the problem. I'm the ignorant bigot. My bad. Thanks for the patience of taking part in the discussion. I sincerely appreciate the exchange. Have a nice day.

I never said that. I just made a point about the actual social freedom you have, but you don't want to acknowledge. Who cares if some old man from the 1930s doesn't like your sexuality? I've been shamed a lot by christians years ago, and also for my open sexuality. WHO CARES. I have the law on my side, and you too. Leave them alone. I'm here to hear these uncomfortable truths, if you please tell me. Still you don't get that I'm on your side though

Yes, I expected it. Because nowadays nobody cares about leading a rich and fullfilling life, loving people and accepting everybody. Now the trend is to scream and hate everybody. Liberals, conservatives, libertarians, etc... It's all screaming. It's all about "me me me me". "muh problems". It's not about the gift you can give to the world, it's not about the neutral playing field that we can create together, for world peace. It's all about smashing cars and starbucks windows with antifa. Sucks.

I'm not trying to be confrontational but this just proves my point I don't give a fuck what a muslim or a christian or a jew would say. It's my life. Got a problem with that? Go pray your allah. (not you, it's just an example ) If a christian says that I have a right to believe in what I want he's JUST RIGHT. It's not him defending himself, you're just distrusting people. He's just right on the facts. Who cares who says the facts straight? they are the right facts. If a terrorist says that you have a right to live, he IS right. Even though he is a terrorist. Who the fuck cares what other people think, You care too much. If all people had the same mentality like me NOBODY would shame other individuals. There would be no latent sexism, And no... i don't have blindspots. If i see a muslim guy shaming a woman, I SEE sexism. I SEE IT. I DON'T like it. I don't want these people around women. I don't have no fucking blindspots, sister i just want to encourage people to be empathetic and positive and NON-judgemental. If we start to point finger to eachother... it's never going to end!!! Radical fems have to stop pointing fingers at normal positive guys, because these are the guys who just want women to live a happy and fullfilling life, rich of experiences, love, sex, money and success. Society is shaped by mindsets, and by consensus. The consensus we need is to normalize social freedom for everybody: men, women, gays, heteros, lesbians, trans etc. Normalizing means NOT talking about it and encouraging people to be themselves. What you call sweeping under the rug it's actually called rewiring society with positive values. If we all start to act like everynody has the same value, we will ALL get the same value, The old fashioned peace and love <3 nonetheless I'm still the bad misogynist guy who treats women like property P.s. I think that if you knew me in person you would categorize me immediately as a very very liberal person towards women. But here you are misunderstanding me, since it's the internet

@Emerald even though we're arguing I still love you ahah I'm just saying that it's not by shaming peaceful and caring guys like me that you will fix society. You're just shooting your allies in the head and then complaining that you're all alone in your battle.

I'm agnostic. I was christian in my teenage years, and left religion because I hated so much the christian community for sex shaming, Now that I'm pretty green I'm very neutral towards religion.

I want to be honest, I don't like the finger-pointing energy coming from your posts but I get it that you want to fix these issues, I get it and I like it. But... why are you assuming that I'm the bad guy? Why are you assuming that I'm hetero? Why are you assuming that I've had it EASY in life? This is a HUGE blindspot. NOBODY has an easy life. Not even rich people. Life is harsh to everybody, in different ways. I've always been mocked for being skinny, a little bit feminine, too sensitive to be a boy, and all that crap. Yet you assume that I've had it easier than women. Nobody has it easy. This is true equality, it's called life. Life is hard, and life always finds a way to traumatize you. My family treated my badly, so did a lot of my teenage friends. Stereotyping men as bullies and women as victims is just pure ignorance. Let the guilty ones be judged by their ACTIONS, not their sex. I've never treated a girl badly, and so did a lot of my friends. Are there bad men out there? YES! are there bad women out there? YES! Should we stop it? YES! But the solution is not to shame me because you assume that I'm hetero and that I've had it easy. This shit about having it easy triggers me a LOT I want to be honest I've had a lot of issues in my life and in my psyche, it's very disrespectful to treat me like a privileged noble class. Peace

Oh yeah, that's completely true! @Emerald a trigger warning relationship with you (i'm joking) I think that PUA mixed with compassion and peaceful attitude towards the world is very effective and constructive in a relationship. I'm talking about mixing a deep understanding of female psychology with true compassion and heart. And intimate - caring sex. With orange energy I mean the attitude of excitement and polarizing male - female energy, not the robotic rational vibe of classic orange. I agree with you on that. I'm talking about a healthy mix of the two stages. I've had a very very deep and honest connection with my last gf thanks to this mixed stage I'm in right now

I deeply appreciate the response and I feel sorry and empathetic for your past. I have been bullied in the past and have had a lot of issues with people, so I understand your struggles with corrupted people in the past. I want everybody to feel safe. I just get this feeling that you're treating me like one of those "arrogant" guys out there LOL. It's the same feeling that I get when I talk about TRUE equality with some "feminists". They get triggered. And I don't get why! We should all stop talkin about evil this and evil that, and just learn to love everybody, regardless of their gender. Even all this hetero-shaming is insane. Let gays be gays, let heteros be heteros. What the heck is the problem?!? That's why, even though I AM half green, I don't get what these activists are doing. Just let everyone be gay, lesbians, or hetero. Who cares what you are?! Be what you want to be, be free, be happy! And also let me live my life without shaming my sex and my orientation. I'm not attacking you I just want people to be free of judgement, not to turn the pendulum the other way into an all female perspective. Also I don't like an all male perspective. Just let everybody do the fuck they wanna do!! Without harassing people of course. But let's just stop talking about it like it's a problem of MEN. It's not a problem of MEN. It's a problem of SOME people, of some individuals, who are ignorant and arrogant and intolerant. Let the other men be free and happy. So be the women. Peace

Definitely a lot of great insights! In my humble experience of getting to know girls with dates and also conversations with random girls at the bars, I see that the fully orange girl is the worst! It might sound retarded, but as a orange/green guy myself, I find the blue or blue/slight orange girls the best ones. They are loving, caring, respectful of your boundaries, and are fascinated by your more evolved understanding of the world. Also they have a hidden sex drive that they can explore with you if you are between orange/green. Green girls... I've had only one experience and she was mostly polarized (in a good way) by my orange side, because she felt excited by it by contrast. Fully green guys are too feminine in my opinion. They don't bring excitement to the woman, only positive feelings, but not so much polarizing emotions. Girls also need to be with the energetic guy who can bring her to excitement and a little bit of drama. Being overly feminine turns women off.

Am I 50% green even though I watch Tai lopez too? I'm very conflicted because I only like the green ideologies who are completely peaceful, and respectful of property and free speech. I also like Teal Swan A LOT, and RSD lol. And I get triggered very very hard by social justice, terrorism and antifa LOL. And the conservative tendency to bring war to the world too. I'm also strongly against the military draft. Very conflicted orange/green

I still don't get where I'm at in the spiral, precisely. I think of myself as high orange, around 85% orange and 15% green. I started following you years ago for success goals and success psychology, but I like your meditation and consciuousness videos a lot. I'm fascinated by enriching human kind with a new form of consciousness and healing this world from war and conflicts. I'm also very concerned with the economical well being of the world, of course. But I definitely have a small percentage of green which is made of accepting every kind of people, except the ones who threaten my life or my freedom. I also like affection and human contact a lot, relationships, intimate sex etc. Which is my greenest part overall. But I think that a lot of your viewers are like me, orange people with a little taste for green thinking which can evolve.

I'm doing meditation, still a beginner, and following Leo's and Eckhart's content. Learning to be present, to be conscious of my habits and thoughts. I've certainly discovered a whole lot of uncounsciousness in my life, and I'm still at the beginning. But what I don't undestand is... if we all are the same Consciousness, the same Universe.... What's the point of all this suffering, pain, hate, confusion, and ego in the world? Can't we/the universe just be happy all the time in Presence? what's the point in dealing with all this bullshit nonsense of existential suffering and separation from the wholeness of existence? I don't get it. It's so irrational and stupid... If I had the choice between peace and happiness, and pain and frustration, I would choose the first ones. Why is the universe choosing all this chaos and division?

Sorry for the noob conspiracy question, but I'm a little confused about the two polarities and the way that the feminine polarity is trying to express itself in this era. Is the feminine essence trying to eradicate the masculine one and impose feminine attributes onto men? I see a lot effeminization on us men nowadays, myself in the past included, even though now I have a more balanced and masculine polarity thanks to dating and socializing with girls. Again, sorry for the awkward question, I'm just trying to understand if a sane world of both balanced polarities is possible. Do you guys think that the male essence is going to die? If so, why?

It's social conditioning. We are generations raised by women, and women value security and conformity a lot. Thus they educated us and our fathers to be losers who conform to social norms. The nice guy is the default man of today and it's a byproduct of mothers and female education. Breaking free of it is a powerful form of emancipation from women, and this is why it's attractive. Women are also scared of male freedom because their instinct is to trap you. Don't let them. Also watch fight club, Tyler talks about it.

I completely agree with you. I'm new to the game and I'm benefiting from losing my nice guy syndrome, and connecting with my core. But what do you think about Leo's rant on the PUA community?

I have no problem saying two girlfriends. Can you sincerely say that these women you date are NOT trying to shit test you, frame control you, make you jealous, play female tricks on you, and try to tame you into a provider male? If not... well, you found the unicorns.

@Barbarian Number 8 so your theory is that the end goal of human kind is for men to lose their masculinity and women become masculine? What kind of fucked up world is that? What's the point of having masculine females and feminine males? it's going to cause human extinction. Which is starting to become appealing since all the decay we are seeing nowadays.

I've watched Leo's video about breakups, but my situation has particular issues not described in the video. I broke up with her peacefully on october, and we stayed friends because we have the same social group. On the first days of january she freaks out after an argument with me and blocks me on every social media. I avoided her since that time, going out with my peers only the days she was not there (she is with them only twice a month). Recently she unblocked me and sent to a friend of mine a message for me saying that she is now perfectly peaceful with me and that it's ok for her to see me and to talk with me, but she refused to contact me directly. Now i still don't contact her, I'm still afraid of talking with her and seeing her, so I keep avoiding all the nights out with her. Some days ago she personally added me on a whatsapp group for a party organized by her. So it's clear she is now perfectly friendly with me. Now this is the hard part: she recently started a relationship with a guy in MY SOCIAL GROUP. So they are a couple inside my social group. This news completely fucked up my ego and i feel completely defenceless and vulnerable, and afraid. Also it's been months that I don't like my social group anymore and want to leave, and in fact I see them rarely now. What do you suggest? should I avoid entirely my ex, even though she is happy to restart seeing me as a friend? And what about her relationship with the guy in my group? It hurts a lot. I'm not in love with her anymore but it's like shoving in my face that I'm just replaced like a tampon. If she found another guy from another group I would have been ok. My first instinct is to run away from the social circle, that I don't like so much anymore, and dedicate myself to pickup and building a new one. What do you think?

It's a very wise and clear response. Thanks. The most insightful part is not letting others dictate my life. I'm going to inquire into this concept and start to let this go. I'll go out and find new people. I think the universe wants me to lose my ego about this ex and this group (which caused me other issues in the past).

Thanks man! It's important to me to give something to my partner in a relationship. In my previuous one this aspect was very disfunctional and now I need to work on my game and on my emotional fitness. But will she give you the support back if she's in the healthy relationship you describe?

The area of solid relationships is my biggest sticking point. I have tried the warmer approach to intimacy and I've been fucked over, I've tried the cold version, and same results. How can I have an intimate and truly reciprocal affection with a woman in a relationship? I tend to show affection, help her out, be both a source of motivation and compassion. But they don't do this for me, they just feel entitled to get it from me and they feel bothered when I ask for compassion if I feel down or motivation when I feel demotivated. Is being an ice cold detached winner the only way to keep a girl? Of course starting from a basic of being a self actualizing guy with passions. Is it possible to ask and get emotional and motivational support from her in uncertain times of your life? or is the woman always leeching off of you?