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There is no contradiction between what "I" said and what "Leo" said

This makes me vibrate with excitement

Hahaha~ But even the philosophical and intellectual boil down to naught but realizations at the end of the day It's good though that you're considering balance. From your human POV, when "Leo" realizes Mahasamadhi, "Leo" ends "his life" while "other life" (including yours) continues. When YOU YOURSELF realize Mahasamadhi, all beings Mahasamadhi along with you and the universe as we know it literally ends. These can both be simultaneously True

Lmao oh honey

Self-Made Prison

Nope! You gave that thought-story "realness" RIGHT NOW through sheer Imagination. "I am Imagining and constructing RIGHT NOW the story that Yogis prior went through with Mahasamadhi, and that they died, and that I was unaffected, and this story feels like reality to me." ^This is (more in line with) what's actual. When "you" "die" - and get blasted into Ultimate Infinity - the whole world goes with You, period. As though the relative never even existed. That is what it means to Be Absolute. --- Of course, though, any of us on this forum speaking about these concepts now are still attached to this dream of life - many of us have briefly recognized the Absolute but are still largely hypnotized into imagining that the relative exists. Insofar as we continue to imagine that the relative exists - it will appear as so. I don't recommend getting too sucked into these words though. These words are bottomless and hollow. I am describing that which cannot be described when saying "The Absolute." One day you will know when you Know. Until then, take it easy and enjoy the relativity

"objectively unwholesome?" LOL

hehe.

You're treating "ego" as though it is something real. "Ego" is not real. It was never there. Don't believe me? Go find it and behold it. Disclaimer: You can't. I'm basically asking you to eat the food you see in a cooking video by reaching into the pixels on your screen. Once you deeply understand this - that "ego" was never even there to begin with - you will see that "ego" is incapable of "preventing consciousness" because consciousness Is, and ego is not! Now don't get me wrong - from the POV of a seemingly limited ego-identity, maybe it really does feel like "preventing consciousness" is happening. But I'm suggesting that even that is an illusion! So don't let an illusion derail Life Purpose for you! This is definitely a possible trap. But it doesn't have to be this way. Conscious Life Purpose is possible! From the human POV - any assertion of "inherent purpose" is necessarily false because human meaning-making is a fabrication at the highest levels. Maybe from God's POV though, there IS an Inherent Purpose - but you won't be able to make sense of it so long as you identify with being human. From the human POV - all purpose is indeed "created," manufactured, fabricated, arbitrary. But nothing stops you from deeply looking inward and being self-honest and open to your True Nature while simultaneously fabricating an arbitrary and meaningful Life Purpose!

honestly piece of cake if the topic is your passion 1. It's YOUR passion, doesn't matter who's with you or not. 2. It's YOUR passion, public reception is secondary. 3. It's YOUR passion, why would you talk about anything else? 4. It's YOUR passion, its engaging by default! 5. It's YOUR passion, why the fuck would you stop engaging with it after just a couple hours? 6. It's YOUR passion, what better thing would you even have to do during breaks? lol 7. It's YOUR passion, of course you come back to it time and time again

You're wondering if you were really ever valuable. The fact that he "moved on so quick" becomes a subtle reason in the back of your mind for you to doubt your worth. "Am I really that expendable?" "How real was our love, for him to leave it without hesitation?" ...Luckily, these doubts are naught but stories. Literal fantasies You are already Whole and Complete. It's only a matter of Realizing it

You will die alone, no matter how many people you surround yourself with, no matter how strong your bonds. What a beautiful thing...

lool no such thing exists

Psychedelics are almost mandatory for full God-Realization, unless you were born exceptionally spiritually gifted, or you spend literally 24/7 practicing active industrial-grade spirituality for decades. As an average person, you simply will not get anywhere remotely near full God-Realization doing a little bit of "awareness meditation/contemplation" here and there. Even if you do hours daily for years, that just won't cut it. As it should be. This is an INFINITELY INTELLIGENT Illusion, after all Just let that sink in. Obviously, it's not as easy as simply taking a psychedelic either. Tons of people gobble psychs to get fucked up, and they ain't God-Realized. So you need to lay the proper groundwork by still practicing sober spirituality, but at some point you will also have to take the psychedelic. It's a package deal, basically. One without the other ain't it.

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@Being Frank Yang FRONK!!

This is ENTIRELY up to you. You are (literally) free to do or be anything you set your heart upon! Don't outsource this part of your journey to "other people." Get creative! At the same time, work on grounding. Don't let an immature ego usurp and posture as God They all brush against God Realization to varying degrees, but Leo is the only one to directly address the ramifications: YOU YOURSELF as Omniscience, Omnipotence, Loneliness; Love.

@kinesin Where would you say you are on the SD spiral?

WOW, same here!

Simply gorgeous.

@Mellocean lol this thread is about attractive people in general - not men vs women

Well first things first; there is no "you" that actually "moves" (because there is no "time") "up" nor "down" (these directions are powerful metaphors but ultimately arbitrary). It's really worth re-emphasizing how this is merely a mental label for ego-communication Divorce this "up vs down" mental image from actuality - it's a map! Therefore, it is necessarily partial and limited. But to answer your curiosity - Yes, deconstruction is required to begin to break through the illusion of "human life" and "reality" as we think we know it. You will not become God Realized if you believe that physicality, humans, space-time, birth, death, your parents, and you are "real." Along with anything else you hold as solid, unchangeable, or "true." Yes, everything you have ever labored for or defended - these things all collapse into Imagination at the highest levels. There literally are no "other humans" "out there." All meaning implodes such that it was never even there to begin with. Your whole life is a lie, RIGHT NOW! So yeah, deconstruction is required for God Realization. But mere deconstruction alone won't get you to God Realization - since - "deconstruction" itself is Imaginary. As long as deconstructing is occurring, You are Imagining it - and just doing the brute deconstruction won't help you make the quantum leap in Realizing: "Oh. Imagination." My recommendation to anyone who is serious - and this is what worked for "me" - is to do some serious, industrial-grade deconstruction on your own time. Daily. For Years. Learn to intellectually, emotionally, and in any other ways remaining - dissolve all things that you hold as "solid, unchangeable, or true." (you could pursue this path farther - and deconstruct deconstruction itself - until all that remains is indescribable, formless, all-being-non-being - seemingly unknowable and eternally mysterious. That would be like going "all the way down" on the mental map from earlier) But then, If God Realization is what your journey calls for, "book a plane ticket" - aka take a psychedelic. With the right groundwork, and a heart aimed at Truth, the psychedelic will fly you straight to God. And it will be so obvious. "Leo" was right all along. Oh. But I literally CREATED Leo from scratch to be a thing separate from me with his own internal world - none of which is real. I can collapse "Leo" into nothing in the blink of an eye, because HIS ENTIRE EXISTENCE IS PREDICATED ON MY IMAGINING HIM. Lol, whoops. Who do I tell? Nobody. Only "The Great I Am" is left. But what about the advaitan/buddhist "indescribable, formless, all-being-non-being, eternally unknowable and mysterious?" Lol. You just Imagined that too. But aren't you just identifying with the construction of God now? How do you know that you're not just deluding yourself? Lol. You just Imagined that too. But yeah, don't mistake us to be saying that "Imagination" is some sort of constructive human mind-activity on-par with your typical "deconstruction." God's Imagination is LITERALLY INFINITE - "born of" INFINITE INTELLIGENCE. Your shitty human deconstruction is a joke compared to Imagination with a capital I! So don't take any of this as an ideology or a dogma. In fact, don't even think about "God's Imagination" so long as you are coasting through your daily life believing that you are a human in a human life with "other people." Leo's teachings are here to help you make that quantum leap mid-flight. While you're still on the ground, focus on deconstruction and Love

The key difference between "downwards" and "upwards" is that "upwards" emphasizes Omniscience, Omnipotence, Omnipresence, Omnibenevolence, etc. as direct realizations. The "downwards" counterpart is not speaking of anything necessarily contradictory, other than that it either de-emphasizes or outright denounces Omniscience, Omnipotence, Omnipresence, Omnibenevolence, etc. (particularly the first 2). "so many cultures" are imaginary >:))

This is in reference to someone else, not himself