RendHeaven

Such a refreshing take. Can't help but smile back!

Yup, good taste. For me it's: Japanese (/S. Korean) Colombian (/Brazilian) Russian (/Ukrainian) ...in that order. SE Asia is somewhere you'd want to fly to with your homies

Damn, I made that comment with love though. Why not fly to SE Asia if you want to bang SE Asian women?? It's perfectly reasonable and there's no shame.

@Unleash Yup, similar experience here. Went for 6 red scoops up the ass, and reality unraveled to such a terrifying extent that I was convinced this was the brink of mahasamadhi. If I let go any more, the whole universe would unravel forever and Consciousness would move on. That, of course, was the least acceptable thing to me, and although I had been letting go like a champ until then, at the last moment I completely shut down in sheer terror, and I instinctively clung on to existence itself for dear life (literally). From the outside I imagine I would've been contorting and panting and crying and slack-jawed (although in actuality, by that point there was no body. I held up my hand and it was simply un-rendered, I didn't even have the visual anchors of shapes and colors - it was all being swallowed into the white hole of infinite origin, and all reality-anchors were being deleted before my very eyes as if they were never there (which of course, they weren't). Insanity, death, terror, holding on - this is all inevitable at high doses of MALT. This is what Leo means by "epic mindfuck" and "will melt your reality down to a puddle." It's probably an acquired taste for serious truth-seekers, but many of us here are amateur dabblers. Needless to say I'm not particularly fond of MALT anymore (at least for where I'm at in life now). However I would like to think that this experience has changed me for the better in a permanent way. You can't unsee something that intense and true. The worries of everyday life are trivial next to the terror of God's Love. I'd rather go chase sex and money for 20 years before having to face myself like that again! (and ironically upon knocking on the gates of mahasamadhi, I saw with perfect clarity how all of consensus reality, mankind, and human desire is essentially an elaborate distraction-mechanism for God to avoid its own abyss - and so I am playing into my own hand perfectly!)

Destiny and Sneako are horrible examples of open relationships, they did everything wrong and of course it blew up in their faces If you want a harem it has to be managed in a highly specific manner that balances attraction and emotions for all parties involved. Don't get in situations you don't want to be in; and if a girl disagrees with you, you have to be able to completely let her go without hesitation no matter how sexy or sweet she is. Going to a sex party and watching a guy plow her is a trash idea and has nothing to do with proper open relationship management. I would never take a girl to such a stupid environment. If anything, I would set up my own sex party where it's all hot girls and me. And if that upset her for any reason, she's GONE. Abundance. Don't settle. Set the frame. Lead. Don't need anything from anyone. There are 800 million women aged 18-33 worldwide. Also destiny was basically in an open relationship with a gauntlet of rules which she was breaking behind his back. So it was really no different from a cheating monogamous relationship. You need minimal rules where both parties are free to do whatever they want - but you are so attractive that she organically craves you (and ideally: only you!)

All masculine men, given infinite power and freedom, would seek an arrangement where he is having sex with multiple attractive women, and they are all loyal to him. The harem. This is your "default ideal" and the only reason that it is never acknowledged (or actualized) is because of a titanic social matrix effort to frame control you NONSTOP FROM BIRTH which constricts you into the limited box of pre-made (unideal) relationship systems (namely; "fucking around" or "serious monogamy"). Of course, you also lack "infinite" power and freedom. If you lived with reckless abandon of true desire, you would die very quickly (socially and literally), because your desires would be in diametric opposition to other men and women, causing conflict and even war. Given your tiny realm of influence and sovereignty, the most you can seem to pull off is to sleep around with no commitment, or to choose commitment and to castrate yourself and hand your balls over to one woman and pretend you don't feel anything for other girls (all these husbands pretending that they suddenly don't want to have sex with the plethora of hotties around the world... what a herculean effort to lie to yourself just to stay in line and not rock the boat!) Building a modern harem is perfectly doable (the most attractive men around the world all have this arrangement) but it will require a lot of research, trial and error, failure, emotional damage, compromise, and personal growth before it starts to work. In 2024 you will NEVER achieve a lasting arrangement where you have multiple partners and they are all loyal to you. This is too selfish and hurtful, and they will all cheat or leave. If you want multiple girls, then each girl MUST have the option of multiple men. This doesn't mean you encourage or pressure her to go fuck someone else; nor does it even mean that she will (a lot of the times she won't!). You simply must honor her free will. You can also never get overly attached to one woman in a modern harem. You must reach a point where you both organically share energy and time together, perhaps even with strong feelings of genuine love - but if she walks away and suddenly gets monogamously married to another man, you barely even notice or care (yes she can leave you at any time, that's the whole point. this is also true of monogamy, but with typical monogamy you socially pressure her into artificially extending her stay with you) Do you have that level of outcome independence and sexual abundance? Probably not. Your default instinct is to "hoard" her and mate guard her and to place restrictive boundaries around her (scarcity; fear; selfishness) and therefore you settle for monogamy because you realize it's not fair to chain her up without you yourself being similarly bound and restrained. Tl;dr a harem is not only doable; but highly authentic. Many men are already doing it. But it takes a lot of effort, you have to kick all of your social programming and biological instincts, and completely identity-shift into next-level sexual abundance. Also, as everyone else is saying, you can't have a monogamous girlfriend and then suddenly assault her reality with "hey babe let me have sex with other women who are NOT you" If you want a harem, dump your current GF and start from scratch. If you're too weak for that, then give up on your true desires and don't think about any of this (like 99.99% of men)

@Lyubov elite passport bro rhetoric

Hot girls love me

Excellent wording, very intelligent take.

All cope, just go have sex

I've heard of this guy before, but I don't know enough to make real judgements My first impressions are as follows: Indeed impressive-looking for his (public) age, but smells fishy When I searched his name on duckduckgo (cuz fuck google lol), this is the first video that popped up: So even IF his information sharing was accurate and true, his optics and antics are WILDLY sleazy. And this low-integrity immediately makes me question if anything else he says is actually real. For example how can we be sure he's not secretly eating meat on the side while promoting veganism? Is he really even 62? (doing one thing, saying another is highly probable) And I'm also aware that one "exposed" video doesn't have absolute credibility either. After all, Leo has the same kind of character-take-down videos made on him by unqualified people calling him "cult leader." But certainly the green screen fakery is self evident, and markus has a lot of explaining to do. If he indeed eats exactly as he reports, then his sky high antioxidant status protects him considerably from the downsides of high PUFA. But that doesn't mean high PUFA is necessarily the optimal play, because low PUFA + antioxidants accomplishes the same thing and more

lololololol your description gave me flashbacks

Ah shucks. "kinks" is an understatement to my Japanese blood LOL

I am omnivore, but I've been eating grass fed beef and whole eggs every day for the last 3 years Last I checked: LDL = 160 HDL = 60 Tris = 60 There are strong correlations but absolutely NOT causal. The phenomenon of Lean Mass Hyper Responders throws a big wrench in the paradigm of "LDL = BAD" and this is often simply brushed to the side instead of tackled head-on (i.e. LMHRs are relegated to the sidelines as an outlier rather than seen as a core dysfunction in the causation model)

@aurum It's also not lost on me the irony that both Adam and I are essentially saying "wow bro you're such a close minded scientist" and yet we are advocating for opposite diets with equal fervor (he thinks fruits and veggies rule and meat is placebo; I think meat is king, fruits are secondary, and veggies are optional) So naturally one of us must be "wrong" due to our mutually exclusive positions, and the scientific consensus would comfortably say that we're both wrong since we're both essentially banking on personal experience and lacking the "meta view" of, you guessed it, human outcome studies To everyone's dismay, despite being highly aware of this irony, I'm still going to insist that I'm probably right. And to annoy everyone further, my only rationale is "try my diet bro" : )

Excess PUFA will slowly (over (a) decade(s) or so) lead to disease by means of oxidative stress - the brute fact of PUFA being susceptible to oxidation is common knowledge and should be non-controversial (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipid_peroxidation https://poe.com/s/kKvpc4aPJk25YxRxJHuE) but for some reason nobody spells out the elephant in the room which is that all modern humans have excess PUFA stores in adipose tissue due to the introduction of seed oils in the food supply chain since 1912 (and you can literally test for this with adipose tissue biopsy), but somehow we're going to just deny or ignore this obvious mechanism because hastily conducted studies favor PUFA (without controlling for antioxidants)? All I will say is, there's a lot we've yet to discover... This is a good reality check. I'll keep it in mind. I agree. I would love to offer myself to studies later in life. I plan to continue my low-PUFA meat diet for as long as it serves me so I should end up being an interesting specimen. For the time being, my hunch is that my ways are right for everybody, and they just don't know it yet. But I'm not arrogant enough to be absolutist. I'm simply strongly opinionated and passionate and its very obvious to me when a plant based advocate or science white knight thinks he's being more meta than me but is in fact close minded. I have no formal proof, and I'm open to being wrong. You have a really elegant way of verbally sticking up for your subjective experience.

u were definitely too needy and he got LMR. should've negged off the open and leveraged push pull to control the frame. tonality was too logical. could've moved him around the venue to get him used to your lead, before isolating and pulling to the afterparty

Yes but only if you drown in psychedelics or kill yourself physically (and I don't recommend either)

I'm not impressed at all by a guy that looks like this You can just feel the estrogen and hair loss on this lad. Try animal based for 3 years and report your results. Or don't, and continue to yell across the river without getting your feet wet

*exaggerated false surprise* but that's just YOUR personal experience!

This was me 3 years ago when I was eating salads and tofu and fish every day like a good boy

I mean honestly all whole foods are "OK" My main thing is to stop eating all seed oils and to make beef the centerpiece of your diet. Everything else is variable. I recommend macademia nuts because they are high MUFA, low PUFA, and rich in antioxidants.

Ancestral argument for sure, but that's not all. I am seeing and living a synergy between Ancestry + Mechanisms (it's spelled out in very clear layman's terms on Wikipedia that PUFA --> LA --> Oxidation --> Disease, as long as you connect the dots yourself) + personal experience with turning my life around the moment I got rid of LA + identical anecdotes from my most trusted IRL connections (e.g. @Jason Actualization went low PUFA and literally erased Eosinophilic Esophagitis, which is a crippling autoimmune condition that according to google has "no known cure," and to this day modern medicine will prescribe you lifetime pharmaceuticals to control symptoms instead of actually curing you. And no, Mediterranean diet will not save you here. but amazingly whenever he tells people about this fact, with photo proof, they still find a way to dismiss him "because the studies don't agree" and they essentially gaslight his low-PUFA feat by saying that the disease probably naturally went away without his herculean effort to lower PUFA and that he is probably misattributing the cause of his cure to his pseudoscience diet. Which is just a stunning display of devilry, pointing fingers and accusing OTHERS of deception when you yourself are not pure.) I am not afraid to admit that I am banking on a half-baked hunch; but my argument is that rational science followers are in fact doing the exact same thing in structure with different content - with the additional wrinkle that their studies overrule everything else and give the illusion that their conclusion is final, i.e. they're not willing to change their mind until a new meta study comes out that tells them what to think "super human" relative to anything that anybody has seen or thought possible for themselves. Yep, hence I have no issues around spot supplementation which is something that our ancestors did not have access to. My favorite supplement of all time is Magnesium Bisglycinate, which I believe every human in 2024 should be taking! But I see your point, you are taking "super human" very literally. I am using it to loosely signify a level that is just beyond believable attainability. Unfortunately I agree. Which is why none of what I said in this thread is anchored to the work of any public influencer or celebrity health coach. Although, as I've already said, I do trust Paul Saladino - but not because I learned everything from him and he is my authority, but rather because he seems to have discovered a very similar paradigm to me independently and in parallel, the way the west and the east both invented the wheel without consulting each other. You can look up his work and you will quickly realize how """"superhuman"""" his vitality is for a 45 year old. He posts his bloodwork and day in a life for the public to see, and he champions low-PUFA red meat exactly as I do. You would be hard pressed to argue that he is doing anything wrong health wise, and the biggest arguments I see against him are: "yeah but he's bound to get heart disease eventually!" projection; bias; cope. Time will tell and you will be wrong. "yeah but he sells organ supplements so he just wants your money" dude he has to sell something to be able to spread his message in the world lol. what, do you expect him to work a 9 to 5 to support both him and his girl, while giving out all of his knowledge for free? be real. "yeah but he cherrypicks all his studies so I don't trust him" I don't engage in study battles, so maybe this one is actually valid. Although I would urge you to open your mind to the possibility that what you see as "cherrypicking" is actually "careful navigation" @aurum I appreciate the civil discussion a lot. I'd like to know your thought process and journey to having a similar diet to me despite maintaining a higher level skepticism

Good contention. the unique inefficacy of nutritional studies is the impossibility of truly isolating for the subtle effects of each individual food group in a well executed intervention. With a pharmaceutical or a vaccine, you can track results for control group vs placebo group vs interventional group, and the results are usually acute (meaning they don't take months or years of tracking to manifest) When we're asking if meat really gives you cancer or not, you can't control everything that someone puts in their mouth (not even for a day) much less for months and years. You can't match diets perfectly to isolate groups into "no meat" and "placebo meat" and "real meat" - all else being equal. Also, meat is not one monolithic thing. Even "red meat" is not specific enough. For example I champion beef, but avoid pork like the plague. But this distinction is of course lost on all studies. The typical beef eater is also a pork eater, so the two get lumped together as "red meat" in the eyes of researchers (even worse, red meat is further lumped together with processed/preserved meats like bacon, ham, sausage, salami). Rarely, you have a high quality interventional study that actually attempts to control every food variable for a long period of time. And if the study group is significantly large enough, we call this a trustworthy nutrition study and parrot the findings as dietary truth. But even then I have low faith in such schemes. For example, I don't know the PMID but apparently there are studies showing that higher PUFA = more cardioprotective benefits. Seed oil defenders love to bring this one up. And apparently it's a high quality interventional study where all variables are accounted for with proper isolation. And yet even this study has its glaring blind spot, which is that "their low PUFA group" still has overwhelmingly high PUFA by ancestral standards! So when they claim to compare "low PUFA diets VS high PUFA diets" they are in fact comparing "high PUFA diets VS ultra high PUFA diets" and not a single person in that study has ever even seen what a low PUFA human looks like. The rules of the game change for a low-PUFA human. And the results and ramifications are completely uncharted. Which is why I stress the consumption of beef (rather than pork or chicken or fish). It's not just that I am mindlessly eating whatever meat feels good; I am honing a concentrated effort to reduce my PUFA as much as reasonably possible, without diminishing any auxiliary benefits (hence why I still eat eggs) Thus nutritional studies are helpful, but they are not the end-all be-all. Understand the context in which the study is being conducted. Be discerning as to whether or not the findings apply to YOU. In our lifetime, we will see more low-PUFA red-meat health champions come out of the woodworks. Eventually (may take decades, sadly) these people, including me, will be studied, and a whole new paradigm will blossom. Or not. Because modern nutritional science is not interested in admitting that maybe unprocessed grass fed beef is actually divinely healthy LOL. There's actually a massive epistemic gravitational pull to keep the status quo in lock. There are simply too many institutions benefiting from the plant-based narrative and the cultural zeitgeist of "green = health." As in - literally the color green has a consensus association that is being leveraged by health institutions and marketing efforts and identities across the globe. Imagine unraveling or usurping all of that with a fucking steak - it may never happen. The eyebrow raise is expected and healthy. I've already spelled out my diet to a T in both this thread and other threads; I've spelled out every major benefit in bullet points, as well as time frame, as well as auxiliary habits and goals: Let me know if you have any specific questions or concerns (and same goes to anybody reading this)

@Emerald Seems so. And I completely understand and respect your position. By the way, I re-read your first aya ceremony report from 2020 and it nearly brought me to tears. You really are a gem. I once received a little keychain that read: "don't underestimate the difference you made and the lives you touched" I'd like to forward that to you : ) Sweet. I highly recommend macadamia nuts as well.