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@MsNobody Thank you for this. I spent longer on that post than I would've liked (a whole hour... sigh). My aim is for men and women to begin to understand each other. Half the battle is to merely hold the "other" in your mind as a force of good, even when you are looking at their ugliest representatives. God, I love women so much. If God erased women overnight, I would kill myself without question. The only time I've ever heard "I love men so much," EVER, was from a group of Latinas lol

Holy crap are you kidding me? 10 level red scoops up my ass would absolutely flatten and murder me lol, just 6 scoops got me to the edge of the heat death of the universe. "pretty chill" for that dose is wild You must be very naturally high-tolerance for psychs (this is not uncommon, some of my buddies are built like this)

GOAT!

Hmmm not a fan. There are undertone insinuations here (taking into context all your other posts on dating): men supposedly "love sex" in an unsophisticated, predictable, simple, base, stupid/shallow manner women supposedly "love sex" in a sophisticated, unique, complex, refined, intelligent/deep manner Well get to this later, but even without reading into the subtext, your claim simply does not fit my lived experience. Regarding women: I'll only briefly mention the endless HOARD of horny, frivolous, carefree, happy women who fuck like dogs and don't have a firmly-held identity about being a sexual gourmet critic! You must not be familiar with the Latina community in southern Arizona and Mexico (and ALL of central/south America lol). The authentic, unrepressed sexual frivolity of women from foreign cultures may surprise you. Do these girls "not count?" Or perhaps they haven't matured yet? I find that you have a very refined personal taste and you project that onto the entirety of female sexuality. You're not entirely wrong in doing this, but you downplay or ignore the "scooby doo and shaggy" aspects of femininity (because those are the aspects that get targeted by men. Having a "refined" sexuality keeps you safe and impervious). This is not a fair understanding of your sisters around the globe or even of your own inner Goddess. Alright, back to the "undertone insinuations" above... If I could boil it down to one sentence: I think you grossly underestimate how sincere the average man's pure sexual desire/longing is. You will never know the depth and power of raw admiration and ecstasy a man can feel by merely fixing his eyes upon a woman - much less touching her, or getting to know her deeply (the inverse is that I will never know the depth of a woman's subjective attraction, which you frequently point out. And I completely agree, but it actually goes both ways). Since men experience attraction within seconds (often physical) and sex is always on our minds (again, physical), I see why this seems to you as "scooby doo and shaggy." But make no mistake that this raw, unbridled admiration, and oftentimes lust and impulse, is an endlessly deep, compelling, intelligent, and divine force. Nothing short of a true miracle. A man's love of sex and his fascination with a new woman, which flares up unprompted, is the soul's recollection and appreciation of Infinity itself; we see in you the brilliance of Eternal Beauty (with a capital B!) in ways that neither of us will ever understand. We can also enjoy the "climax of the movie" without any buildup because we see the entire movie - or in some sense, the whole cosmos and the majesty of creation - in that one second alone. What may seem shallow and tacky and rushed to you is inexplicably precious to me. So let's take a concrete example of this underestimation of sincerity in male sexuality: You (and the other intelligent ladies here) often write an elaborate breakdown about the average man's repressed shame, and how he must drop all facades and open up his heart and interact with women from a place of organic inner truth - but then in the same breath you will inadvertently shame men for attempting to learn pickup or cold approach, seeing his earnest attempts to date as somehow manipulative or insecure or insincere or reinforcing a fundamental falsehood. It may have never occurred to you, but for a young, healthy, single man, in touch with his emotions, with no shame - running up to pretty girls and saying hi, and offering to spend time with her, is GENUINELY the highest possible degree of authenticity, truth, openness, self-embrace, surrender, and non-manipulation in that moment. In fact, seeing that pretty girl and NOT talking to her because, "emerald on the actualized.org forum told me that I ought to focus on embracing my shame, and doing cold approach is bothersome to women - so I'm gonna fixate on personal releases without bothering anybody until hopefully a girl "organically" discovers me one day, the way Justin Bieber was plucked out from early YouTube by the music industry!" - this is what real deep-seated self-manipulation, dishonesty, perpetuation of shame, and holding on to ego looks like. In your favored world of surrender to authenticity - happy men would actually be thrilled and blessed to initiate conversation with random happy girls, and they will do this hundreds of times, if that's what their desire commands. And lots of consenting sex will happen, and it will be apparent that both the masculine and the feminine have their brand of scooby doo (shallow, simple) and gordon ramsay (deep, complex) sexualities. Alas, the real world is not so peachy, and nearly everyone is inauthentic. So reading this, you might comment back that maybe "pickup" or "cold approach" isn't inherently bad if it's done from an authentic place, but perhaps your main contention is that a lot of guys are doing these contrived approaches from a "forced" place or attempting to fill the void within by leeching from the external environment. And you know what, you're right. A lot of guys are pretty fucked up, and they have to whip up a mental frenzy just to go say hi to a cute girl (I am deeply, deeply sympathetic to this). That's clearly not the healthiest relationship to oneself or to women, so your critique is somewhat valid. But I will tell you from direct experience that it never gets easier. As a man you can spend 10 years in retreat doing emotional release work and opening your heart, but the moment you leave your house and you see that cute girl, all that shit goes out the window and the only way you will ever talk to her is to kick into a mechanical, "action taking" gear to blast through your self-image blocks and to bootstrap initial action-taking momentum. This takes brute force and repetition. It's an ugly process and a stepping stone (before you can authentically and freely say hi), but you cannot skip steps. If you ignore this step in favor of a more "organic" encounter, you will be permanently crippled in the degree to which you honor your own inner desires, like a lion who only knows how to catch sickly prey ("organic encounters") but can never run down the fastest, healthiest gazelle (hottie across the room who you may never see again). Such a lion could only live with himself by pretending he never even wanted the faster gazelle; pretending that there is no virtue in speed or ferocity; or convincing himself that the sickly prey is perfectly satiating and all he will ever need. As a woman, you will have no sympathy for this condition: in fact, you may accuse me of advocating for inauthentic and harmful behaviors, and you will certainly take offense to the prey metaphor, and you will frame my claim above as being overly fixated on initial attraction without giving any thought to longevity, and I understand why you would think all of that, because your concern is for these poor girls and not for these poor boys. This here is the fundamental misunderstanding: It's not about who's right or who's wrong. That was never even the discussion. It's always been about who's concerns do you identify with? That is the only game in town, for all of us. But this is what I mean when I say that you underestimate a man's sincerity (this seems to be a collective feminine shadow in the western developed world). Yes, we men are horny; yes, we are often inconsiderate; yes, we can be hurtful - VERY hurtful. And I make no excuses for this behavior. But underneath all of that is a real desire to connect. And for a lot of us this desire happens INSTANTANEOUSLY, within seconds, with a sincerity which you will never understand, because frankly it would terrify you if you ever fully understood, and it likely already terrifies you even in your ignorance. So perhaps you're not meant to understand male sexuality, and that's OK. But by refusing to remember our basic goodness, it is you yourself who is torn apart. I am well aware of the destructive and dark capacities of men and their desires. But I hate to see the ladies here emphasizing this time and time again (often implicitly, nothing is ever said out loud). It's never celebration or praise or real encouragement of a man's desires on our terms (and who can blame you? y'all don't owe us anything, and we haven't done anything to deserve it, and truly empathizing with us leaves you painfully vulnerable) - every post is colored ever so slightly with the following tone: "Men are insensitive and predatory; women are complex and vulnerable; be yourself fully, release your shame, and you will attract real love one day! (but you're a MONSTER if you go out of your way to "hunt" us! How dare you be spontaneously attracted to us, and how dare you want sex when you don't even know me yet! How insensitive! Shame on you!)" Something about that tone just makes me really sad. I aim to one day live in a reality where I will have nothing but pure celebration, praise, and real encouragement for women and their desires, on their terms, without being naive to their faults and shadows. But that will demand a lot of me and I will have to give more than I am currently willing to give.

Haha what a fascinating man. I would love to sit him down and pick his brain. I'm still not convinced that his rock solid conviction is not just deeply cemented expectations from early childhood (modelling his environment; his parents and role models, etc.) What if we took the same man and raised him as a roman prince 2000 years ago? Or as a caveman 40,000 years ago? Would he still pick out his queen and scoff at the notion of sex with any other woman? It's not so clear. In fact, we will never know, so whether his convictions are an artificial collection of social expectations or a deeply original desire will never be known - nor is it so clear-cut. At this point in his life, the dichotomy of programming and originality bleeds together, and in the end you guys are happy so in your case it makes no difference. I still have a sneaking suspicion that ALL men (yes, literally every single one), raised without societal programming, would covet multiple women. And even if you show me a living breathing counter-example, I will find a way to blame society (heheh). But I'm aware of my own projections and fallibility. At the end of the day I know nothing. Still, I speak (and write) with firm claims because I love being opinionated. I understand. I have this really personal esoteric woo-woo belief (I have never shared this with anybody) that every woman on the planet is literally my daughter. Sometimes I look at my own mother and see in her eyes the fear and longing of my unborn daughter and it simultaneously breaks and warms my heart. It's really impossible to explain but I'll try. My default is that I honestly don't even perceive distinct individual women (unless she needs me to see her individuality; which I am happy to do as well, for her sake). My subjective POV is that I just see One Goddess spread across countless vessels (no - literally! I can't make this up). And Ultimately, She is identical to me. My insatiable, howling desire for WOMEN is in precise proportion to my masculine identity which has forsaken/abandoned my feminine identity. You may imagine that upon my birth, there was a cosmic rift where everything feminine was torn away from me. Even as my mother held me in her arms, there was a subjective "her vs me" distinction being formed where this field of consciousness slowly forgot the quality/attitude of actually embodying source femininity. From this moment on, no matter what I did, or how I acted, I could never BE the Goddess I once was. But this was a necessary fracture. I "had" to forsake/abandon this Goddess (Myself), because if I held Her close for Eternity, I would stay as Her, and I would never know what it's like to stumble onto Her with fresh, foreign eyes. And she would never know what it's like to be cherished and contained by this foreign God known as "Man" The leap from this nondual origin story to "every woman is literally my daughter" is more of a poetic liberty. I say daughter simply because I deeply recognize and feel how every woman wants to be held, and that I am responsible for hearing her plea and placing myself firmly between her vulnerable core and the cold world (which is also me) from which she craves sanctuary. Hence we have Me protecting Me from Me because that's what Me wants. I can't think of anything in this world that is more compelling. Bless you. Note taken This has always been my view as well Beautiful. Thanks!

AI is still too PC for my taste. I mean I guess the forum is no better though haha. Y'all would lynch me if I really spoke my mind Hence, IRL inner-circle is the way to go

Fair I don't care how deeply transformatively transcendently intimate I get with a special girl, if her best friend with big boobs shows up one day my dick is going to get hard and you can't shame away the truth. Matter of fact, if ur pp stops getting hard from hot girls just because ur in looove... ur gay You literally pulled that out of your ass lmao Spawned out of thin air I like the confidence though

I can tell! you are sincere, you bring sharp, appropriate, relevant counter points. you are curious This is really important not a good idea to have your girls under the same roof (in fact, horrific idea and a total fantasy) Agree. Everything I've been saying has been done by men I know, and let's just say I have some personal experience as well. Good theory. I would peg myself at ~80% masculine, ~20% feminine (and in japan, I have to really play up the feminine because the girls are so much more tiny and shy. my masculine western aura is like a wall of pure intimidation unfortunately! I literally do visualizations of being a teddy bear before going on dates) 100-0 would NEVER work, because feeling and safety are so critical for nourishing a woman's spirit. 50-50 would also never work because she needs that sexual magnetism and grounded/leadership I would say any ratio between 70-30 to 90-10 is ideal, depending on your personality, your age, your country, etc.

haha fair Which is why a non-monogamous man should never make false promises. It's always these stupid horny guys who say "baby it's just you and me forever" and then promptly cheat. Gross. Yes. I'm fixating here on the male POV to answer OP's desire, but there is a whole realm adjacent to this discussion about what the hypothetical feminine queen of the universe would do given 0 social restrictions Yes in hindsight I don't remember why I said you were "raging against the monarchs" lol. I was being dramatic. How would you know the difference between a man who has been repressing his desire for multiple women his entire life VS a man who genuinely only seeks one woman? How would the man himself even know? I encounter this argument a lot. A lot of currently monogamous women refuse to acknowledge the potential that even they themselves could be polyamorous under the right circumstances with the right man. They quickly draw a mental boundary which segregates polyamorous people from "normal people like me" with labels such as "traumatized, fetish," etc. I'm not necessarily suggesting that you're right or wrong (I'm open to you being right), but rather that your arguments align with arguments I hear from other women who very evidently try to preserve their self-generated sense of monogamous uniqueness (it's an unconscious identity-survival mechanism) Nah, I grew up in America and right now I live in Japan. I do not advocate for lying to women. If I'm seeing multiple women, every girl clearly knows this, and if she doesn't like that, she is free to fly away. You would be surprised at how stable, sincere, cute girls will stay by your side for years with this arrangement, so long as you NEVER control her and you never lie (oh and you have to make her cum regularly lol this is non negotiable). Basically, attraction + FEELING VERY SAFE = she genuinely likes you and has no reason to walk away 3 biggest reasons she will say no to this offer: she's just a really jealous person I generally avoid these girls. plenty of hot, sincere, non-jealous people in the world! she feels the NEED to get a hubby ASAP generally women in their 30s. If your goals don't align, have a bit of (consenting) fun and part ways the guy shows his colors and she says fuck u guy brought this on himself. stop being manipulative. because the swarm around the man is always celebrated and cherished, while the swarm around the woman is largely pests and nuisances. therefore in a "sex at dawn" scenario generally speaking the man is thrilled (encouraging the swarm), and the woman is annoyed (rejecting the swarm) Yes, when spelled out in this way, there is a clear male advantage to this arrangement. Girls who cannot handle it will leave of their own free will, and I will cherish their memory. Wow! I am rather fascinated by marriages that last 10+ years, especially when the sexual intimacy is still strong (you must understand this is very, very rare in 2024) How is your oath different from what most people are doing?

t'was a parody, I understand what you're saying

"c-c-cuz all those girls are TRAUMATIZED SLUTS and these so-called "successful guys" are just MANIPULATING THESE POOR WOMEN'S TRAUMAS!" - intelligent, spiritual girls who insist that attraction is a mystical, anarchistic free-for-all, and refuse to admit that some guys are simply sexier than others.

Same, I was mega gay 4-5 years ago drinking all these damn NUT milks bro fml why didn't anybody stop me

I feel significantly better during and after 5meodmt than MALT in terms of body load MALT always makes me feel like the body is made out of an uncomfortable prickly molasses that's just my subjective viewpoint though.

bro red+blue flavor is literally unfair

If you've ever watched porn and you had multiple tabs open, that's a glaring sign that you would enjoy having sex with multiple women. It's always these same monogamous "I love my wife" mfs who have a history of extended gooning You're right that introducing and keeping multiple women in your life long-term is a recipe for drama and annoyances. You must have extremely strong frame and high expectations for the people you give your time to. If they give you shit, don't be anything more than FWB and don't give them your time. If they really give you shit, stop seeing them completely. But girls in general love men so if you can anchor them into that innate state of affection that they already have, it's it's an upward spiral.

A modern "harem" doesn't necessarily mean that you have an elaborate ring of girlfriends. It can be a simple as 1 girlfriend + 1 fuck buddy (and they are both aware of the other, but do not necessarily have to be introduced to each other) Any man in 2024 can arrange 1 girlfriend + 1 fuck buddy if they have attractive outcome independence, strong communication, and honesty And if you are greedy, you can have more, of course. There are resources on how to set this up and you can talk to many guys who actively live this lifestyle.

tl;dr: "ur gay" that's so fire

The feminine "deception"/indirectness/inconsistency (chaotic being) is a terrifying power. It will lash out and react on its own. It will also heal and reward on its own. She cannot be controlled. A feminine woman will never be 100% "truthful" or "honest" to us men in the colloquial sense - her sole loyalty is to the whims of her inner Goddess. And it's our job as men to love that with all our hearts. Scary indeed, but doable. Takes strength.

Heh, story of your life

Similarly, we could say that: All women are deceptive foxes Most women completely deny that they are a fox, and pretend to be a more pleasant animal, like a cute kitten. Repression. Some women love the fact that they are foxes, and wrap men around their fingers to control and extract commitment, resources, etc. But then there are some women who know they are cunning foxes, but pick their targets with care. They use their deception for the greater good (maintaining social harmony, helping people to surrender to the present moment, to divert attention to beauty and peace, etc.)

Tl;dr: All men are wolves with sharp teeth. Most men pretend to not have teeth at all (repression; stage green) Some men love the fact that they have teeth, and they run around eating everything they see (actual rapists; stage red) But then there are men who know they have sharp teeth, but they choose not to eat indiscriminately. They use their teeth for the greater good (building structures, connecting people, leading movements, protecting women, etc.)

I actually unironically suspect this, so it's already been digested Which is why I would hope to meet a girl who has tamed that aspect of her lying/deceptive psyche, as you would hope to meet a man who has tamed the "rapist" aspect of his psyche Correct! Well said. Yes, this has caused me much turmoil I've had this conversation with myself many times, taking both sides. By now I've accepted it. But I can understand why others will not. Great analogy though, I see your point. Yes I understand If we assume for a second (hypothetically) that I'm onto something - we would say that a lot of men are repressing their "rape instinct" (stage green); another handful of unbecoming men are embracing it and causing lots of harm (stage red/orange). But that's not the full picture. With more self awareness and self acceptance, a man can acknowledge and unchain his "inner rapist" without allowing it to corrupt him and become destructive. You can picture this as a form of sexual transmutation or high-level embodied shadow work. That aggressive, dark, demon/beast energy can be wielded for good. As you maintain that there are brave and valiant men throughout history - please understand that these men are simply "wielding" their "inner rape instinct" for consciousness and unity rather than selfishness. That's the key difference - but the actual substance is the same thing: that raw, assertive, conqueror energy is the bedrock of YANG, deep within the heart of every masculine entity. I've been calling it an "inner rapist" for the reason that its MO is to impose its will onto the universe without seeking permission from its environment. That is the true spirit of a man. Thus, every man has the latent potential to be a rapist, that is, a desire to act his will without seeking any permission from his environment. How this manifests on the physical plane is infinitely variable, depending on his degree of self awareness and self acceptance. He could be a literal rapist, or a greedy CEO, or he could be a loving father of two kids, or an honorable firefighter, or anything in between. As Emerald used to say - the ideal man is like a Lion coupled with a Lion tamer. Or even as you've said, the ideal wolf is a good wolf. And I agree! I'm just saying that all wolves have sharp teeth. Even the good ones. A woman who gives herself to a man is trusting the wolf not to devour her. And a man who gives himself to a woman is trusting her to trust him not to devour her (many of us are scared of our own power; and a trusting, sincere, open, feminine woman is like a blessing from God and a reminder that it's OK for us to have fangs) Only if the rabbit is prioritizing self preservation. That's OK, I understand.

my only "cheat meal" is chicken with butter or nigiri sushi

I'm 1m80, 75kg, 1000ng/dl testosterone. Diet is grass fed ground beef, eggs, white rice, pomegranate juice Jason is 1m76, 80kg, 1000ng/dl tesosterone. Diet is grass fed ground beef, whole milk, eggs, white rice, pomegranate juice, beef liver, atlantic salmon