Leo Gura

The fact that you equate Truth with the unchanging is already a limitation of your models. Truth isn't limited to that and there is more to get than just the beingness part of truth. But your ideas of "valid" spirituality came from somewhere and they are running you. You have an extremely limited, reductionist understanding of Consciousness. This sort of reductionism is typical of Buddhism and Vedanta. That's where is originates from. It is a form of group-think and paradigm lock, and I would go so far as to say that you don't actually understand what Consciousness is, even if you had some glimpses of truth. Trying to teach you is just impossible because your cup is already full of nondual dogma. I have totally new things to teach you about Consciousness, but you have stuck your fingers in your ears. So I am going to stop trying to teach you. I have to make a list of every user on this forum who refuses to be taught anything new because they already know everything. So that I stop wasting my time on you. In good faith I try to teach everyone. But you guys just abuse by generosity.

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure there were nationalists on the Ukraine side too who were engaged in local violence.

Yeah, but the point was about pre-war. There has been fighting in that part of Ukraine before Russia invaded which they have used as pretext for the invasion. I don't really know who started it and who did what. It's a mess. I'm just saying there's nationalists on both sides which throw fuel on the fire. Of course at this point Russia has committed many atrocities during the war and fighting back is necessary.

That's what grows you the most Sartre has a famous quote: Hell is other people. I propose we change that to: Hell is being stuck with a group of hippies for a week

No, it's much more tricky than that. You have ideas about what nonduality is and what is means. You have mental models of "the bottom line" which you conflate with reality itself. Even what you consider "the bottom line" is a state of consciousness. "But Leo! I've accessed the bottom line so it's not a model." << That's a model you hold. How would you even know what the bottom line is? Or that there is only one bottom? Or that you should be pursuing the bottom rather than the top line? All these things are conceptual constructs you hold, even if you have some meditative accomplishments. Something has to tell you that your meditative accomplishments are "it" or "the end" or that you're "done" or that you've reached "the bottom line", or that this is "The Truth". This is all mind stuff. It's very much the point because consciousness needs to grasp itself. This is an active function of consciousness, not some passive "truth" that you just get handed to you or hit your head against like a brick wall. Truth is not a reductionist thing. Truth requires extreme Consciousness to grasp. It's a very high order capacity that you don't even know you have yet. Truth needs to be comprehended. Stop strawmanning everything I say by parroting that. You're just parroting Buddhist dogma at me. You're not actually thinking for yourself! What I'm talking about has nothing to do with "craving more experiences". This is the biggest bullshit that Buddhists parrot.

It is a subtle framework which constructs a paradigm that will limit your awakenings and access to the full gamut that consciousness is capable of. Nonduality is not contradicted per se. Of course reality is ONE, but there's way more to consciousness than just that. Just don't forget, gravity's a bitch

Yes, that's the challenge of this situation. On the one hand I must allow for diversity of opinion and perspective. I have no interest in being a tyrant here. On the other hand I cannot allow people to run wild with ideas about Awakening/Consciousness/God which I know are untrue. Which makes for a challenging balancing act. In the end you have to decide whether you trust my leadership or not. Ultimately this issue is not avoidable. You can't really follow a set of teachings if you fundamentally disagree with the creator of those teachings or you think he's leading you in the wrong direction. You can't sign up for a meditation retreat and then also hold that the guy who organized the retreat is deluded and wrong about the most fundamental of things. If you think that I am fundamentally wrong about Awakening/Consciousness/God, then don't waste your time playing games with me. Go be with a teacher or community where your views align. Don't waste time. Do whatever you feel you need to wake up and get closer to Truth/God. There is no use hanging around here struggling against me. I am here because I cannot leave this place without shutting the whole thing down. You, on the other hand, can find any number of spiritual communities which will fit your values and worldview if this one does not. There is no point in following a spiritual leader who you do not respect. If you truly believe that I'm bullshitting you, then you shouldn't follow me and you shouldn't be here. The reason I kick some people off this forum is when I see that they clearly do not respect my leadership but stick around here just to play games and argue. This is a waste of time and energy so eventually I will kick such people out. Not only for my sake, but for theirs. Do not waste your time in unproductive argumentation. The goal is not to argue, it's to increase consciousness. I teach very radical things which are not for most people. My teachings do not align with many conventional, happy-go-lucky spiritual schools which seek to be noncontroversial, nonconfrontational, and "all-accepting". I am not spiritually "all-accepting". There are worse and better ways to do spirituality. Traditionally the way this worked is, you find a guru who you deeply respect, and then you follow his leadership. And if you think you know better than him, then he cannot be your guru. Now, I don't really consider myself anyone's guru. I don't want to be your guru. I want you to think for yourself. But some baseline of respect for my authority is necessary because what I do is lead people to consciousness. And I think I do a decent job of it. If you disagree, then don't interact with me. It's that simple. I am not going to waste time on people who do not want my leadership when there are thousands of other people who want it. We are not on the same level. I am in a leadership position. You are free to reject my leadership. But then we have no more business talking because I am certainly not going to be following you. Nothing personal. I wouldn't follow the Buddha himself. I teach things that nobody else teaches. It's up to you to decide whether you want such teachings. I do take responsibility for what I say. In this case the issue isn't one of my word choice, it's more fundamental. Even if I chose my words to be the sweetest ones possible, the core issue would remain: people here who think they understand Awakening/Consciousness/God, but actually don't. And there's no nice way to tell them that. They will fight it tooth and nail because that's how the illusion is maintained. But at the same time I cannot sit by and allow such misinformation to flourish on a platform that I am responsible for. This does not mean that I cannot be sweeter or kinder. I can make improvements there. But my core positions on the nature of Truth/God/Love/Awakening/Consciousness -- this is not negotiable for me, I am very certain about these things after all the work I've done, and I have a low tolerance for spiritual bullshit. It's very clear to me when spiritual people do not know what they're talking about but have convinced themselves that they do. Of course you can always claim that I am wrong/deluded. In which case we just have a fundamental disagreement which will never be resolved through talk. In which case, go do it your way. But don't waste time arguing with me, trying to convince me of something. No human is every going to change my positions on Consciousness. Because all of my positions on Consciousness from this point on can only be grounded in my personal experience, not anything human. No amount of talking with any human will ever reveal to you the true nature of Consciousness.

It doesn't falsify it per se, but nonduality is a mental framework which limits what consciousness is very much. You have all sorts of ideas in your mind what about consciousness is and how it works from all the nondual stuff you've read. These frameworks need to be dropped to truly explore consciousness. No Samadhi is much less interesting or radical. I've had plenty of samadhi with physical objects.

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Don't even get started with me. You don't know what Awakening is yet. Notice something: all you guys here who think you're advanced and humble, you're actually extremely arrogant. More arrogant than me. You just hide it under a veneer of spiritual humility. Don't think for one minute that that's fooling me. That will fool your Buddhist gurus, because they play the same game, but it won't fool me.

As I told you, you're playing games. And none of this is personal. If you're gonna be on this forum, I will tell you when you are not Awake. And if you find that unloving and disrespectful, you're not gonna like being here. It's not about being better than you.

@Etherial Cat Keep playing your games. Meanwhile don't kid yourself. You've got a lot of awakening left to do and your fave gurus will not help you achieve it because they themselves don't have it. All I'm here to tell you is that your spirituality is a sophisticated game. But none of that is fooling me. Nothing personal.

You sure would like that to prove your case. Unfortunately for you I'm not so insecure about whether you believe me or not. I don't ban people just because they disagree with me.

I'm sure there were war crimes committed in that region by both sides. It's basically Russian vs Ukrainian ultra-nationalists fighting against each other for control over that land. Atrocities are just gonna be part of any fighting that happens in that region. I wouldn't blame any one side over that. We clearly see Russian troops committing all sorts of atrocities in this war. They are just not very professional or well-managed military forces. They are mostly just winging things and so atrocities result.

It's okay to do 5-MeO-DMT before Aya because 5-MeO is out of your system after about 90 minutes. But if you reverse the order it can get into lethal territory.

Not really

@Hello from Russia Of course Putin is just using that as a lame excuse to have his way. The real problem for him is not Nazis, it's the West taking over Ukraine.

Every time you open your legs, Earth is watching

No, it's not a visual thing.

Earth demand you be less slutty

Great show.

There is nazis (extreme nationalists) in every country. This idea that Putin says that there are literal German Nazis in Ukraine is silly. What he means is extreme nationalists, which of course every country has. Basically the hardcore American MAGA are akin to nazis.

Hitler comparisons will not help you understand this situation. Maybe. I'm not really arguing for or against that here. There is a larger issue of NATO and Western hegemony which everyone in the West just ignores. But Putin cannot ignore that.

Listen to his interviews, speeches, and study his life. He does not behave at all like what you suggest he is. He's not at all like Trump. Trump is a shallow moron and coward. Putin is a genius and patriot. You are not considering how much stronger NATO would be if Putin just let the West slowly co-opt Ukraine and turn it into their staging ground. And yet, consider how American politicians would react if Russia co-opted Mexico and placed missile silos in Tijuana. In practice Ukraine is not powerful enough to have a voice in this. This is a proxy war over who controls Ukraine, Russia or the West. From Putin's POV Ukraine is just a puppet for the West. Ukraine has no power without the West and it does the West's bidding. Also, Putin considers Ukraine as part of Russia, historically. To give it up to the West is like a huge betrayal of loyalty. I'm not saying Putin is right. I'm just saying, try seeing the situation from a non-Western perspective.

I suggest being careful not to project your human "stuff" onto planet Earth's consciousness.