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With good education we can still steer people away from bad political views. Of course people of lower intelligence will gravitate towards lower, more violent views. You can't teach democracy to a chimpanzee. It takes intelligence to foresee that violence leads to worse outcomes for all involved.
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Leo Gura replied to ShardMare's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Even if someone is acting illogically, Being still has logic to it. The mind can behave in all sorts of illogical ways. But the structure of ontology remains. Greeks called it the Logos. God's Unity is a function of logic. So logic literally holds the whole universe together. God is Love because logic is true. If logic wasn't true God could not be Absolute Love. Absoluteness requires logic. -
All story is about conflict. You can't sell a story where a guy just sits under a tree in happiness.
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Leo Gura replied to integral's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Nothing distorts their epistemology more than capitalism. Doctors follow the money. It's the corruption stupid -
Let them eat space.
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I have a deeper puzzle for you: You can have $20M but you turn into Jordan Peterson. Do you take it? Lets you reflect on the value of not being Jordan Peterson
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Leo Gura replied to ShardMare's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You guys have a real problem understanding the transcendent nature of logic. You don't even understand that God's very existence requires a logical tautology. I was trying to teach you something profound but you insist on being dense. Casting logical pearls before swine. -
That's why I shared Game B sources with you. Why would I share Schmachtenberger's or Hall's or Vervaeke's work if I didn't see value in it?
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Leo Gura replied to ShardMare's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
When I speak of logic I do not limit logic to the human mind's logic. Human logic is just the tip of the iceberg. Infinity has a higher dimensional hyper-logic which includes but goes way beyond human logic. Even if you have something like a hyperbolic 4 sided triangle it will still be subject to hyper-logic. Infinity itself is hyper-logical. There is a logic even to madness. -
Leo Gura replied to ShardMare's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That's what I pointed against. -
Leo Gura replied to ShardMare's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You are distracting from the thing I was pointing to. -
The Game B crowd is very conceptually elaborate, and that certainly can become a trap. Which is why I resist using their jargon. It makes the mind so complex that it's easy to get lost in human bullshit. It's a similar problem in academia. Academics are so smart they're stupid. They are trying to impress themselves with elaborate concepts instead of grasping the simple fundamentals.
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It is possible to do high consciousness collectives, but this is a very specialized niche. You must be prepared to sink years of effort into doing it well, which personally doesn't interest me, so I don't do it. But for some people it will be a good path.
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Be careful. I did not post that video to sour you on Daniel. He has much wisdom to offer. You can learn a lot from him. My point was just to show how tricky the most advanced aspects of this work are. I am not here to discredit Game B people. I just use them as examples of certain advanced traps. A certain level of leniency is needed because no one is perfect. You can nitpick any teacher, any guru, any intellectual, but that itself becomes a trap. Appreciate the value that people like Daniel offer. Learn from everyone. Don't nitpick.
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China is not Green. Don't kid yourself.
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I have never found contemplation stressful. Exhausting, yes. Stress is dealt with by scaling back and minimizing your activities so that you have lots of free time in your day. Stress comes from packing your day full of endless stuff to do. What's stressful is survival. Like a rat running endlessly in a wheel and getting nowhere. Existential contemplation is actually a reprieve from that. Try to make contemplation enjoyable. Thinking about reality is enjoyable.
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Leo Gura replied to ShardMare's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Nothing transcends Consciousness. Logic is woven throughout consciousness. It is the structure of consciousness. No. You could make that distinction but it would be imaginary. Logic is just how things are. If you imagine a triangle it cannot have 4 sides. That's the logic of triangles. All imaginary things have a structure and that structure has a logic to it. Imagination is not just willy-nilly anything goes. If you imagine a cat it must not be a dog. Distinctions work in a logical way. There is a logic to distinctions. For example, when you imagine a circle, it must have an inside and an outside. That's the logic of circles. And a circle is a distinction. The way dualities work is logical. Distinctions are like drawing shapes on a sheet of paper. No matter what shapes you draw, the paper is still one and all the shapes are united by existing on the paper. Drawing does not cut the paper. Truth is that which unites all things. Truth is the "paper". -
I do have a bias against that. Yes, there is collective intelligence but it comes with so much risk. It's like juggling knives. You're more likely to fall into collective stupidity than intelligence. But of course I see the value in looking for ways to do collective intelligence well. That's just not my area of excellence. That's for more social people than me to lead on. I do admire the Game B crowd for attempting collective intelligence. I just see that it will fail and that I can reach higher intelligence solo. As soon as you create a collective, you're in the realm of politics. And I don't want to be a politician. These Game B people will never Awaken because they are too distracted by collective survival. I foresaw this trap long ago, which is why I never built a collective. I would rather die alone with God than die together without God. That was my decision. They made the opposite decision. You can try to do both. Good luck with that. You're gonna need it.
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You're still just a tadpole.
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Every time I point out a limitation in someone's worldview or method, I am accused of trying to be better than them. It's such a trite gaslight at this point that I'm sick of hearing it. Maybe I'm a narcissist. Or maybe I just care that you don't fall into their epistemic traps. The disturbing thing is that I care more about your epistemology than you care about your epistemology. That's because I know what you will lose.
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Because of terrorism.
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Ralston is an Epistemic Titan. This stuff is so obvious to me, so basic, that I don't beat it into you guys enough.
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I studied AP Government and AP Psychology in high school. But of course most people don't. And even those classes were not deep enough to fix the epistemic rot.
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The whole point is that that doesn't work. Actualized.org is different in kind from Christianity. Don't you think I understood the problems of religion and ideology when I created Actualized.org, and designed Actualized.org to side-step those problems? Actualized.org does not ask you to believe in any spiritual thing. It only asks you to question everything to the bone. You can deconstruct Actualized.org. That doesn't contradict Actualized.org. The only goal here is to free your mind until your mind goes infinite. Which is what religion ought to have always been, but never was.
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Leo Gura replied to AION's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes. It's extra bad for people who are high-ambition and highly creative.