Leo Gura

Self-deception is a bitch.

But that economic development matters! Economics is pure survival value. Yes, Israel has much better economics which allows it to be more developed and civilized. It's not just easier to seem moral, it is the foundation for actual morality. Morality requires survival margin. Desperate people do desperate things. If I put a gun to your child's head you would start acting in immoral ways. And yes, upper hand matters too. America too would use nukes if backed absolutely into a corner. But the point is that America has enough margin to never be backed into such a corner. The margin isn't incidental, it is fundamental to development. Hamas are like rats in a frying pan. So they act like lunatics. It's sad, but it just is what it is and you have to deal with the rat at hand, not some hypothetical would-be scenario. If a mentally ill homeless man attacks you on the street, you gotta deal with him immediately, you cannot sit around lamenting about how unfair his childhood was. Yes, I'm sure his childhood was very unfair, but now he is a violent lunatic about to bite your face off. You cannot just let him run loose around your family.

Awakening is such a radical state change that it feels like you've broken reality. It's a state change so radical that the human mind cannot even imagine that such a state change is possible. It is an impossible state. So yeah... nothing you've been doing has been it or even in the ballpark of it. I know it's frustrating. I'm just being very straight with you so you don't waste your time jerking off. Really what you need is a breakthrough dose of 5-MeO-DMT. That would show you what I am talking about. A lot of stuff I say will suddenly make a lot more sense.

Yup. God is very odd.

I don't know if it's good business. It's a possible business.

@Santiago Ram Congrats!

I spent hours this week reading step by step about how Mossad assassinated top nuclear scientists. Poisoned, mail bombed, car bombed, shot in the face. Anyone who comes close to building a nuke in the Middle East will get a visit from Mossad assassins. That's how serious they take this matter. Netanyahu nearly launched an IDF invasion of Iran to take out their nuclear facilities.

Luxury is often impractical. Case in point. When you are installing glass toilets, that's when you know your life is hollow.

One object is not the issue. The issue is people who make their life about pursuit of luxury. This does not apply to you, so don't worry about it.

It's a big deal since Europe will fall behind in the AI race and become poor, which will lead to fascist movements. Europe needs to be technologically and economically competitive, not just stagnant wellfare states. Europe needs to compete with China's rapid development.

The only reason Iran hasn't made nukes is because Mossad assassinated all their nuclear scientists and sabotaged their reactors. Assassinating scientists is technically a war crime.

They ARE starving them and the world ain't doing much to stop it except some stern phone calls. What's actually stopping Smotrich is not the world, it's internal Israel civilization. Too many in Israeli government would disapprove of an actual genocide.

I agree that you are dreaming all that.

No! Israel would not. Israel can kill every Palestinian, easily. They do not.

You are fine since you are focused on higher things.

That is fine. That is not what I mean by luxury. Building up your nest is good. There are objects of convenience like an MP3 player, which is fine. Then there are objects of luxury, like some fancy diamond watch or a $3000 bottle of wine. I know a lady who installed glass toilets in her fancy house. Shit like that is what I mean.

ISIS < Hamas < Taliban < North Korea < Iran < Russia/China < Israel < USA < Scandinavia There are many degrees.

MEGA Make Europe Great Again

@Karmadhi According to this report 7,500 civilians were killed by the US military in the first 2 years of Iraq invasion. https://asiatimes.com/2023/03/how-many-iraqis-did-the-us-really-kill/# But Gaza is way more densely populated and the US has much higher level of military standards and professionalism. Also US was not interested in ethnic cleansing like Israel is, since they live there. But also, US was not really under existential threat. Israel is much more threatened in the Middle East than the US is.

Now I get to use your logic against you. Isn't the US more evil than Hamas? After all, the US invasion of Iraq lead to some 100k-500k deaths. If you just count raw death numbers, the US is more evil than Hamas. But see, this is bad analysis. Likewise, it is bad analysis when applied to Israel. You can't just look at raw death count. Moral development is more than that. Your analysis is too simplistic.

Yes, I know. But it's still different. No matter how much history you cite, how many examples, it's still different. Post Oct 7th Israel has lost all self-control. Similar to the US after 9/11. Israel was much more reasonable before Oct 7th. Yes, I am mostly focused on Pre Oct 7th Israel because Oct 7th was just a heinous attack which would enrage any civilized nation. You can't reasonably expect an attack like Oct 7th not to trigger a huge over-reaction. A major problem with Hamas is that they are not developed enough to even care about that. They did the attack anyway, knowing it would lead to their destruction. This is why they are so low in development. A developed political group would not undertake such an attack because it would backfire so badly on their own people. But since Hamas is suicidal, they don't care.

Europe's biggest problem is that they are not ambitious enough. They are lagging behind in entrepreneurship. Too much of that soft Green socialist welfare-state malaise.

@The Caretaker There is a problem at both extremes. Extreme poverty is a serious limiting factor. But so is extreme comfort, luxury, and complacency in 1st world democracies. Many people in the West are just too addicted to social media and porn to build a proper life. Building a proper life is hard work. Why do it when you can just sit around playing video games while your parents pay for everything?

I am informed of those things. But they are waging a war at this point. Yes, in a war stuff like gets blown up. And after Oct 7th Israel is doing revenge and ethnic cleansing. Yes, Israel does revenge attacks on civilian targets sometimes. They can't help themselves. Those are war crimes. War crimes are common in war.

That's the wrong question. The question you wanted to ask is how morally superior is North Korea to Hamas? That's an interesting question. They are both quite awful in different ways, but at least North Korea is sane enough to not nuke their neighbors because North Korea is not suicidal. Hamas is suicidal. Suicidality is quite the mark of low development. Especially for a political group. North Korea is awful, but actually their diplomatic dealings are rational. North Korea can be reasoned with. A suicidal actor is just impossible to deal with because you can't even count on them caring about their own lives. This is ultimately why groups like Hamas must be destroyed. You can't make deals with a suicidal actor. Israel is being asked to make such deals, which is a lot to expect of Israel. Any deal Israel makes, some Islamic lunatic will just blow it up. This creates an impossible situation.