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Yeah, well, Netanyahu ain't on board for that. He wants to weasle out more land.
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1) Where are the Palestinians supposed to go? 2) Not every ethnic group gets a homeland. 3) Jews already have a homeland. The issue is them expanding into someone else's homeland. Jews losing all their land is not even on the table.
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Leo Gura replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Because it's what's true. Some things may fall into place and others may not. Maybe a rocket falls on your head. -
There's the rub. Who says it's theirs? A perfect example of relativity in action.
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Yes, although I think Israel is much more captured by religious fundamentalists than the US.
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@Hardkill They also got lots of orthodox religious fundamentalists and nationalism.
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Even if they don't, you can't assume that progress is linear. So it doesn't really matter what the history was. Today is unique.
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Leo Gura replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
When I realized Absolute Truth as the highest level, I realized that I am completely powerless to change anything. You are trying to manipulate but instead what you get is total surrender. -
That requires a deep historical knowledge which I don't have.
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Of course. No different than USSR and China. Because socialism cannot exist at such low levels of development. Marx himself said that socialism can only come after capitalism is exhausted, and these countries have yet to master the basics of capitalism. Palestine is stage Red/Blue, Israel is stage Blue/Orange.
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@Nabd Well, there was supposedly Leftism in South American countries as well, Cuba, etc, but look what happened to it. Leftism in underdeveloped places ends up turning to crap.
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It's hard to compare to those eras because I don't have a sense of how much things changed back then.
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Social progress always comes slower than you'd like. Especially when it comes to structural changes to the economy and the like.
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Leo Gura replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
No. You must deal with all the shit that comes with being finite. -
@Nabd Leftism is not sustainable in war-torn areas.
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Leo Gura replied to woohoo123's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@woohoo123 Have you ever seen a deity? Have you ever seen Hell? Maybe before you go worrying about deities and hell-realms you should discover Absolute Truth. Then see what remains. The point of Absolute Truth is that it cuts through all the human bullshit. -
Well, they can do that but then they get no sympathy from me and whatever terrorists do to them is their karma. Israel is basically making this bargain: "We will grab all the land at the cost of X Israeli lives." Okay. Have at it. You can have all the land in the world if you are willing to pay the price in lives and you have no integrity.
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Yes, that is a factor. But under this logic there's nothing else to do but endless war and ethnic cleansing. A serious peace agreement has never been reached from what I understand. Could it hold if it was ever reached? That's a problem too. Yes, it would be hard for the Palestinians to keep their terrorists at bay after so much radicalization and provocation.
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There will always be a significant security threat to Israel from the Palestinians unless they make peace. Israel wants land more than they want peace. So there is no peace. But then they shouldn't complain about lack of peace. They could complain about lack of peace if they did a peace settlement and Palestinians violated it.
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Leo Gura replied to thenondualtankie's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
I think he's just trying to be extra careful. -
I will push you out of your home and eat you on some pita bread.
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And nothing about that situation will change. It's irrelevant to the land grabbing issue. Iran also tries to undermine Saudi Arabia. So what? The Saudis are open to allying with Israel as long as Israel treats the Palestinians decently. Israel would also have the full backing of the US if they treated Palestinians decently. Ukraine clearly shows how powerful a small country can be with US support. With US support no one would Holocaust Israel.
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Stealing Palestinian land will not change that ratio at all. If they don't like being in the middle of a billion Muslims, then they picked the wrong part of the world to settle in.