Leo Gura

@bebotalk All that means is there was corruption.

This is easily explained because IQ measurement is related to education. And education is bad in poor countries. Lack of food also lowers IQ. So the causation is reverse of what you think.

This is a silly notion of pickup. No girl is gonna sleep with you if she doesn't like you.

Do you have any idea how much more charming my conversation skills are with women now than before pickup? My verbal game, sense of humor, charisma, confidence, and ability to handle women has skyrocketed. That's the attractive part. This comes naturally with massive experience. Pickup is mostly just about gaining massive experience with women. What most guys experience in a lifetime I have experienced in a few years. And women don't care how you got the experience, they just like an experienced man.

Nice!

You are framing this as good vs bad when in reality it's about people who take action to improve their attractiveness and those who don't. Women don't want lame "good guys".

Find the Wikipedia page for confused.

It's silly to blame this on pickup. Girls go out and party and socialize all the time. So they could always find a new guy to sleep with if they want. The solution to being cheated on is to develop yourself into a stronger and more attractive man, through pickup. If you do pickup there is no need to sleep with taken girls. You can easily just target single girls.

@Dodo It's important to keep the following context in mind: Many men are natural pussyhunters, regardless of pickup. Pickup just formalized the activity and gave it a name. But pussyhunting is a natural aspect of masculinity regardless of you views of it. It does not take a lot of brains to be interested in pussyhunting.

Examples??

I didn't include ones that don't have clear Wikipedia pages.

Women have the need but it is different.

He is a good role-model.

Legality varies around the world and we have many international people here. So people should judge legality for themselves based on their local laws. I am not going to regulate that. But as forum policy we avoid links to shady activities. Shopping on eBay is fine.

There's a lot of overlap between Red Pill and pickup. But less so with Incels because they took the path of victimhood and inaction. Pickup community requires massive action, so that excludes a lot of the lazy, depressed, and hateful people.

That girl looks 15. Why you posting creepy stuff on this forum?

The most important thing is for you to develop yourself into a mature and conscious leader, with integrity. Otherwise your community will turn into a cesspool from your own corruptions.

It's not a legal issue per se. It's just a policy to reduce problems for us as a community. We don't want to develop a reputation for shady activity.

Can and could, but not must, and not even a majority I would guess. It feels like you want to put pickup guys into this shame box which you have constructed in your own mind. Of course some of them fit in that box, but I would be careful about over-generalizing, especially since you don't have personal experience going through pickup, so you're sorta speculating about what it's like to be a man and why men act as they do. It would be sorta like if I said that women overeat because they feel hidden shame. Or maybe some women just like to eat junk.

Sourcing is prohibited for illegal items.

Personally, I never felt shame when entering pickup. I just felt inexperienced, insecure, and eager to learn how to get good with girls. You can do pickup just for the mastery of it as a skill set. You can also do it for the adventure. Outsiders don't realize what a rush and exciting adventure the pickup journey is. It's like traveling around the world. The adventure of it is better than the sex. When you're on the pickup journey life becomes exciting and fun.

This is a good read: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shame

They are roughly at the same level, with differences mostly in style and manner. Don't worry about which is best, worry about how to use either one for something useful.

I wouldn't call that shame. But, yes, many men feel that way when they struggle to get sex.