Leo Gura

@Osaid If there's no unenlightened humans then no point speaking about enlightenment.

Truth.

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If consciousness cannot lower itself it cannot dream, which would be the ultimate limit. Just the fact that you were born is proof that consciousness can lower and limit itself. You can't have it both ways. You can't say that all these humans are deluded and unenlightend and then claim that consciousness cannot be low.

You don't need a conspiracy when you have so much ignorance.

Everything is deniable. What would happen is that it would be denied.

@Osaid You are engaging in reductionism. You CAN do that. But then that's all your world will contain. You are choosing to relate to Consciousness that way. Consciousness does not have to limited to your reductions. You create a self-reinforcing reductionist dream, so then that becomes your reality. But that is not my reality because I think bigger than you.

Yes, but that wisdom is still relative to how the world is, which could change. That's not necessarily true. God could dream a dream in which fundamentalist Christianity is objectively true. But that's not our current dream, and it's not even the dream of Christians. A Christian's dream includes that Christianity is ultimately a fiction. But there can be a deeper dream where Christianity is not a fiction. But no Chrisitian is powerful enough to dream that. Not exactly. There are domains of Consciousness where wisdom simply doesn't exist or apply. Wisdom is a human sorta thing. A crocodile don't give a fuck about wisdom. No, because a Trump supporter is a thing within our particular world/dream, and relative to this world they are deluded. In a different world they may not be deluded but that doesn't mean anything in our world because politics is all relative to one's world.

No. You have some power over how you use your mind and that leads to different actions which influence the universe in a small way.

How is it not obvious to you that you could experience a short term mental performance boost at the cost of lower long-term performance? Many things in life give great results, with a hidden long term cost. Just as a basic example, studies show that chronic weed use leads to deterioration of memory over the long term. I love weed, but I wouldn't want to lose my memory as I get older so I would not use it chroncially.

What's being dreamt is not up to you, it's up to God. And it's not really even up to God because God is just an absolute ocean of dreams. God doesn't manipulate the dreams, God is surrendered to whatever dreams must be dreamt. That's what Absolute Truth means. There is a certain absolute flow to Consciousness. It's like a mighty river that no one can stop, not even God. They are just different styles of dream. Some dreams are very loose and others are very rigged. Notice, humans need sleep to rest because they get exhausted from too much rigged dreaming. Consciousness has to balance out the rigged dreams with loose ones or it goes mad. That's because the nature of Consciousness is to dream, and dream big.

This is false. You are engaging in a now reductionism. It is wrong to strip consciousness down to only the now. It is now, but it's also more than now. Degrees of consciousness is not a conceptual or even a human construction, it is part of the absolute nature of consciousness. You can be profoundly awake and still realize there are higher degrees of consciousness which you do not yet have. In fact, if you don't realize this you're not very bright. Yes, imagination must be employed to go beyond the now, but that's a feature not a bug. Imagination IS how consciousness fully grasps itself, because it IS imagination. This imagination is absolute, not merely conceptual. Right now even if you are enlightened, Consciousness is hiding from you. It is hiding things you cannot even comprehend are there. If you say, "But NOW is all there is!" Well, that's how you hide it from yourself. Notice, NOW is absolute, but also NOW is always changing. You can't deny that NOW is never the same. So clearly things are hidden from you. And not just material things, but Consciousnes itself is hiding from you. For example, you don't even know what insanity consciousness is. Because you need to be sane to stay alive as a human. So you being human hides a lot from you. If you've never experienced an increase in your consciousness then I don't even know why you do spirituality. There are only two options here: either consciousness can increase or it cannot. If it cannot, then all spiritual practice and all of spirituality is bullshit. So then why are you doing and talking about it? Just go drink and party and enjoy your current level of consciousness because there's nothing more. And if you think you've maxed out your consciousness, you truly are a fool.

"Shared objective reality" is a sort of construction. However, for human purposes there is much in common between our dreams so that's what makes "objective facts" possible. How this situation looks really depends on your level of consciousness. If you have human levels of consciousness then things appear objective when they would be relative at higher levels. Objectivity depends on how deep you are dreaming, so some extent.

That's not an easy thing to understand. You should investigate that question in your direct experience with examples and contemplation. I gave somewhat of an answer here:

The things I spoke of were more profound and important than wrong intellectual beliefs. Beliefs are cheap. Seeing how wrongly your relative to a thing is deeper. Our work is not really done at the level if beliefs, that would be too shallow.

I have not changed my mind, but they work at the cost of physical and health danger.

It's good that you are thinking more seriously about this topic, because it is very tricky and most people are wrong in their understanding of it. You are inside a dream. Your dream has a certain coherence and flow to it which is beyond you ability to control or to change. Those aspects of your dream which you cannot change, we call objective truth or "reality". For example, you are dreaming that the Earth is round, and you cannot undream that. But all of that assumes your dream will continue as before. But that won't always be the case. Your dream could change and then all those objective truths are rug-pulled. And then there could be truths which hold regardless of what you're dreaming. For example, the nature of Consciousness is beyond the contents of any dream. The fact that you are in a dream, is not relative or subjective. But beware, most things which people call objective truths are not, they are opinions, beliefs, interpretations, and perspectives. And beware, people are not all dreaming the same dream. So what is objectively true in your dream may not be in another's dream. This is one of big mistakes of science: science assumes we all dream the same dream. But even furthermore, ultimately you are dreaming all other dreams and dreamers. So in this sense everything is absolutely relative to You/God. But you as a human are nowhere near this level of consciousness.

I don't see that it is sold anywhere and it requires injection?

Be careful believing what you want to hear.

Any ideas about awakening tend to be false until you have experience of many awakenings to the point where you start to understand what it is. Even after your first awakening it's easy to misunderstand it, to spin it into some relatable human thing.

Short answer is no. There is no free lunch. All these chemicals deteriorate your brain over time with lots of use. So use them sparingly. Psychedelics are not free. You are paying for it with your health. Making you grok that. Just because you have an epic loving experience of God does not mean it was healthy for your body. Don't get fooled by that. Ketamine is certainly not good for you long term.

New Age is a huge field. I wouldn't hold is so simplistically as bad or good. It's got good parts and bad parts, depending on the details and how it is done. Imagine saying science is good or bad, or medicine is good or bad? These fields have many good and bad parts. Obviously shaming yourself is going to be limited. Instead make a commitment to pursuing truth and cutting through fantasy. If you have that as your highest priority then things will sort themselves out. You don't need worry about being New Age as long as your genuine goal is truth-seeking. You will then naturally discover the limitions of whatever spiritual paradigms and fantasies. You should be doing spirituality at the level of your direct experience, not by buying into spiritual narratives. Always be asking yourself, "Is this thing grounded in my experience or is it a cool-sounding narrative that I heard from some human?" Anything can be turned into a narrative, even enlightenment.

@NoSelfSelf Your writing is so unclear that I cannot answer you properly. Write more carefully.

No you don't. Saying that Consciousness has degrees is not a model. And the fact that you cannot understand this means all your enlightenment talk is garbage. I've been so conscious that if I was any more conscious I would be dead. You have no idea what you are talking about. When I say Alien Consciousness you have zero idea what that is. No one here does.

I've met New Age mystic types who believe they can heal people when they really can't, they just created an elaborate fantasy. Maybe. Parts of it may be fantasy and parts of it may have some merit. New Age spirituality is a giant mix of fantasy with some genuine mystical states, so it's hard to sort it out.