Leo Gura

You are what you hallucinate. If you hallucinated being a sea slug, you would literally be a sea slug. Your current hallucination of being THIS human is precisely what makes you not be everything else you could be (and actually are).

@Serotoninluv You can also be conscious while sleeping. But let's start with the basics.

It's no more mystical knowledge than it is to say that Santa Claus is a fiction.

There is no such thing as a non-mystical phenomena. All phenomena are mystical. Science is playing a mind game. What it does is attach the word "material" to every single thing it sees and learns how to calculate. Before it is calculated it is called mystical superstitious nonsense. After it is calculated, it is called "material". Although the calculation never explains anything. It just allows you to manipulate reality. Notice that you can learn to juggle balls no matter what they are. You can juggle oranges, peaches, apples, tennis balls, etc. The substance of the ball is irrelevant to the juggling. Science is purely in the business of juggling. It can juggle any and all phenomena, but it never knows what the substance of the thing it's juggling is. Nor will it admit that it matters. If a ghost is photographed by a scientist today, after much resistance and make years of fighting, eventually ghosts will become reclassified as "material" things. And after a few hundred years pass, you will be thought of as crazy for doubting the existence of ghost. "Ghosts must obviously exist! It was only those fools back in the 21st century who were so closeminded as not to see them." That's what scientists of the 25th century will tell you. The distinction between science and pseudo-science is a moving goal post. Pseudo-science is just the stuff that science hasn't successfully modeled yet. So course it cannot exist. Until we model it. Then it can't not exist. 100 years ago x-rays where considered absurd psuedo-science. Today, you would be called irresponsible if you refused to get x-rayed by your dentist. Today parents are called crazy and dangerous for not injecting their children with bit of the plague (vaccines). 300 years ago, if you told a parent that you were going to inject their child with bits of the plague, they would have you arrested for attempted murder. 200 years ago doctors didn't wash their hands before operating on patients. When the first doctor discovered that washing hands reduces death rates in hospitals by like 90%, you know what happened? He was kicked out of the hospital and called a quack. His career with destroyed. Because no respectable doctor washed his hands 200 years ago. That was mystical nonsense. Magical germs that kill people? Only a fool would believe in such a thing. You know what happened when Galilio tried to give his telescope to his intelligent colleagues to look up at the planet Jupiter and count its moons? They told him that only a Devil would dare to look through such a thing and believe what he saw. And then they arrested him.

@Edvard If the truth could be given to you, it would have happened 5000 years ago and everyone would have it. No one is hiding truth from you but yourself. You must discover it all on your own. I cannot help you no matter how much I would like. The truth is incommunicable. The problem is that people assume truth is communicable. But that is another false assumption. It's as though you and I are inside a dream. I have exited the dream before so I know it is possible. But now I am here in the dream with you again. You have never exited, so you are skeptical and puzzled by the notion. I tell you that it's possible to exit the dream. You nod and say, "Okay, maybe." But you are still stuck in the dream. Knowing you can exit the dream and actually exiting the dream are two totally different things. You need to figure out a way -- on your own -- to wake up. No matter what I say to you inside the dream, it will not wake you up because everything I say is part of your dream.

If I could, I probably wouldn't tell you about it. It's hard enough getting people to buy the idea that brains don't exist The point is that you don't know what is or isn't possible unless you verify it for yourself. And if you do end up discovering something new and bold, you can be sure that one one will believe you due to the Black Hole Effect. What people are willing to believe has nothing to do with truth. That's purely a cultural norm. And culture is ALWAYS highly conservative and dogmatic. Because you never bother to derive any truth for yourself, you prefer to suck on the tit of culture. You just assume that culture will deliver truth to you on a silver platter. But that is not how truth works. So you end up having cultural myths, not truth. Experiencing Absolute Infinity is much more physically radical than transmuting water into wine.

Yes, of course. The history of science is filled with such examples. For example, the Greeks thought atoms were indivisible. So if you asked them, "Could we ever find out whether atoms were made of smaller parts?" They would have said, "Of course not! Atoms are indivisible by definition. How could you ever look inside one?" But then some clever scientists figured out a way to split atoms in a particle collider. Here's another example: the resolution of light microscopes is limited by the wave length of light. You cannot resolve down any further. I'm sure that when some scientist figured that out, he said to himself, "Well... I guess we cannot see anything below 100nm. That is the limit of microscopes." But then a century later some other clever scientist discovered that you can build a microscope using electrons instead of light waves. And so a whole new domain of visibility opened up. And so on it goes. Scientists once thought it was impossible to measure the distance to a star or galaxy. Then some other scientist discovered a way of doing just that using EM waves and Cepheid variable stars. Today, virtually all scientists assume that direct consciousness of the Absolute is impossible. And yet it obviously is because people have done it. I have done it. Scientists assume this because the materialist paradigm is blind to the possibility that being and consciousness are identical, because they assume a boundary exists between subject and object. But of course there is no such boundary. That boundary is just an materialist assumption which was never empirically derived, but just taken on blind faith. If you assume you are the Absolute, you have 100% access to it. If you assume you aren't the absolute, you're screwed. Actually, the very same force that allows you to make insights -- an instantaneous creative leap of awareness -- is the very same force that drives evolution. Observe very carefully how your mind generates insights. Every insight you have is an act of creation. There are few such books. Which is why I'm writing one. See the Metaphysics/Epistemology category of my book list. That's about as close as you'll get for now. But it's only the tip of the iceberg.

@Faceless An appearance is not a product of thought. A thought is one kind of appearance. You can stop thinking and appearances will still arise. Give it a try.

@Shanmugam There is no doubt that's the answer to the ultimate question. But also don't forget that there are other minor questions to be asked and contemplated.

@Maxx The spoon might melt in your hand

@Elisabeth This issue of ignorance still goes deeper than you presently fathom. I have barely scratched the surface of explaining the epistemic and metaphysical errors of most scientists. It's a difficult topic to talk about, because it offends the very people who need to hear it. Even philosophy of science still doesn't understand these issues. Philosophy of science has itself been corrupted by the materialist paradigm. Even Thomas Kuhn -- the philosopher & historian of science who coined the term "paradigm" -- still did not grasp the significance of what a paradigm is and how deep of a paradigm shift is possible. You can have a paradigm shift so deep that the floor beneath your feet will vanish. That is NOT understood by almost anyone. This topic is notorious tricky. It's a deception wrapped inside a deception wrapped inside a deception. But people get very offended when you question the foundations of science. Of course! Because science underpins your very sense of reality. I am not merely questioning science here. Your very life is at stake. Which is why scientists like Richard Dawkins get so heated about this issue. Your mind will conjure up every trick imaginable to keep your reality intact. Which of course means projecting criticism onto me. That's how this stuff works. BTW, I'm not saying you can't continue doing science. Just do it with an totally open mind. You'll see, your science dramatically improves. I am actually a big fan of science. Which is why I want to purify it of its erroneous metaphysical assumptions. And of course you shouldn't take what I say on faith. Contemplate all this for yourself. What is science? What is truth? etc. See, I've been contemplating the foundations of science since I was 12 years old. So to me, it's pretty easy to tell when I'm speaking with a person who has contemplated it for real, or not. I rarely find anyone who has.

@Serotoninluv The issue of what one can test, and what is the case, are two independent variables. The whole point of your job as a scientist is figuring out new clever ways of testing the untestable. Hint: the cleverness you're using to be intelligent, is the very intelligence you're testing for Just how is it that you think you are being intelligent? Randomly? Lol. That's not very intelligent of you to think. Empty space has more intelligence than every human being who's ever lived combined. After all, it did spawn you It's even generating all your scientific skepticism right this very second. Bam! Bam! Bam! Thought after intelligent thought spontaneously arising out of nothingness. One of the beauties of ditching the materialist paradigm is that intelligence is no longer confined to the brain.

@znet It would be outside the realm of human imagination.

So in other words you're no longer a serious scientist, you're a New Ager P.S. Yes, of course I was referring to the idea that mutations are random. They are not random, they are intelligent.

That's your hallucination. You speak so confidently about being fucked, yet you have no idea what you are. Talk about putting the cart before the horse.

It's been over 100 years since quantum mechanics has proven to you that that wall is made mostly out of empty space. And the little sub-atomic particles which are there are not particles at all, but clouds of potential -- fields. And what are fields? Nothing. And when you're not looking at that wall, it exists in a state of superimposition: both existing and not-existing at the same time. So even your very own materialist science has disproven you. But of course you never bothered to really contemplate your own materialist science, nor has your friend. Because you don't really about understanding reality, you are lazy and sloppy. All you care about is your survival.

@Faceless Don't confuse not knowing with Not Knowing.

Correction: How come science has NOT explained consciousness? Trying to sneak that materialist paradigm in there, eh?

@DnoReally The alternative is radical openmindedness, and developing awareness of all your metaphysical and epistemic assumptions, and then dropping them all, one by one. Once your mind is free, and you are conscious, your ability to make scientific breakthroughs will skyrocket. You will be beyond Einstein-level of consciousness. You will be able to solve problems that no other scientist knows how to solve. And in your personal life, you will be significantly happier than your typical materialist scientist, who cannot see the infinite magic of reality that's right under his nose.

Math certainly CANNOT say that! Godel's Incompleteness theorem proved that all logic and mathematics is necessarily self-contradictory. There are truths within mathematics which mathematics itself can never prove or grasp. Truth is a much stronger notion than proof. Truth necessarily always eclipses proof, because proof itself is a subset of truth. All these topics that you guys are bringing up are incredibly complex and tricky. You cannot take any of this stuff for granted. It requires decades of research to wrap your mind around all the problems plaguing fields like physics, mathematics, logic, and science. I've spent a lot energy studying these topics. I think about these topics more than I do personal development. It's mostly what I think about.

Except when you separate reality into two domains: physical vs non-physical, or science vs mysticism, that itself is a metaphysical and epistemic position which is false, since in point of fact reality is nondual. So what you will get if you do that, is erroneous science. By splitting itself off from mysticism, science actually damages itself. For example, it is a factual scientific error to say that consciousness is the product of neurons. And it's a scientific error to say that evolution is random. And it's scientific error to say that paranormal phenomena do not exist.

Yes, and a fox likes to say that he's the only one who should guard the hen-house. Mathematics is a projection of the human mind. It is impossible to do mathematics without language.

There's only one thing, really: consciousness. Are you actually being conscious while you're meditating? How conscious? If you're thinking, you're not being conscious. If you're falling asleep, you're not being conscious. If you're lost in a day dream, you're not being conscious. If you're mechanically executing a technique some guru gave you, you're not being conscious. If you're whining and bitching and moaning about having to meditate, you're not being conscious. If you're waiting for the timer to ring, you're not being conscious. If you're eagerly sitting there waiting for enlightenment to strike, you're not being conscious. If you're bored, you're not being conscious. If you're suffering and struggling and ready to quit, you're not being conscious. Just pick one technique and go with it for at least a month. Then evaluate your progress. Don't evaluate your progress daily, but monthly.

That's what I call paradigm blindness. To be inside a paradigm is to be unable to see any other valid alternative. Paradigms are self-fulfilling prophecies. They validate themselves through confirmation bias while excusing and dismissing all counter-evidence as "not real evidence." What's not understood is that one's paradigm determines what counts as "evidence". Which is why you cannot argue a Christian, or a Muslim, or an atheist out of his belief that there is a God, or there is no God. No amount of reasoning will do the trick. Because the very mechanism of thinking has been corrupted by the paradigm. It's like trying to rid your PC of a nasty virus. A really good virus will disable all the mechanisms for uprooting it. It will block access to all administrative functions, it will disable CTRL+ALT+DEL, it will disable the task manager, and it will hide itself in a dozen different places so that you can never delete it. A really clever virus will infect your system so thoroughly that you will not even know you're infected because you will have nothing to contrast it with. And a clever virus will have you get passionate about infecting others with your virus all the while having you believe that you're not really infecting them, but rather curing them of other bad infections. That's how the Devil does his work. The Devil's first move it to make himself look like an Angel. He flips the script on everything so much that evil becomes good, and good becomes evil. If you think I'm talking about somebody else -- not you -- you're kidding yourself. This mechanism of corruption is actively at work in every single human being: especially YOU! And especially scientists. The more Nobel prizes they have, the more infected they get. Welcome to the world of epistemology

But they don't understand that "reality" is a theory! "Proof" is a theory. "Science" is a theory. "TIme" is a theory. "Space" is a theory. And all theories are NOT reality! The whole problem here is that there IS an Absolute. So a "this is the best we've got" approach is not nearly good enough. And it's not the best we've got. Human beings have been conscious of the Absolute for over 5000 years. The reason scientists aren't conscious of it is because they refuse to surrender their flawed paradigm. Scientists THINK they understand that theories aren't absolute. But they don't grasp the significance of that. Take a close look at people like Richard Dawkins, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Bill Nye, Lawrence Krauss, Sean Carol, Daniel Dennett, Sam Harris. << These people claim to represent science but they have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to understanding the ultimate nature of reality. They are factually wrong. But good luck convincing them of their ignorance. The ignorance is so deep it's hard to even know where to begin curing it. It's like cancer of the entire mind. And precisely because the cancer is so total, it goes unnoticed. Every belief you have about reality is wrong. I don't think you grasp the significance of this.