Leo Gura

Past and future are concepts occurring in the now. The problem is that the ego-mind is trying to understand how/what the now is, and to do so, it creates concepts. The ego-mind is busy trying to demystify the now, but in fact, the now is mystical and it is a wrong move to try to demystify it. In an attempt to demystify it, ideas like past and future get created, which lead to a false understanding. So the counter-intuitive move to surrender to the fact that the now is literally magic, without a past or future. Notice that past and future are posited because otherwise the mind just cannot accept the raw truth that the now is here all by itself. That would be too eerie, too woo-woo for the ego-mind.

@CreamCat Ideally Green transcends and includes Orange, Blue, etc. Every stage is supposed to build on top of the ones before it. Pathology occurs when a new stage emerges and tries to suppress the lower stages. Which, of course, every stage tries to do. The key evolutionary developments of stage Green are acknowledgement of relativism, the impulse towards universal equality, and environmental consciousness. These are all good things which are necessary to soften Orange's cut-throat individualism and blind materialistic ambition. This is a much needed solution to Orange chaos. Each stage creates it own kind of chaos which the next stage then evolves to resolve. The solution to Blue chaos was Orange. The solution Orange chaos is Green. The solution to Green chaos is Yellow.

I do it late at night. But that's probably not ideal for most people. I can't do it in the morning because my nose gets clogged in the morning. Time is not the the issue, it's about doing the various sets, however long that takes. Earlier in this thread I gave you a few routine stacks, from newbie to advanced. They usually take 30m to 1h 20m, depending on how many sets you're doing.

I stopped conventional meditation. I just do Kriya instead + I randomly just sit and look around the room whenever I feel like it. After a few months of Kriya your mind should naturally start to calm down and you should start to feel like you're naturally meditating whenever you take a moment to just sit and be quiet. Meditation also becomes much more enjoyable. After Kriya, my meditation has become much more organic, less forced and artificial. I meditate when I'm taking a piss, etc. Because the yoga rewires the brain stem. It's more of a hardware fix than a software fix. It's more like a psychedelic in this regard.

Yes, that's one of the problems with his whole system. Same with Sam Harris. For JP, that comes from his Blue traditionalist Christian values. Christianity is traditionally very moralistic, which is a classic case of shooting their followers in the foot. Someone like JP cannot accept the deeper truth that all morality is a human invention and that to be truly Good you must abandon all moral ideologies. A truly conscious person does not moralize because he's conscious that evil literally does not exist and that ALL is Good so there is nothing to moralize about. Moralization is something the ego does. And you can clearly see Peterson falling into this trap with respect to the post-modernism, socialism, and stage Green as a whole. A classic Christian, stage Blue, conservative trap. The very reason that JP is fighting against post-modernism is because stage Green's relativism undermines all transitional notions of good vs evil. Which is correct! Those notions are human inventions! But JP does not want to bite that bullet and pass through post-modern nihilism to more advanced stages of morality, which are based on consciousness, not human ideas of good vs evil. JP feels that to admit to relativity is to open Pandora's box of chaos. Stage Blue fears chaos (stage Red). Which is why the subtitle of his book literally expresses his fear: But this fear must be surrendered to, not fought against. Stage Green is not chaos, it's just a new, higher kind of order. Stage Blue creates rules to keep itself from sliding into chaos. Stage Blue becomes the anal-retentive rulekeeper stereotype, which leads to all sorts of neuroses (which are well-hidden from public view through suppression). JP has created a public identity out of fighting against chaos. Which is precisely just his own shadow. The profound irony is that JP hasn't cleaned his own room. Which is why he's acting out in public. The mind is a tricky beast. Especially the mind of an intellectual. "The better the model, the bigger the problem." Everything that's happening to JP is predicted by Spiral Dynamics, if one would just bother to study it closely. When it comes to people's behaviors and ideological positions, there's little new under the sun. There's nothing original about how conservatives behave or think. It's very robotic. Predictable like clockwork. In fact, they pride themselves on that.

@NoSelfSelf Your mind is getting caught up in negative thinking. You are making the work seem worse than it actually is. You can make the process fun.

Careful with DPT. It can be very intense and horrific. Don't expect a pleasant trip with that one. I've heard one person describe it as "snorting a row of haunted houses."

No Nothing cannot be imagined. You are trying to imagine it. That's not it. The wall IS Nothing. The mind will never get this. This requires a radically altered state of consciousness. Your consciousness must dilate open. A few thousand hours of intense mediation will do it. Or some psychedelics. Reasoning it out will never work, so you might as well give that up.

Form just means every tangible object or experience. Everything you've experienced in your life, from a cat to a car to a house to an idea to an emotion, is form. And formlessness is...

@Ar_Senses Great report! Glad some folks here are willing to put in the work to get the results.

Clearly deciding what you want is half the battle to getting it. This is where visualization and honing intent comes into play.

Yes, consciousness is Nothingness. Which is why you can't grasp hold of it. The Absolute is not an experience. It is Absolute and Mooji don't matter at that point. You are Mooji talking to yourself. Mooji was pointing you to Nothingness. I am not enlightned but I have seen the Absolute many times at this point from a variety of angles, deeper than some teachers. I have seen the Heart Sutra's truth for myself, and it is true as fuck. Realizing the Heart Sutra is what you want.

@DoubleYou Form is identical to formlessness. The Heart Sutra says it perfectly. The only trouble is becoming so insanely conscious to see it. It's right there under your nose. Don't go looking elsewhere. You are inside Nothingness at all times.

Because when you finally realize it, you'll say, "OMG! It's NOTHING!!!" There are many words for it that we use: Nothingness Formless Everything The ALL Oneness Nonduality Absolute Emptiness Void Mu True Self No-self God Brahman Infinity Absolute Infinity Apeiron Etc.

How could everything be distinct from nothing? Nothing is nothing, so there is nothing to keep it from fusing with everything. No, I have not redefined the word. I am trying to show you that the distinction between something and nothing is in fact relative. The universe actually cannot tell the difference between something and nothing. Do not confuse this for word games. Something extemely profound is being pointed at here. How could it not if nothing is the same as something? You are assuming nothing and something are distinct. This is a mistake. You are writing this because nothing in the universe has ever happened. So everything happened. So here you are. Without a distinction between something and nothing you'd be dead. So it's very difficult for you to see that something is nothing as that would collapse reality and derail your entire life. No, you are not hearing what is being said. These are not word games. Nothing actually is identical to everything. Do not expect to understand this using your rational linear mind. This requires a deep enlightenment to grasp. We talking about the ultimate structure of all of existence here! Don't except this to be easy or logical. All your ideas of nothing are not nothing. The closest you can get to nothing is by looking around the room. That is actual nothing. --------- Just trust my guidance on this one guys. Otherwise you will waste years looking in the wrong direction. I am pointing you straight at nothing. But it's extremely radically and the mind doesn't want to see it. Take a psychedelic to speed up the realization. This one's a doozy and will take you 20 years to realize sober.

Something didn't emerge out of nothing. Rather, something and nothing are identical and indistinguishable. 0 vs 1 is a distinction or a difference you're latching onto. Consider the possibility that there is no difference between 0 and 1. Or in other words, there is only a difference between 0 and 1 if you say that there is, otherwise there isn't. Pause, look around the room, and notice that everything you see is nothing. Your entire life has been nothing, only you had mistaken it for something. All this time your mistake has been thinking that everything around you is something when it is in fact nothing. Nothing looks precisely like the "physical universe". Nothing is NOT an empty hole like you have always imagined. Ta-da!

Bring God into your own life first, then you will understand. There is no greater source of evil in the world than those who try to bring God into the lives of others without first succeeding in bringing God into their own life. God unrealized is the devil.

@iamme The context of this thread is asking about the absolute nature of reality. So I responded appropriately. If we were talking about cheeseburgers, I would not have gone into absolute explanations.

Locking for egoic bastardization of spirituality.

"Physical" itself is a hollow, relative term. Really contemplate: What does "physical" even mean? Physical vs non-physical is a conceptual distinction. Even real vs unreal is a conceptual distinction. All distinctions are relative, and not the Absolute. But it gets even weirder! Even the distinction between relative vs absolute is itself a conceptual distinction! Such that there can be no difference between something and nothing, form and formlessness, reality and illusion, enlightenment and non-enlightenment.

This shows that you do NOT know what "ALL THERE IS" really means. ALL THERE IS.... Think about that. That's everything! So what the hell are you talking about? What is more than ALL? ALL is an absolute. "More" is a relative term which does not apply to the ALL. ALL includes all other realities already. If you can think of something beyond the ALL, then your notion of the ALL wasn't actually the ALL.

@Strikr God is a Christian assumption? Lol Spiral Dynamics describes JP and his fans perfectly.

@RendHeaven It's an odd mix of Blue/Orange. On the one hand he rails against collectivism, on the other hand he is against porn, for traditionalist values, and for sexual Marxism.

Tone is the least of JP problems. The deep structural issue is that he is programming his fans with stage Blue mentality, against Green. It stifles movement up the Spiral, which is what's necessary for people to find God. So he's shooting his own fans in the foot.

If someone hits a castle made out of Legos with a hammer, the castle will break. So will your sense of self & life. What remains is no-self. You only exist as an idea. This idea will die and all that will remain is the universe. With a broken brain, you will not longer to able to say or think, "This is my life". And thus "you" will cease to exist as an ego. Sights, sounds, and feelings could still arise, but there would be nothing claiming ownership of them. No-self = True Self Where you go is, you die. You only exist now as an idea.