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"Hi, I'll have a Denver omelet. Extra mushrooms." P.S. Thanks for the links.

Of course, of course. Psychedelics help you discover yourself. And since the Self is all that exists, through that you can discover anything of importance.

@purerogue That's cause Sadhguru's a good guru. Which is precisely why he's so dangerous for his followers. No matter how much he tells them not to worship him, that will only make them worship him more. It's like telling a girl you don't like her. She will only get more attracted. And if you tell a girl "I'm never having sex with you." She will only want to have sex with you all the more. Reverse psychology 101

@CreamCat Hitler in chilling in heaven Joke's on you for judging him.

@CreamCat When you publicly execute a few grunts at random, the rest of the army falls in line. Life suddenly feels so fresh Not only do you take this forum for granted, you take your life for granted.

I mean abolishing private property in practice. So for example, if you start a business, the government will own it. If you buy a house, your local town/village will own a majority stake in it. That's true communism. And no one is seriously advocating for it.

Perception, thought, and creation are not two. The universe is hell for devils because of how they perceive and how they think -- which is their creation. How you think about reality affects reality directly. By thinking of the world as a place where you exist, where others can harm you, and where one day you will die, you literally create your own hell.

You don't appreciate what you got until you lose it Maybe this calls for a round of bannings.

@mandyjw You'll need a very sick imagination to imagine what the last 2019 years would have been like without the molifying influence of Christianity and Islam. The leap from Stage Red to Blue was a major leap in human evolution. The mistake is comparing to some hippie ideal spirituality, which is stage Green, which never existed until 100 years ago, and only on the shoulders of Blue.

If anyone can find some links to the donation campaigns in Oregon and California, please post them here. Then I will post them on my blog for all to see. I wish I had known about this Denver campaign earlier so I could promote it.

Jesus did not leave a shitstorm. He spread the word about God as best as he could in his era. You have to remember that people were basically barbarians and slaves back then. So for them, Christianity was cutting edge high tech stuff, like the iPhone of their time. Remember that 99% of people could not read back then. And there were no books! Also, stop taking the word "devil" literally. These are nuanced teachings which require a highly intuitive and figurative mind to properly decipher.

See, this is what I mean by combining spirituality and politics. This is how society self-actualizes at the collective level. Conscious and engaged citizenry produces a better society. Maybe it's time to donate some coin to the Oregon campaign. They have a good shot at passing it with all those hippie Oregonians.

Yes, but Green is still not thinking about it systemically. Green is mostly doing it from her heart. That's all great, but it is not the kind of full-bore systemic thinking I described. Green is still looking at the situation from a personal agenda level, it just so happens that saving the Earth is now part of her personal agenda. Yellow and above is more impersonal. And yet still very personal! Tier 2 is more detached.

I don't hate Orange. It's just limited. BTW, I'm no fan of dogmatic Muslims. They can be extremely annoying. Blindly being right doesn't count for much. An atheist is still more developed than a Blue Muslim. We need more Green Muslims.

Hazzah! If true then domino #1 has fallen.

@kieranperez A high quality guru will not let you fawn over them. It is critical in this work to stand on your own two feet. You must become totally self-guiding in the end, otherwise you have not realized your full Godhood. As God you can have no one to hold your hand. You must become your own authority. For this reason I do not agree with the path of devotion. To me it is not the highest path. It still has that subtle duality of me vs my guru. That must collapse. There is only one thing in the universe: YOU! It feels very good to not need any gurus. You take full ownership of your creation. Of course you can still learn from people. I learn from 100s of sources. I just keep a professional distance. I don't try to crawl up their holy ass hole.

I don't like his approach. It's far too simplistic, black and white, and non-integral. It does not recognize that people are at very different stages of development. For a stage Red person, belief in Christ can be a positive life transforming event which moves him up to Blue, and it is legit spirituality, just not the highest level of nondual awakening. Nor do I think he has realized the deepest level of awakening. Mindlessly destroying all beliefs not going to cut it. I would much rather you follow Sadhguru than that guy.

Just consider this: if humanity does not take climate change seriously over the next 20 years, there will be massive Purple, Red, and Blue casualities. Tens of millions of people will die, not to mention the irreversible environmental damage. Meanwhile JP is bitching about post-modernism. It's a total red herring. We got serious issues to deal with.

How many times do I have to say that LP is not a selfish thing, it is the highest form of love and service to the world! You are turning a beautiful thing into a tool of the devil. You must align your purpose with the good of the world. Becoming a politician is not at all necessary to help the world. There are literally millions of opportunities to help the world every year. You just have to open your eyes and see how everything is interconnected.

God created relationship so that the depth of your love could really be put to the test. It's easy to love the world when you're sitting alone in a cave because there are no fools or devils to deal with. Try being enlightened while running for president. Now there's a real test of your consciousness! Osho was an enlightened master, but his community was full of devilry.

Just notice how much people LOVE to disagree about nonduality. "Bro, my nonduality is twice as big as your nonduality." "Nah, bro. My nonduality is nonduality times infinity." "Shut up bro, my nonduality is nonduality times infinity to infinity." "Bro, that's not nonduality, that's just your mystical experience. Who's the one aware of your nonduality?"

Sure, that's a possible path. But what I teach with Actualized.org is a DIY approach to life and spirituality. Be your own guru sorta thing. That's my bias. Do whatever you want. You will anyway.

We have rules on this sub-forum about Nonduality Wars.

Everyone who is not conscious of what reality is, who he is, what God is, and how the mind works, is a devil. As long as you realize the above, hold whatever opinions you want. There are also many degrees of devilry. So it's not all the same. Most people are minor devils. A few are big fat devils, like Trump. When people have a big following, like JP, they will get more push back for their devilry because it has the potential to create many minor devils out of the sheep. The converse is also true. Angels who gather big followings will also get enormous push back because they will disturb the devil's plans. A big angel is of greater threat to society than the biggest fattest devils. Devils can mostly tolerate their own. What they cannot tolerate is brightly glowing angels.

@NoSelfSelf You are missing that you are member of society whether you like it or not, whether you're enlightened or not. Society can only function when its citizens are well-educated and conscious. If the most conscious people stick their head in the sand and only focus on making their own personal lives work consciously, then society will be seized by the most unconscious right-wing nationalist tyrants. That's how Hitler and WWII happens. As a human being you have to take responsibility for your role within a collective. Personal enlightenment is good but not good enough! Which is why enlightened masters become Bodhisattvas, to help elevate the rest of mankind. They are playing a much bigger game than their own personal enlightenment. Personal enlightenment is a cake walk compared to enlightening society. If you are the whole universe, then you are also society. You cannot treat yourself as only an individual unit, only a personal human life. You are also the collective! The life of all beings is your responsibility. You are God after all. How can you neglect your creation? Are you really going to sit by and watch devilry prevail? No! You cannot. It is actually impossible. Love and consciousness will move you to towards the highest Good. To be fully conscious is to take responsibility for EVERYTHING to the point where you are willing to lay your life down for the greater Good. That is literally God's work. God did not design this wondrous creation through negligence or selfishness.