Leo Gura

Just sit still. And don't go into it expecting sobbing and rage. That becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Expect good things. Expect answers to your deepest questions.

That's your strawman of what they say. They never actually say 90%. More like 25%. Which is about right. Yes, they demonize the right too much sometimes. How else could Green be? Racism is a serious issue which the country has not yet fully addressed. There's a lot of denial going around about it still. People like to think they are more developed than they actually are.

Lol Society is 50 years out from mastering the basics of what they talk about, and you want something higher? A Yellow person has better things to do than criticizing TYT and Majority Report.

Your issue is more basic than meditation. Meditation is not going to fix your neediness because you're not at a level of development yet where you can even take meditation seriously. The advice for you is: work on your isolation, learn to socialize, build social skills, develop friends, develop dating skills, have sex, and THEN meditation will help you reach higher levels. Meditation is not a shortcut for avoiding learning basic survival skills like dating, making money, proper diet, etc. Meditation is a rather advanced skill for people who have already become proficient at survival and want to reach the next level. Once you've had a bunch of sex and made a bunch of money, then you ask, "Okay, what's next?" That's where meditation starts to look appealing. Don't assume that. Most people here don't meditate or meditate so ineffectively that they might as well be watching TV. Serious meditation is a rare skill that very few people practice. And meditation takes years to pay off.

@JunkyJu Why would it not be worth it? Have you not read some life changing DMT trip reports?

If you put a stage Orange person in a Green environment, they are likely to not fit in and have falling out. Which is what happened. Spiral Dynamics is not so simplistic as to say that if you put an Orange person into a higher environment he will automatically grow into it. Many people will have a backlash and entrench themselves in their old stage. If TYT hired a white supremacist, he would probably quit in short order and start his own white supremacy YT channel.

I think it describes his behavior very well. Since a solid Orange person is very much driven by personal success and profit, it makes a lot of sense that Rubin would dump TYT and its values to start his own show and make a big name for himself speaking out against liberals as a gay dude. It seems that Rubin's work at TYT was not based on deeply held Green values but a desire to make it in online media. Which is a very Orange thing. And that's exactly why he didn't fit in there and why he's doing his current show. He wasn't developed enough to last at TYT. This is easily evidenced by his last of understanding of Green values and his libertarianism.

Yellow? Ha! He's stuck in Orange with a big Green shadow. He didn't see the limits of Green. Just as he started getting exposed to Green he couldn't handle it and doubled-down on Orange. He is criticizing Green from below, not above.

Infinite Love There is no hell outside your selfish perception.

Lol, good luck with that. Every story you construct will come crashing down on your head one day, because you are building castles in the sky. And to defend those stories you will of course become a devil. Because the truth is, they are all fictions you've invented to suit your ego's survival.

Well, that's not gonna happen. Even the idea of a safe space is already ridiculed and demonized by the right-wing. And they are certainly incapable of non-judgment and non-criticism. As are most left-wingers. If we could get everyone to agree to a safe space and non-judgment, we would already have solved 90% of the worlds problems. Yup, I get that too. Listening to aggressive ignorance really tests one's patience and compassion. That's the challenge of our work. How do you deal with people who are so closedminded and ignorant that they might be willing to kill you for speaking truth? Even Jesus couldn't solve that problem.

Of course, otherwise it would have been resolved a thousand years ago. These are profound existential challenges of a cosmic order requiring millions of deaths to understand and transcend. This is life and death stuff we're dealing with. It doesn't get any more serious than this. And yet ironically it's all a joke in the end. We (God) are stuck in an existential bind of infinite proportion.

Yes, which is why I said serious training of consciousness is necessary.

We can always put your beliefs to the test with a hammer The hammer will win.

Suffering sits deeper than belief. When the suffering gets strong enough, all your pretty beliefs will fly out the window. Then only consciousness can prevail. And even that will flag and wane for most people. Only training of consciousness can overcome that.

Of course that is a misuse of psychedelics. I don't have time to police every foolish thing people decide to do on this forum. Some guy PMed me the other day that he was taking 10 armodafil pills per day. People do silly things despite what I say. I'm not creative enough to imagine all the ways people abuse my teachings. Something so foolish never even occurred to me.

The point is precisely that if you were conscious that suffering is imaginary, it would stop being painful. But you're not conscious of that, so it is still painful for you. There is a big difference between believing that suffering is imaginary vs actually being conscious of it at the moment of the torture. This work is not done at the level of belief. So you're right in that there is no point in believing that reality is imaginary. But you're wrong in that that's not what I'm suggesting you to do. I'm suggesting you to become CONSCIOUS of it. Which is a totally different thing. You are not anywhere near being conscious of it yet. This seems like a word game because for you it IS only a word game. But I am telling you there is something beyond the word game which you are not yet aware of. If you ever go beyond the word game, that's where you'll feel the difference. Imagine becoming so conscious that you can no longer be physically killed. That's what we're talking about here. Obviously this cannot happen as a matter of belief. You must actually become physically unkillable. How is such a thing possible? Well, if you knew how, you'd already be immortal. So of course it won't make much sense from your current vantage point. You have to be willing to go radically outside the box of what you consider reality to be. You have to appreciate that your ego will try to keep all of these teachings safely at the level of word games. Because then the ego is never threatened. The challenge in this work is to make sure you're actually doing the work, not just thinking about it. Thinking about doing the work is not the same as doing the work. Talking about enlightenment is not enlightenment. Thinking about reality being an illusion is not the same as experiencing it as such in every moment. It is the difference between talking about having a million dollars vs actually having one million in cash in your closet.

What I wrote will apply regardless of whether you take a masculine or feminine approach. Which approach you take it up to you. My style is my style. You don't have to like it or follow it. No You are confusing two things: truth and what your ego wants. Spirituality in its purest form means more truth, whatever that entails. It might entail an early death (as in the case of Jesus) or a long life (as in the case of The Buddha). But truth is truth regardless of its consequences on the ego. The point is not that spirituality ultimately leads to less stability, the opposite is the case if you do it right. The problem is that there are many traps, many ways to screw it up along the way. And even if you tell people about all the traps, they will still not listen and fall into them. But also don't forget the many dangers of not doing this work. It's not as though your life will go smoothly if you avoid this work. The opposite is the case.

I didn't particularly list my stages in order. They can happen in any order -- whichever resonates with you.

Buckle in, because your work has only just begun. You are like at page 2 of a 10,000 page book thinking you're close to the end. The work is far deeper than it is ever possible to communicate. Seems like you're taking too much too fast and have more basic personal development work to do. All of this is fine, just pace yourself better.

The topics we deal with here are inherently dangerous and could not be otherwise since they involve undoing and transcending survival. Spirituality is very dangerous to the ego-mind. These dangers are not merely perceptual, they are also "actual", in the sense of physical danger. You can't do serious spiritual work and also complain, "But this can be dangerous". Of course! If it wasn't dangerous it wouldn't be worth doing. The whole point is that its dangerous and therefore rarely done well. This works requires enormous nuance, care, and intelligence. These are structural meta-qualities which cannot ever be codified in the form of content. Which means, no matter how many times a teacher says to be nuanced, careful, and intelligent, it will not help someone who is sloppy, careless, and ignorant. You cannot make a person intelligent by telling them to be intelligent. If things were so easy we wouldn't be here struggling with consciousness. The danger of the work is exactly what makes it so appealing. There are stakes. Much like life. Otherwise it would just be armchair philosophy with no transformative power. Changing your life comes at a cost. You might change it for the worse.

Like I said, set priorities and pace things out in stages. If you pace things well, then yes. You need to think 10 years ahead. But if you just randomly try to do multiple things at once you'll probably not get anywhere on either front. Mastering a career or art takes so much work, dedication, and attention that you need to have a clear, singular vision for what you're trying to achieve. Then hit it every day for 5-10 years relentlessly. This is discussed in detail in my Life Purpose Course.

The Absolute is that and everything else. Anything that is -- and in any way that it is or could be -- is the Absolute. Be careful not to think that a colorful visual field is somehow not the Absolute. That's your mistake right there. Instead, open yourself to embracing it and loving it as one facet of what you are. The point of all this work is to transcend fear, replacing it with love.

@Justine There are an infinite number of different states of consciousness. So what? You can explore them forever.

That and a hundred other things. Your entire sense of self, your entire psyche is involved. Everything your psyche fears, hates, denies, desires, and worries about it is involved. The details aren't really important. It's just the sum total of all your attachments and impurities as an ego-mind.